Milton our qb next year?

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#152
Milton will start next year. He's got a better arm than Hooker who airmailed a couple deep balls yesterday. He has more time in the system than a Frosh Nico. He's farther along than Tayven Jackson.

He's it for us next year to start anyway. He's better than he was last year, but he also does things that give pause. He was still standing flat footed in the pocket at times yesterday.

All we can do is let Heupel continue to work him and hope he continues to develop. If not, hopefully one of the others can come in and take over
 
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chattavol420 said:
Maybe the only mistake heupel has made thus far is choosing Milton prior to the start of last season…as opposed to playing multiple qbs to begin the year allowing someone to win the job against real competition. It was a mistake. I know a lot of people will say I wasn’t at practice and how dare me try to make an observation only a coach should make bla bla. But, we have all seen times when a coach handles a qb competition early in the year by playing multiple guys until one has clearly established himself. That’s what should’ve happened.

Anyway, my point for bringing this up is most around the program seem to believe Milton will be our quarterback next season. Kind of a placeholder until Jackson or Nico can take the reins. I hope that is not the case. Milton is not going to just all of the sudden become a good qb. He doesn’t lack knowledge of the offense or need to develop physically. He possesses all the physical ability and is an intelligent/high character kid. What he doesn’t possess is pocket awareness and moxie.

I expected him to pick a part that defense today with pinpoint accurate throws and lead three or four scoring drives. I realize we were run heavy but he just isn’t good.

Playing QB is all about Moxie, pocket awareness, understanding distance and timing, accuracy, and understanding when to move the sticks and went to take a shot. There were several situations Milton threw low percentage balls on third down when he could have easily ran for the first down allowing the offense another set of downs.

Anyway, for all the amazing decision heupel makes day in/day out he seems to have a flaw when it comes to a kid like Milton. I think he becomes Infatuated with these physical capabilities and thinks he can coach the Moxie/pocket awareness and Savviness into him. But he can’t. Who cares if your quarterback can do backflips? Or throw a ball 80 yards? It’s totally irreverent. I hope he allows a competition between Jackson and Nico to play out. But I don’t think that’ll happen. I think we’ll see Milton out there to start the year.
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Milton can easily throw the ball 70 to 75 yards and is 6'5" tall. With our two great receivers back next year, Milton will be a force that few teams can deal with. Note on the last play of the 1st half, Milton came it to do the long throw to the end zone.
 
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Spook1 said:
Milton can easily throw the ball 70 to 75 yards and is 6'5" tall. With our two great receivers back next year, Milton will be a force that few teams can deal with. Note on the last play of the 1st half, Milton came it to do the long throw to the end zone.
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you are wrong. That size and arm strength doesn’t help much at all. What matters is pocket awareness and moxie and Milton is talented in that way
 
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tombowalker said:
Heupel is lucky to have fans such as yourself to teach him how to manage a QB room. C'mon Danny White.... get this man on the payroll.
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Yep. Bizarre that you would find an opinion on a fan message board. I’m sure this is the only one on the entire board.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Maybe the only mistake heupel has made thus far is choosing Milton prior to the start of last season…as opposed to playing multiple qbs to begin the year allowing someone to win the job against real competition. It was a mistake. I know a lot of people will say I wasn’t at practice and how dare me try to make an observation only a coach should make bla bla. But, we have all seen times when a coach handles a qb competition early in the year by playing multiple guys until one has clearly established himself. That’s what should’ve happened.

Anyway, my point for bringing this up is most around the program seem to believe Milton will be our quarterback next season. Kind of a placeholder until Jackson or Nico can take the reins. I hope that is not the case. Milton is not going to just all of the sudden become a good qb. He doesn’t lack knowledge of the offense or need to develop physically. He possesses all the physical ability and is an intelligent/high character kid. What he doesn’t possess is pocket awareness and moxie.

I expected him to pick a part that defense today with pinpoint accurate throws and lead three or four scoring drives. I realize we were run heavy but he just isn’t good.

Playing QB is all about Moxie, pocket awareness, understanding distance and timing, accuracy, and understanding when to move the sticks and went to take a shot. There were several situations Milton threw low percentage balls on third down when he could have easily ran for the first down allowing the offense another set of downs.

Anyway, for all the amazing decision heupel makes day in/day out he seems to have a flaw when it comes to a kid like Milton. I think he becomes Infatuated with these physical capabilities and thinks he can coach the Moxie/pocket awareness and Savviness into him. But he can’t. Who cares if your quarterback can do backflips? Or throw a ball 80 yards? It’s totally irreverent. I hope he allows a competition between Jackson and Nico to play out. But I don’t think that’ll happen. I think we’ll see Milton out there to start the year.
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"What he doesn’t possess is pocket awareness and moxie." My Dad and I were discussing this. It just seems like he is constantly performing v.s. playing. Hard to explain. It's as if the limelight is constantly in his eyes.
 
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madbamahater said:
Yes
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Yes yes. We all see the value of having a mature older qb vs a frosh or redshirt frosh. Milton is a clubhouse leader today…don’t have to wait for next year. When he’s played this year he looks like a different guy…maybe not Hooker but JH system works when qb is competent and understands how everything operates. If we get our DBs right and probably bring in another wr burner in portal we are all set.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
Oh boy. Here’s the thing. There’s really nothing to worry about. Whichever of the three guys who will be competing for the job - Joe, Tayven, and Nico - is going to have to beat out the other two. That’s axiomatic, and I’m stating the obvious to emphasize it. Iron sharpens iron. I expect Joe to start next year. If you want to panic over meaningless minutes in one game, go ahead, but I expect him to be ready. If one of the younger guys beats him out for the job? That says a lot about their skill and progression, and will be very exciting.

I’ll go out on a limb that I don’t think is a real limb: if Nico beats out Milton for the starting job next year, he will be a Heisman contender as a true freshman.
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I have seen an improvemtn in Milton, but at this point he doesn't get rid of the ball near as fast as Hendon does, however Hendon has taken more snaps. If he can make quicker decisions he will be ok, but that we will see next year. If in game one he is still making the same mistakes as he has, its time for number two to step in.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Milton is 16-22 (one incompletion was the hail mary vs Bama that was actually very well thrown) for 360 yards, 3 touchdowns and no interceptions, he also has 44 yards rushing on 4 carries. This while playing mostly with 2nd and 3rd stringers and people are somehow seeing some kind of big faults in his game to the extent they think he's a completely lost cause? Hooker's QB rating on the season is 187. Milton's QB rating this season is off the charts ridiculous at 270. I've seen nothing from him that doesn't look dramatically improved this season.

Not sure why people are so dismissive of him and are insulting his intelligence. Milton graduated from Michigan in three years and will leave UT with a second degree. He also picked the offense up quickly and that's why he initially won the job.

I'll be surprised if he doesn't play well next season. Probably not Hooker level but we've really never seen any QB here play at the level Hooker is right now. 44 touchdowns and 4 interceptions is a stat like you'd see from prime Aaron Rodgers. Milton will likely play and put up big numbers, every Heupel QB does for the most part. If something happens and it's a freshman, his freshman QBs have also put up big numbers.
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He actually has more physical ability than Hooker does. Game speed will show how much he has progressed, and I persoanly have seen a lot of improvement from Milton, I hope he has the awareness and pocket presence, and getting rid of the ball at the right time. If he does that he will be great.
 
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overseasorange2 said:
Actually, Milton reminds me of Michael Vick (particularly in stature). Just my opinion. ;)
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I don’t see the Vick comparison at all, other than arm. But I think Milton has even more arm strength than Vick. I’ve never seen the ball come out of someone’s hands like the ball he throws. Vick, though, was an absolutely electric athlete. Milton isn’t.
 
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