Millions of Illegal Aliens From All Over The World Head For U.S. Border

[Carl Pickens]

A border wall is one of the few issues I disagree with conservatives on. The idea is proven. But a wall is not an impenetrable barrier. It needs to be manned. Those guarding it must be able to use deadly force.
Even with technology assist, it will come down to an amount of manpower, tech, weaponry, and support per some distance of barrier for the wall to be effective.
There are fixed costs with building and also ongoing costs to man it. The outlay isn't worth the objective especially when there are cheaper ways to go about curtailing illegal immigration.

I still think my giant catapult idea would be effective. I think watching your fellow border crossers being launched 200 yards back into Mexico would be a huge deterrent.
You could fund it by charging admission and allowing spectators.

 

[Orangeburst]

I still think my giant catapult idea would be effective. I think watching your fellow border crossers being launched 200 yards back into Mexico would be a huge deterrent.
You could fund it by charging admission and allowing spectators.

 

[BreatheUT]

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How stupid!

The Berlin Wall was meant to keep people in the country not out of the country. The West Germans were not thinking, oh I think I'll just go sneak into that oppressive, communist state today.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Fury in historic northeast city as Officials Use School Buses for MIGRANTS, Axing Local Kids' Service​

Parents in a Boston exurb have reacted angrily to revelations that schools are axing buses for local children — but keeping them running for the kids of migrants and asylum seekers.

Some 150 students at Stoughton Public Schools are scrambling to find ways to get to school from September 4, after the district cut services due to a lack of funding.

Controversially, the hundreds of migrant and asylum seeker families living in the town of Stoughton will still get school-buses, thanks to funding from the state.


The scrapping of buses for local kids comes amid fears that Massachusetts is going broke and will lose $1.8 billion over the next two years due to migrant costs.


Parents in the Boston exurb of Stoughton are furious that 150 students are losing their school bus service when term starts next month



Hundreds rallied for an end to border crossings, sanctuary cities, and housing for undocumented immigrants in Boston, Massachusetts, in May

Outrage as school buses axed for US kids but not for migrants

Education chiefs in this New England city say they're keeping two buses running for migrant students but cutting the service for 150 local children.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LouderVol]

@n_huffhines I thought it was this thread, but don't see it. you refuted someone, maybe Marcus, on the amount of human trafficking, specifically kids, and you said it was closer to 100 a year than the reported 100k a year.

At first I didn't really question your numbers, because you can typically back them up. but this article made me think your numbers are way off. Ex-Austin Peay Football Coach Arrested for Human Trafficking Days After Resignation now I could be off on the initial numbers you used, but 100 is what I remembered, so that is what I am going to use. if you said something different I am not trying to put words/numbers in your mouth.

article states that TBI recovered 7 children from a sting related to an ex-Austin Pea coach. Even assuming 7 was ALL of the children in Tennessee involved in trafficking, that would extrapolate to more than 100 children in the US, based on population averages. TN has 2% of the population, so that would equal out to 350ish children nation wide. which is already a far enough deviation from the 100 you quoted.

and that is only the number recovered in one sting, not the actual total, and from just one city, not the whole state as I extrapolated above. That was 7 kids RECOVERED in a city with less than 200,000 people. extrapolated from the city out to the country that would be well over 11k children.

can you share the source on your numbers? I am very curious about how they got it, because the anecdotal evidence available really calls it into question.

 

[n_huffhines]

@n_huffhines I thought it was this thread, but don't see it. you refuted someone, maybe Marcus, on the amount of human trafficking, specifically kids, and you said it was closer to 100 a year than the reported 100k a year.

At first I didn't really question your numbers, because you can typically back them up. but this article made me think your numbers are way off. Ex-Austin Peay Football Coach Arrested for Human Trafficking Days After Resignation now I could be off on the initial numbers you used, but 100 is what I remembered, so that is what I am going to use. if you said something different I am not trying to put words/numbers in your mouth.

article states that TBI recovered 7 children from a sting related to an ex-Austin Pea coach. Even assuming 7 was ALL of the children in Tennessee involved in trafficking, that would extrapolate to more than 100 children in the US, based on population averages. TN has 2% of the population, so that would equal out to 350ish children nation wide. which is already a far enough deviation from the 100 you quoted.

and that is only the number recovered in one sting, not the actual total, and from just one city, not the whole state as I extrapolated above. That was 7 kids RECOVERED in a city with less than 200,000 people. extrapolated from the city out to the country that would be well over 11k children.

can you share the source on your numbers? I am very curious about how they got it, because the anecdotal evidence available really calls it into question.

There are three things happening that confuse the numbers...

Stranger danger kidnappings, which are extremely rare.

Minors getting trafficked who aren't missing is much more common. Almost all minors who are trafficked are trafficked by a family member (Mom, Uncle, Dad, brother), or someone close to them like a boyfriend.

Then you have runaways who almost always come home or sometimes end up voluntarily turning to prostitution because home is worse (and often they were already getting trafficked at home).

The words "missing" and "kidnapped" don't appear in your excerpt, but most people seem to infer that.

 

[LouderVol]

There are three things happening that confuse the numbers...

Stranger danger kidnappings, which are extremely rare.

Minors getting trafficked who aren't missing is much more common. Almost all minors who are trafficked are trafficked by a family member (Mom, Uncle, Dad, brother), or someone close to them like a boyfriend.

Then you have runaways who almost always come home or sometimes end up voluntarily turning to prostitution because home is worse (and often they were already getting trafficked at home).

The words "missing" and "kidnapped" don't appear in your excerpt, but most people seem to infer that.

gotcha, I understand now. the bolded are some real sickos.

 

[n_huffhines]

gotcha, I understand now. the bolded are some real sickos.

For those of us who had relatively good home lives, I think in our minds we infer "missing" and "kidnapped" because we can't fathom the home life that they have. It makes more sense to our brains that strangers would be the villains.

 

[LouderVol]

For those of us who had relatively good home lives, I think in our minds we infer "missing" and "kidnapped" because we can't fathom the home life that they have. It makes more sense to our brains that strangers would be the villains.

I would still be curious to see the sources breaking it down. because I do have to admit that I do struggle thinking that a vast majority are from "family". I knew it existed, and bad enough where it wasn't a case of individual one offs; just didn't think it was a majority.

 

[dalton_vol]

Fury in historic northeast city as Officials Use School Buses for MIGRANTS, Axing Local Kids' Service​

Parents in a Boston exurb have reacted angrily to revelations that schools are axing buses for local children — but keeping them running for the kids of migrants and asylum seekers.

Some 150 students at Stoughton Public Schools are scrambling to find ways to get to school from September 4, after the district cut services due to a lack of funding.

Controversially, the hundreds of migrant and asylum seeker families living in the town of Stoughton will still get school-buses, thanks to funding from the state.


The scrapping of buses for local kids comes amid fears that Massachusetts is going broke and will lose $1.8 billion over the next two years due to migrant costs.

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Parents in the Boston exurb of Stoughton are furious that 150 students are losing their school bus service when term starts next month


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Hundreds rallied for an end to border crossings, sanctuary cities, and housing for undocumented immigrants in Boston, Massachusetts, in May

Outrage as school buses axed for US kids but not for migrants

Education chiefs in this New England city say they're keeping two buses running for migrant students but cutting the service for 150 local children.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yet those fools will still vote dem. They deserve i

 

[dalton_vol]

@n_huffhines I thought it was this thread, but don't see it. you refuted someone, maybe Marcus, on the amount of human trafficking, specifically kids, and you said it was closer to 100 a year than the reported 100k a year.

At first I didn't really question your numbers, because you can typically back them up. but this article made me think your numbers are way off. Ex-Austin Peay Football Coach Arrested for Human Trafficking Days After Resignation now I could be off on the initial numbers you used, but 100 is what I remembered, so that is what I am going to use. if you said something different I am not trying to put words/numbers in your mouth.

article states that TBI recovered 7 children from a sting related to an ex-Austin Pea coach. Even assuming 7 was ALL of the children in Tennessee involved in trafficking, that would extrapolate to more than 100 children in the US, based on population averages. TN has 2% of the population, so that would equal out to 350ish children nation wide. which is already a far enough deviation from the 100 you quoted.

and that is only the number recovered in one sting, not the actual total, and from just one city, not the whole state as I extrapolated above. That was 7 kids RECOVERED in a city with less than 200,000 people. extrapolated from the city out to the country that would be well over 11k children.

can you share the source on your numbers? I am very curious about how they got it, because the anecdotal evidence available really calls it into question.

Are they lumping prostitution under trafficking now? If one purchases a woman of the night, that person is now a trafficker?

 

[n_huffhines]

I would still be curious to see the sources breaking it down. because I do have to admit that I do struggle thinking that a vast majority are from "family". I knew it existed, and bad enough where it wasn't a case of individual one offs; just didn't think it was a majority.

I've seen 100. I've seen 300. Different sources say different things. The first time I looked it up it was for a single year and the number sticks out in my mind. It was only 93.

It's the same thing with sexual abuse, too. Family, church, coaches, friends, neighbors, and other kids are almost always the problem, not some unknown pervert lurking.

 

[n_huffhines]

Are they lumping prostitution under trafficking now? If one purchases a woman of the night, that person is now a trafficker?

Prostitution becomes sex trafficking if there is a 3rd party involved.

From the perspective of the John, who may or may not even know there is a 3rd party, the act is essentially the same as long as there is no compulsion, but the crimes don't sound the same at all.

 

[LouderVol]

Are they lumping prostitution under trafficking now? If one purchases a woman of the night, that person is now a trafficker?

not necessarily, but it also doesn't negate the possibility. but in this particular case there were multiple children involved. which would classify it as trafficking, to me at least.

 

[dalton_vol]

Prostitution becomes sex trafficking if there is a 3rd party involved.

From the perspective of the John, who may or may not even know there is a 3rd party, the act is essentially the same as long as there is no compulsion, but the crimes don't sound the same at all.

So pimps are sex traffickers. If you buy a woman on the street, it's not sex trafficking. In this guy's case, if he arranged any type of meet up, he's sex trafficking. Is that accurate?

 

[dalton_vol]

WWhat's scary is every person caught selling kids, I bet there are hundreds more not caught and thousands more are buying them. I think online porn has caused sex trafficking to go warp speed.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Biden-Harris admin Refuses to Reveal Nationalities of Terror Watchlist Migrants Nabbed at Border​

EXCLUSIVE: The Biden-Harris administration has again blocked a request by Fox News to reveal the nationalities of people on the FBI terror watchlist arrested at the border by Border Patrol, citing the privacy interests of those who were encountered and arguing that it could expose law enforcement "vulnerabilities" and "tip off" terrorists.

"[Customs and Border Protection (CBP)] is committed to protecting the identity of individuals and avoiding divulging information about any individual by either direct or indirect means," the agency said in a letter to Fox. "Releasing data for a particular nationality, or nationalities, that reflect a small number of individuals could lead to identification, especially by organizations familiar with the individuals."

Fox’s Bill Melugin filed a Freedom of Information Act request in October 2023 seeking the nationalities of suspects on the FBI terror watchlist arrested at the southern border entering between ports of entry by Border Patrol.

Biden-Harris admin refuses to reveal nationalities of terror watchlist migrants nabbed at border

The Biden administration is continuing to refuse to turn over the nationalities of those encountered at the southern border whose names appear on the terror watch list.

www.foxnews.com

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Biden-Harris admin Refuses to Reveal Nationalities of Terror Watchlist Migrants Nabbed at Border​

EXCLUSIVE: The Biden-Harris administration has again blocked a request by Fox News to reveal the nationalities of people on the FBI terror watchlist arrested at the border by Border Patrol, citing the privacy interests of those who were encountered and arguing that it could expose law enforcement "vulnerabilities" and "tip off" terrorists.

"[Customs and Border Protection (CBP)] is committed to protecting the identity of individuals and avoiding divulging information about any individual by either direct or indirect means," the agency said in a letter to Fox. "Releasing data for a particular nationality, or nationalities, that reflect a small number of individuals could lead to identification, especially by organizations familiar with the individuals."

Fox’s Bill Melugin filed a Freedom of Information Act request in October 2023 seeking the nationalities of suspects on the FBI terror watchlist arrested at the southern border entering between ports of entry by Border Patrol.


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Biden-Harris admin refuses to reveal nationalities of terror watchlist migrants nabbed at border

The Biden administration is continuing to refuse to turn over the nationalities of those encountered at the southern border whose names appear on the terror watch list.

www.foxnews.com

So the Biden Administration is worried about the names of terrorists being made public?

Yet, they joyfully spread the names of every conservative that was arrested for being anywhere near DC on J6 on ever social media platforms they could find.

 

[C-south]

A border wall is one of the few issues I disagree with conservatives on. The idea is proven. But a wall is not an impenetrable barrier. It needs to be manned. Those guarding it must be able to use deadly force.
Even with technology assist, it will come down to an amount of manpower, tech, weaponry, and support per some distance of barrier for the wall to be effective.
There are fixed costs with building and also ongoing costs to man it. The outlay isn't worth the objective especially when there are cheaper ways to go about curtailing illegal immigration.

Money is no object.

 

[C-south]

I still think my giant catapult idea would be effective. I think watching your fellow border crossers being launched 200 yards back into Mexico would be a huge deterrent.
You could fund it by charging admission and allowing spectators.

A live-streaming mine field would be cool. Maybe some sentry guns.

 

[LouderVol]

A live-streaming mine field would be cool. Maybe some sentry guns.

Squid Games. survival guarantees citizenship.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Nolte: Axios Spreads Kamala’s Lie About Supporting Border Wall​

The pro-Kamala Harris gerbils at the far-left Axios are spreading the absurd lie Vice President CacklyMcNeverBorderCzar is now in favor of completing former President Trump’s southern border wall.

I’m told that when you enter the Axios offices, everyone has their own locker where they check in their self-respect.

“Harris flip-flops on building the border wall,” reads the lying headline (in an effort to protect democracy, I do not link disinformation).

“If she’s elected president,” the gerbils tell us, “Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called “un-American” during the Trump administration.”

Lies. Lies. Lies. All lies.

Nolte: Axios Spreads Kamala’s Lie About Supporting Border Wall

The far-left Axios is spreading the absurd lie that Kamala Harris is now in favor of completing Trump’s southern border wall.

www.breitbart.com

 

[n_huffhines]

So pimps are sex traffickers. If you buy a woman on the street, it's not sex trafficking. In this guy's case, if he arranged any type of meet up, he's sex trafficking. Is that accurate?

Might be. Might not be.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

How it's going...

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Homeland Security Hands Out More Money for Illegal Immigrants​

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced on Wednesday the allocation of over $380 million to go towards the care of illegal immigrants living in communities consumed by the Biden-Harris administration's border crisis.

Through the Shelter and Services Program (SSP), which the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) administers in coordination with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the multi-million dollar DHS initiative provides financial support to jurisdictions on the border and in the interior that are caring for illegal aliens recently released from DHS custody and awaiting immigration court proceedings.

This additional funding adds to the $259 million in SSP grants that DHS distributed in April 2024.

Last year, more than $780 million was awarded through SSP and the Emergency Food and Shelter Program – Humanitarian Awards (EFSP-H) funding, offering organizations and cities across the country financial assistance with their "care" efforts.

Homeland Security Hands Out More Money for Illegal Immigrants

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