Millions of Illegal Aliens From All Over The World Head For U.S. Border

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AM64 said:
This can't come cheap. It is being supported. Why is no one looking into who is behind it? The news media are hot on finding who is behind many other things (like support for Trump or other GOP figures), so why not who is sponsoring actual illegal activity?
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Because the vast majority of politicians are behind it because the vast majority of their big money donors are behind it. Cheap labor!!
 
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AM64 said:
The feds wouldn't let the states and local governments act to turn illegals back in the past. Makes sense if you can't stop them, then you just ship them out to somebody else's turf - especially if those other places are blabbing about illegals having rights and associated BS. They have a right to be met at the border and turned around ... end of rights.
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I know the Feds will intervene, but make them do it. The visual itself would be a HUGE win. It will never happen though because neither side wants to really stop the influx of cheap labor.
 
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Not sure I buy the "republicans want the cheap labor" argument any more than I buy the "GOP get contributions from business and dems get theirs from the people". I do believe that the less affected the state, the less GOP "representatives" care about fixing the problem. Our members of congress are really very lazy people unless there's something in it for them, and this problem doesn't seem to check that box.
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We had a GOP President that specifically ran on immigration and build the wall. What did he do? Very little, actually. What did his own Party do to block him? Quite a bit.

It's all a total con job. GOP voters need to quit making excuses and admit they have been conned on immigration. You are much more likely to get a huge amnesty bill from the GOP than you are actual border security.
 
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I wonder how many of you have actually lived in a border state. I have, for 15 years. Others?
 
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DHS warns illegals of upcoming raids ... I am sure the warn of any upcoming ATF raids as well.

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volgr said:
We had a GOP President that specifically ran on immigration and build the wall. What did he do? Very little, actually. What did his own Party do to block him? Quite a bit.

It's all a total con job. GOP voters need to quit making excuses and admit they have been conned on immigration. You are much more likely to get a huge amnesty bill from the GOP than you are actual border security.
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I think Trump would have done much more on the wall issue if not blocked by it seems everybody else. I tend to agree with you that amnesty is more likely than fixing the problem regardless of need or what citizens actually want. The GOP could pander amnesty as doing something, and the dems would drool at the prospect.

Where I have a problem on the GOP wants this and dems want that it that I can't see it being nearly as clear as people want to make it seem - that is dems allowing refugees in as good Samaritans and the GOP doing it for labor. Both are BS arguments. Neither party knows what to do frankly, so they'll sit on their thumbs and rotate. If they could find a real way to profit, we'd see progress in one direction or the other rather than constant dithering and obstruction on stopping illegal immigration. My guess is the big profit center for the time being is funds flowing into places to feed, store, and care for illegals ... with appropriate kickbacks and siphoning of funds, of course. NY shelling out $8M/day - BS. Can you even imagine how that is being distributed - NYC being the corrupt chithole that it is. Funny that Trump couldn't divert funds for a wall, but a dem administration can divert all kinds of funds for pet projects.
 
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Border Patrol agents Outraged after CBP discloses plan to clear immigrants from El Paso

EL PASO, Texas — Border Patrol agents are upset with leadership at U.S. Customs and Border Protection for publicizing its secret plans to send police into a part of downtown that has become overrun with a couple of thousand illegal immigrants living on the streets.

CBP, the agency over Border Patrol, announced late Monday that starting Tuesday, it would "conduct a targeted enforcement operation" in El Paso but gave no further information. Approximately 2,500 immigrants who slipped into the country undetected have set up residence on the streets outside Sacred Heart Church and turned city blocks into slums.


The first unnamed official and a second senior-level official both said that rank-and-file agents on the ground feared that carrying out what could become a highly publicized, even violent event if people fight law enforcement would demonize agents.

Border Patrol agents outraged after CBP discloses plan to clear immigrants from El Paso
 
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U.S. Bishops’ Immigration Czar Slams Secure the Border Act as ‘Beyond Justification’

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The chairman of the U.S. Bishops’ Committee on Migration has sent a letter urging members of Congress to oppose the Secure the Border Act of 2023 as an unjustifiable piece of legislation.

The committee chair, open-borders champion Bishop Mark Seitz of El Paso, insisted that the bill contains a collection of “harmful measures” and urged instead “the drafting of bipartisan legislation that is more in keeping with our nation’s rich tradition of welcome.”

Seitz, who has been described as “a hardline advocate for the rights of immigrants” and who has been “highly critical of efforts to restrict immigration by both Republicans and Democrats,” asserted that the proposed legislation would “undermine the rule of law.”.

U.S. Bishops’ Immigration Czar Slams Secure the Border Act
 
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AM64 said:
I think Trump would have done much more on the wall issue if not blocked by it seems everybody else. I tend to agree with you that amnesty is more likely than fixing the problem regardless of need or what citizens actually want. The GOP could pander amnesty as doing something, and the dems would drool at the prospect.

Where I have a problem on the GOP wants this and dems want that it that I can't see it being nearly as clear as people want to make it seem - that is dems allowing refugees in as good Samaritans and the GOP doing it for labor. Both are BS arguments. Neither party knows what to do frankly, so they'll sit on their thumbs and rotate. If they could find a real way to profit, we'd see progress in one direction or the other rather than constant dithering and obstruction on stopping illegal immigration. My guess is the big profit center for the time being is funds flowing into places to feed, store, and care for illegals ... with appropriate kickbacks and siphoning of funds, of course. NY shelling out $8M/day - BS. Can you even imagine how that is being distributed - NYC being the corrupt chithole that it is. Funny that Trump couldn't divert funds for a wall, but a dem administration can divert all kinds of funds for pet projects.
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Trump could've built the wall, but he made excuses instead. Finally, his base forced him to build some of it but he did so reluctantly.

Neither side gives two rips about stopping illegal immigration.
 
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Border Patrol agents Outraged after CBP discloses plan to clear immigrants from El Paso

EL PASO, Texas — Border Patrol agents are upset with leadership at U.S. Customs and Border Protection for publicizing its secret plans to send police into a part of downtown that has become overrun with a couple of thousand illegal immigrants living on the streets.

CBP, the agency over Border Patrol, announced late Monday that starting Tuesday, it would "conduct a targeted enforcement operation" in El Paso but gave no further information. Approximately 2,500 immigrants who slipped into the country undetected have set up residence on the streets outside Sacred Heart Church and turned city blocks into slums.


The first unnamed official and a second senior-level official both said that rank-and-file agents on the ground feared that carrying out what could become a highly publicized, even violent event if people fight law enforcement would demonize agents.

Border Patrol agents outraged after CBP discloses plan to clear immigrants from El Paso
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Obviously somebody had to warn them a raid was coming. The fix was in from the time biden was elected.
 
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U.S. Bishops’ Immigration Czar Slams Secure the Border Act as ‘Beyond Justification’

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The chairman of the U.S. Bishops’ Committee on Migration has sent a letter urging members of Congress to oppose the Secure the Border Act of 2023 as an unjustifiable piece of legislation.

The committee chair, open-borders champion Bishop Mark Seitz of El Paso, insisted that the bill contains a collection of “harmful measures” and urged instead “the drafting of bipartisan legislation that is more in keeping with our nation’s rich tradition of welcome.”

Seitz, who has been described as “a hardline advocate for the rights of immigrants” and who has been “highly critical of efforts to restrict immigration by both Republicans and Democrats,” asserted that the proposed legislation would “undermine the rule of law.”.

U.S. Bishops’ Immigration Czar Slams Secure the Border Act
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And THAT has always been my guess as to who has been stirring up the migration trains. Religion (one especially) drumming up business. Government funds going to both profits and especially non-profits to feed and house; too bad the media aren't publicizing the money trail.
 
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Texas rep says Guatemalan President told him 80,000 migrants headed to border with Title 42 set to expire

U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, says he learned from the president of Guatemala, Alejandro Giammattei, that more than 80,000 migrants, primarily from Venezuela, are moving toward the U.S.-Mexico border, ahead of Thursday's expiration of Title 42.

President Giammattei also said he tried to call the White House on the matter, but nobody would take his calls.

Texas rep says Guatemalan president told him 80,000 migrants headed to border with Title 42 set to expire
 
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ETV said:
Here in SE Texas for 22 years. Work takes me to the southern border area several times a year. Your point?
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My point is that those who live in border states tend to have a better perspective on the situation. Do you disagree?
 
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hog88 said:
What's your prospective?
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I knew a lot of migrant workers, my best friend employed crews of them. Our system is broken, no denying that but they are by and large people just trying to provide a better life for their families.
 
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bignewt said:
I knew a lot of migrant workers, my best friend employed crews of them. Our system is broken, no denying that but they are by and large people just trying to provide a better life for their families.
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I don't think you will find many people disputing your statement whether they live in a border state or far from it.
 
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