Michigan City Bans LGBTQ Pride Flag

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That may have been what it started out to be, but not now. It's turned into a nasty political machine and that's trying to manufacture acceptance by force. It's not going to work and you're already seeing a backlash.
It stopped being about acceptance over a decade ago. It's purely a weapon/marketing ploy at this stage.

Most actual gay people probably ought to find it repulsive.

EDIT: as a note that's only somewhat relevant, the overwhelming majority of champagne socialists (see: the whacko wealth hoarders that have shown up in this thread as examples) have basically zero contact with any community they claim they're "prideful" for, and yet feel the obligation to speak as if they know all of the ins-and-outs of each of those communities. My favorites are watching them talk about the plight of black folks while being the first ones to literally never visit black communities and refusing to do any kind of actual meaningful work for those communities. They don't even like getting out and listening to people!
 
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Confusing times. Can’t come across as xenophobic and can’t come across as being silent.
That's precisely why you force these goobers to put their oppression rankings into words. The hilarity of it is only topped by the meltdown when you point out how racist they are when naming their favorite "socialist" countries.
 
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When you've been ridiculed, repressed, and disparaged for an a priori quality like your sexuality, it's different than being straight. Pride's about acceptance.

If you think equality is already achieved, look no further than all the prejudiced hatred exhibited on this forum.
If a private individual's feeling about others is the metric for equality, then there will never be any equality (or other cultural shifts). And, I don't think changing how others think is a reasonable objective since it is impossible to accomplish. Equality has to be measured in the legal and public policy arena. That is really the only area to reasonably exert control.
 
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That may have been what it started out to be, but not now. It's turned into a nasty political machine that's trying to manufacture acceptance by force. It's not going to work and you're already seeing a backlash.

My issue with this argument is the incessant lumping it requires.

I have friends who are participating in Pride month. None of them support GRS for minors, grooming, or any of this nonsense being peddled as the norm within it.

It's intellectually lazy.
 
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If a private individual's feeling about others is the metric for equality, then there will never be any equality (or other cultural shifts). And, I don't think changing how others think is a reasonable objective since it is impossible to accomplish. Equality has to be measured in the legal and public policy arena. That is really the only area to reasonably exert control.

You're not wrong.
 
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Again, if they want to be treated just like everyone else, maybe not feel the need to call it to attention? I don't recall having a hetero pride month or people parading over the fact that they're straight. We certainly don't have a hetero flag. We just go about our daily lives and don't concern ourselves with the whole world knowing which side of the fence we're on.

A co-worker of mine is gay and he H A T E S pride month with a passion! He thinks it's a stupid concept (his own words) and he hates how the LGBT community is weaponizing it to coerce businesses into publicly supporting it, otherwise being labeled as bigoted and homophobic.

You've never been deprived of rights because of your sexuality, ya maroon.
 
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I see you're not so open minded about people with traditional values. I'm sure you think the folks wearing a MAGA hat on your golf course are a POS...they're thinking the same about you with a Rainbow Pride hat on. You are as much a part of the problem here as they are. There's too much division and hate out there

I respect the opinions of those who don't support lgbtq+ pandering but don't conflate pedophilia with being gay or trans. The ones that claim a rainbow flag = pedophile don't deserve respect.
 
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It stopped being about acceptance over a decade ago. It's purely a weapon/marketing ploy at this stage.

Most actual gay people probably ought to find it repulsive.

EDIT: as a note that's only somewhat relevant, the overwhelming majority of champagne socialists (see: the whacko wealth hoarders that have shown up in this thread as examples) have basically zero contact with any community they claim they're "prideful" for, and yet feel the obligation to speak as if they know all of the ins-and-outs of each of those communities. My favorites are watching them talk about the plight of black folks while being the first ones to literally never visit black communities and refusing to do any kind of actual meaningful work for those communities. They don't even like getting out and listening to people!

I'm your huckleberry. My charity, The Island of Misfit Toys, has bought Christmas gifts for about 250-500 underprivileged children annually. So, go ahead and call me out, but be prepared to learn that I do more the communities in question than most. What is it you're doing?

I highlighted the bolded statement because it oozes stupidity.
 
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What does twerking in front of a child and whipping a person in assless chaps while simulating sodomy have to do with pride and acceptance??? Too many examples of this at pride parades to say it about equal right..it about being treated special because of your sexuality
 
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You're not wrong.
1st time for everything, I suppose.

Cultural evolution is a slow, ugly process. One side is hyper resistant to change, the other side is wants to participate in full freedom at an accelerated pace. Both sides tend to craft bad arguments to support their views. There are still a handful of holdouts against interracial marriages (in all the races). These moments of friction are exacerbated when the change becomes politicized and endorsed publicly. The resistors dig in their heels even harder.
 
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Again, if they want to be treated just like everyone else, maybe not feel the need to call it to attention? I don't recall having a hetero pride month or people parading over the fact that they're straight. We certainly don't have a hetero flag. We just go about our daily lives and don't concern ourselves with the whole world knowing which side of the fence we're on.

A co-worker of mine is gay and he H A T E S pride month with a passion! He thinks it's a stupid concept (his own words) and he hates how the LGBT community is weaponizing it to coerce businesses into publicly supporting it, otherwise being labeled as bigoted and homophobic.
I’ve been saying this forever. For gay people who live their lives normally and don’t always talk about flags or being gay I don’t have any problem with them. Hang with some regularly. It’s the other idiots who annoy me. The “we want to be treated like everyone else but we want a month, flag and freak parades to celebrate us being different” They can get lost
 
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Please tell me in 2023 what legal "rights" are being deprived of someone who's gay.

Gays were given the right to marry less than 8 years ago. And this board is full of folks who call them an abomination comparing them to pedophiles while saying they are doing it in the lord's name. And I got news for those people, if your right about heaven and hell... you better pack for the after life light because you're gonna be warm.
 
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I’ve been saying this forever. For gay people who live their lives normally and don’t always talk about flags or being gay I don’t have any problem with them. Hang with some regularly. It’s the other idiots who annoy me. The “we want to be treated like everyone else but we want a month, flag and freak parades to celebrate us being different” They can get lost

It isn't to celebrate them being different. It is celebrating their ability to be open with their relationships like heterosexuals have always been able to do.
 
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I remember libs spending 2 decades telling us how great all Muslims are. Which side do they pick here? Seems it won’t be the Muslims

Nobody told you how great they were. You were simply told they had just as much right to practice their religion as Christians do in this country. Big difference. I'd prefer nobody practice religion because there would be a lot less strife in the world.
 

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