Memphis lost by 15 to Marshall

#26
#26
I disagree, I want them in the NCAA tournament. I want Belmont and oakland in (which should happen). This just makes are bad losses and weaker wins look better if those teams do well.
Charleston... well there's no hope there.
 
#27
#27
You guys are so nice. Some of the people in this thread really give your fanbase a bad reputation though. Such is life
 
#28
#28
Not going to root for them or anything, but I don't hate U of M at all.

Ut football/Memphis basketball fans I have a huge problem with.
 
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#29
SGMVols said:
Truth. The only Memphis fans I've ever met in my life were UT students from Shelby County. It is sad though that every time we play Memphis at home, about 1/10 of the UT student section is decked out in Tiger High blue.
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There's a lot of them west of the river.
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Memphis being a better b-ball program than Tennessee is objectively debatable. Basically, we are not nearly as far behind as Memphis fans believe and honestly we may not be behind at all except postseason history. First of all, Tennessee leads the overall series with Memphis 13-7. Second, if Memphis does not make the tournament this year both programs will have made the NCAA tournament 19 times (Memphis can claim 21, but two of those years have been erased from the records due to major NCAA violations, so they also have 19). Memphis has 11 outright conference championships in the extremely competive MVC, Metro and Conference USA basketball conferences, we have 9 outright conference championships in the SEC, which features the most dominant program in the history of college basketball (Kentucky). Tennessee has 13 total SEC championships. Third, Tennessee had to play in a conference with Kentucky which has the best program in the history of college basketball. The tournament did not expand to over 32 teams until 1975 and only 1 team per conference was allowed in the NCAA's, so it was very hard for UT teams to get in the tournament after playing the most successful program in the middle of their heyday. For example as soon as the tournament was expanded in 1975, Tennessee made the tournament in 76-77, 79-83, so 7/8 years immedaitely after expansion. Imagine how many tournaments we would have made pre-1975 if the tournament was expanded to 48 teams. Memphis has never had to compete with a conference opponent like Kentucky or Arkansas, so it has been much easier for them to make the tournament. Finally, check the list below for the most winningest programs in college basketball history. List of teams with the most victories in NCAA Division I men's college basketball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . Tennessee is #40 at over 1470 wins and Memphis is no where to be found, although I believe they are within 50 wins of us. Also, I know UT's program was around 10-11 years before Memphis, so I understand we have played more games, but we only averaged 10-15 games a year and didn't win a lot in that time period, which is understandable for any new program.

Go Vols, we win again.
 
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atxvol2010 said:
Memphis being a better b-ball program than Tennessee is objectively debatable. Basically, we are not nearly as far behind as Memphis fans believe and honestly we may not be behind at all except postseason history. First of all, Tennessee leads the overall series with Memphis 13-7. Second, if Memphis does not make the tournament this year both programs will have made the NCAA tournament 19 times (Memphis can claim 21, but two of those years have been erased from the records due to major NCAA violations, so they also have 19). Memphis has 11 outright conference championships in the extremely competive MVC, Metro and Conference USA basketball conferences, we have 9 outright conference championships in the SEC, which features the most dominant program in the history of college basketball (Kentucky). Tennessee has 13 total SEC championships. Third, Tennessee had to play in a conference with Kentucky which has the best program in the history of college basketball. The tournament did not expand to over 32 teams until 1975 and only 1 team per conference was allowed in the NCAA's, so it was very hard for UT teams to get in the tournament after playing the most successful program in the middle of their heyday. For example as soon as the tournament was expanded in 1975, Tennessee made the tournament in 76-77, 79-83, so 7/8 years immedaitely after expansion. Imagine how many tournaments we would have made pre-1975 if the tournament was expanded to 48 teams. Memphis has never had to compete with a conference opponent like Kentucky or Arkansas, so it has been much easier for them to make the tournament. Finally, check the list below for the most winningest programs in college basketball history. List of teams with the most victories in NCAA Division I men's college basketball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . Tennessee is #40 at over 1470 wins and Memphis is no where to be found, although I believe they are within 50 wins of us.

Go Vols, we win again.
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Yep, the truth is they arent a great basketball school like they think. Its just their best sport. They only had a few good teams here and there until Cal came. Cal coming to Memphis made them better than they actually are. A coach like Cal comin will never happen again, they were only good because of Cal not because they are memphis. We have hardly cared about b-ball till recently and we are already better and it will soon be far and away better. We have won 4of5 and 9 out of last 12, which covers the Cal years.
 
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#32
PMC2726 said:
:ermm: You should spend your time worrying about UT -- as bad as Memphis is this year, UT may have to play them in the NIT.

And you absolutely can take comfort in a down year from a rival team. But, I think you are the only one with delusions of grandeur. I'll take Memphis's basketball history over UT's any day as would anyone else who knows a lick about college basketball. You obviously lack the objectivity, maturity, or historical knowledge (I won't say "age", b/c that upsets younger folks on here that strive to know the history, and good for them:good!:) to know that UT's basketball history doesn't even come close to touching Memphis's.
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:no:

Wow, how can you be so uninformed?
 
#33
#33
Three Final Fours and Two Title games? You have never made it past the Elite Eight and didnt get there until last year for the first time. Wow
 
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homefry20 said:
Three Final Fours and Two Title games? You have never made it past the Elite Eight and didnt get there until last year for the first time. Wow
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Actually that would be 1 final four and 1 title game. The 1985 and 2008 seasons don't count. As a reminder, you guys had someone take a top 5 draft picks SAT test to make him eligible in 2008, so EVERY SINGLE GAME YOU PLAYED THAT SEASON HAS BEEN DELETED FROM THE RECORDS and rightfully should be. Also, 1985 doesn't count, major NCAA violations prevented that teams tournament run from counting as well. If you don't believe me, you may want to check Wikipedia or the NCAA's rulling as a reminder. Memphis Tigers men's basketball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A teams NCAA tournament success isn't the only historical factor you need to look at in measuring a team's basketball success and comparing their success to other programs. 13-7 UT's all-time record over Memphis, Vols top 40 all time winningest program, Memphis over 50 games behind UT. I would say the programs are equal.
 
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homefry20 said:
You guys are so nice. Some of the people in this thread really give your fanbase a bad reputation though. Such is life
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I picked your avatar because that's the way I feel about Memphis State and most of it's fans. It's appropriate. Your welcome.:hi:
 
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PMC2726 said:
You mean you loath all things Memphis, except their recruits. Did you loathe Dane Bradshaw? Way to think your post through.
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Yes I hate Dane Bradshaw, Justin Timberlake, Elvis, they all piss me off. No really man, are you retarded? I am talking about the U of M and some of their fans. I refer to Bammers as toothless rednecks, but I believe most have teeth. Its a blog. Stop being so damn sensitive. You have more anger than me apparently. Did you surf all day to find someone that you don't agree with just so you would have something to say?:crazy:
 
#40
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cmelton7 said:
Wow. Can't a guy take a little comfort in the misfortune of a fan base that is filled with dillusions of their role? Memphis is no UT, but they have fans( Fred Smith, crack heads, and homeless people) that think differently.
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Unfortunately crack heads and homelessness is prevalent in all major cities including Knoxville. Keep in mind A LOT of white people rich and poor are hooked on crack. Just look for the late night traffic and eyes set in the back of their heads.
 
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atxvol2010 said:
Actually that would be 1 final four and 1 title game. The 1985 and 2008 seasons don't count. As a reminder, you guys had someone take a top 5 draft picks SAT test to make him eligible in 2008, so EVERY SINGLE GAME YOU PLAYED THAT SEASON HAS BEEN DELETED FROM THE RECORDS and rightfully should be. Also, 1985 doesn't count, major NCAA violations prevented that teams tournament run from counting as well. If you don't believe me, you may want to check Wikipedia or the NCAA's rulling as a reminder. Memphis Tigers men's basketball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A teams NCAA tournament success isn't the only historical factor you need to look at in measuring a team's basketball success and comparing their success to other programs. 13-7 UT's all-time record over Memphis, Vols top 40 all time winningest program, Memphis over 50 games behind UT. I would say the programs are equal.
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Whatshould we factor in then? Conference Titles? Wins per season?

Also, no one took Derrick Rose's test. Maybe if you spent some more time on ncaa.org instead of wikipedia where everyone can edit the page, then you would know this. His eligibility was voided because they invalidated the test after the fact. The test was invalidated because he failed to reply to letters sent to his home (in chicago) in december while he was in school at Memphis.

The 1985 season was crooked and quite hilariously indeed however, it happened.

I also love how you use an internet website that allows anyone to edit its contents as one of your "sources" of information.
 
#42
#42
bamasucks76 said:
Yep, the truth is they arent a great basketball school like they think. Its just their best sport. They only had a few good teams here and there until Cal came. Cal coming to Memphis made them better than they actually are. A coach like Cal comin will never happen again, they were only good because of Cal not because they are memphis. We have hardly cared about b-ball till recently and we are already better and it will soon be far and away better. We have won 4of5 and 9 out of last 12, which covers the Cal years.
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3 Final Fours in 3 different decades. Multiple Sweet 16s in each of the 80s, 90s, and 2000s. 4 additional Elite 8s since 1990. Three other coaches not named Calipari, have taken the Tigers to the Elite 8 or further.

Memphis has 50 fewer wins than UT, even though we have been playing basketball 10 years less.

I believe Memphis has more tournament game WINS than UT has tournament games PLAYED. Also, vacated doesn't mean it didn't happen.
 
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atxvol2010 said:
Memphis being a better b-ball program than Tennessee is objectively debatable. Basically, we are not nearly as far behind as Memphis fans believe and honestly we may not be behind at all except postseason history. First of all, Tennessee leads the overall series with Memphis 13-7. Second, if Memphis does not make the tournament this year both programs will have made the NCAA tournament 19 times (Memphis can claim 21, but two of those years have been erased from the records due to major NCAA violations, so they also have 19). Memphis has 11 outright conference championships in the extremely competive MVC, Metro and Conference USA basketball conferences, we have 9 outright conference championships in the SEC, which features the most dominant program in the history of college basketball (Kentucky). Tennessee has 13 total SEC championships. Third, Tennessee had to play in a conference with Kentucky which has the best program in the history of college basketball. The tournament did not expand to over 32 teams until 1975 and only 1 team per conference was allowed in the NCAA's, so it was very hard for UT teams to get in the tournament after playing the most successful program in the middle of their heyday. For example as soon as the tournament was expanded in 1975, Tennessee made the tournament in 76-77, 79-83, so 7/8 years immedaitely after expansion. Imagine how many tournaments we would have made pre-1975 if the tournament was expanded to 48 teams. Memphis has never had to compete with a conference opponent like Kentucky or Arkansas, so it has been much easier for them to make the tournament. Finally, check the list below for the most winningest programs in college basketball history. List of teams with the most victories in NCAA Division I men's college basketball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . Tennessee is #40 at over 1470 wins and Memphis is no where to be found, although I believe they are within 50 wins of us. Also, I know UT's program was around 10-11 years before Memphis, so I understand we have played more games, but we only averaged 10-15 games a year and didn't win a lot in that time period, which is understandable for any new program.

Go Vols, we win again.
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You are absolutely right. Competing against a 2 time National Champion Louisville back in the 1980s Metro Conference days was a cake walk. You remember that time when Kentucky was completely irrelevant don't you? Cincinatti, Louisville, Depaul, and Marquette in the 90s were all cupcakes, also.
 
#45
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Vacate in this sense means "to depart from and give up," because what your program did was cheat, so all of your memories from the 1985 (tournament) and 2008 (entire) season did not count. Also, that would mean you only have 1 final four in 1 decade so when reality hits let me know because obviously Memphis fans don't understand THOSE SEASONS DON'T COUNT AND WILL NEVER COUNT.

Comparing Kentucky to Louisville is like comparing Meghan Fox to Oprah Winfrey. Kentucky is the sexier choice with 7 national championships, over 2000 wins and #1 overall program, compared to Louisville 2 time national championship #19 overall program. Kentucky is 27-14 all time against Louisville. Whose the better program?
Marquette made 3 tournament's in the 80's and only 2 tournament's in the 90's, so they were a medicore program. Arkansas was better than ANY team in your leagues in the 80's and 90's. Arkansas and Alabama are stronger programs than DePaul and Marquette, but Cincy is better than all of them, so your right about that.

Guys this is debatable like it or not. You guys have more postseason success but the NCAA tournaments will be tied after this year, we have you in the overall series and more ovearall wins. I give you the edge but the Vols some respect.
 
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atxvol2010 said:
Vacate in this sense means "to depart from and give up," because what your program did was cheat, so all of your memories from the 1985 (tournament) and 2008 (entire) season did not count. Also, that would mean you only have 1 final four in 1 decade so when reality hits let me know because obviously Memphis fans don't understand THOSE SEASONS DON'T COUNT AND WILL NEVER COUNT.

Comparing Kentucky to Louisville is like comparing Meghan Fox to Oprah Winfrey. Kentucky is the sexier choice with 7 national championships, over 2000 wins and #1 overall program, compared to Louisville 2 time national championship #19 overall program. Kentucky is 27-14 all time against Louisville. Whose the better program?
Marquette made 3 tournament's in the 80's and only 2 tournament's in the 90's, so they were a medicore program. Arkansas was better than ANY team in your leagues in the 80's and 90's. Arkansas and Alabama are stronger programs than DePaul and Marquette, but Cincy is better than all of them, so your right about that.

Guys this is debatable like it or not. You guys have more postseason success but the NCAA tournaments will be tied after this year, we have you in the overall series and more ovearall wins. I give you the edge but the Vols some respect.
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No doubt UK has more success than Louisville. However, the poster stated that Memphis has never had tough competition that rivals that of UTK's dealing with UK. In the 1980s, Louisville won 2 national titles and went to 2 other Final fours. It was the glory days of U of L ball when they were the premier team in the Commonwealth, not UK.

Arkansas was not a conference opponent for UT until 1992, so it's not like UTK has been playing them for 40 years. Memphis record against the Hogs during the "Nolan Years" was 5-8, including 1-1 in 2 epic Sweet 16 games (92 and 95).

Marquette wasn't a conference opponent until the mid 90s and were pretty strong late 90s, early 2000s when a certain guy named Wade led them to the Final Four. When was Alabama's last Final four?
 
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#48
Being from Memphis, and having to hear a bunch of smack talk from their fans, when they have no right to open their mouths, yes i do enjoy watching memphis suffer. The stepchild needs to learn its place, but alas they will continue im sure. too dumb to know how bad their team is
 
#49
#49
volcrazy333 said:
Being from Memphis, and having to hear a bunch of smack talk from their fans, when they have no right to open their mouths, yes i do enjoy watching memphis suffer. The stepchild needs to learn its place, but alas they will continue im sure. too dumb to know how bad their team is
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You know what they say about opinions, everyone has one. Facts are a whole lot more fun:


Memphis

1973 NCAA runner up
1982-84 Sweet 16
1985 Final Four*
1992 Elite 8
1995 Sweet 16
2005-2007 Elite 8
2008 Runner Up*
2009 Sweet 16

UTK

1967 Sweet 16
1981 Sweet 16
2000 Sweet 16
2007-2008 Sweet 16
2010 Elite 8

Even with the vacated Final Fours, Memphis has a far superior NCAA success over the same time period. Question is, if Memphis fans have nothing to talk about, what the hell are UTK fans crowing about?
 
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CALISKING said:
You know what they say about opinions, everyone has one. Facts are a whole lot more fun:


Memphis

1973 NCAA runner up
1982-84 Sweet 16
1985 Final Four*
1992 Elite 8
1995 Sweet 16
2005-2007 Elite 8
2008 Runner Up*
2009 Sweet 16

UTK

1967 Sweet 16
1981 Sweet 16
2000 Sweet 16
2007-2008 Sweet 16
2010 Elite 8

Even with the vacated Final Fours, Memphis has a far superior NCAA success over the same time period. Question is, if Memphis fans have nothing to talk about, what the hell are UTK fans crowing about?
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No UT fan that has a clue is going to dispute that Memphis has had far greater success in the tourney than we have. However, the fact remains that your team is currently a train wreck, and many of us enjoy watching it.
 
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