Minneapolis to allow Muslim prayer call broadcasts at all hours

[sonofUT62]

This country is not going to see a big increase in religion. That just isn’t going to happen, no matter which party is in charge.

I have found myself mentioning God a lot more in the last 6 years. It’s just usually proceeded by “Oh My”

 

[AM64]

Great, the secessionists want a "national divorce" because somebody doesn't agree with them.

We started out as a union of states with states able (except with certain exceptions) to run matters within the state. Then federalists changed all that and forced a federal government that would determine how we act - as a country not as individual states. That forces about 350M irregularly pegs unhappily into other shaped holes rather than allowing the people of Tennessee to be different from the people of New York or California. It's easier to make rules to accommodate smaller groups of people than force all to live to someone else's standards. It's not like we force someone to live in GA if they'd be more at home in IL, for example. The larger issue is becoming not just regional but increasingly large cities vs suburban/rural. It's easy to divide states; it's a lot harder to eject cities.

 

[Christian Lowe]

Yeah, it isn't; I've literally never heard scripture referred to as 'red words'.
You did say I'd be more difficult to love than Muslims you don't know at all but would prefer to live with anyway.

And @Christian Lowe - please cease...fluffing me...and consider unfluffing me; mustn't offend Puritans with impure posting habits that dirty their finger tips pointing out.

What does that even mean

 

[AM64]

It’s weird you lost these examples as though they are all analogous to each other.

Hate to break it to you, but debate and disagreement is a fundamental part of democracy. Has been since the beginning.

Debate and disagreement are fine. Government usurping individual rights is not fine. We have to have some ground rules to keep things working and people civil - perfect example would be those that require drivers to drive on one side of the road, prohibition on homicide, etc. Otherwise generally leave people alone to live their own lives.

 

[hog88]

This country is not going to see a big increase in religion. That just isn’t going to happen, no matter which party is in charge.

That depends on the economy, when bad times come people tend to turn to religion.

 

[RockyTop85]

Then you read a portion and not all. I covered that topic

I went back and skimmed it again and still don’t see anything that covers that. Your call to action was:

If there is a partisan hack pandering for votes, pick someone else. If a politician increases their net worth by multiples, vote them out.
The only way to change the direction we are headed is to turn the television off and walk outside. Meet your neighbor and shake their hand. Love them like you love yourself. Quit judging.

I agree with the second part. The first part I agree with in principle.

But if you said that some of the anti-/non-establishment people who have been elected recently are even more trash than the establishment and I just didn’t see it then we agree.

 

[AM64]

God certainly has no place in US government.

Certainly not shocked you would say that. More reasons I have no desire to share a country with you.

I think it's more like religion has no place in government, but some things that religions do teach certainly have a place in government. Example: Thou shalt not kill; whereas committing adultery is an act that is up to the morals and conscience of the individuals rather than the state. Theft likewise may be a religious concept, but it certainly has a place in law also.

 

[AM64]

If you live in certain places, you learn to expect certain sounds at inconvenient times. If you live next to train tracks, are you going to complain about trains passing by? I'm not saying it's desirable, or that it's not annoying as hell to non-Muslims, but it is what it is. You can choose not to live near a mosque.

But can you refuse to allow a mosque, a church, or any other potential noise source from moving in next to you?

 

[Lawrence Wright]

That depends on the economy, when bad times come people tend to turn to religion.

And alcohol
And illegal substances

 

[hog88]

And alcohol
And illegal substances

Very true.

 

[NCFisher]

I would’ve said this country wasn’t becoming a neomarxist wasteland 15 years ago but I would’ve been wrong too.

The pendulum will shift.

I agree with the bold.
But you aren't advocating for a theocracy?

 

[sonofUT62]

Very true.

Is the Vice Fund still a thing?

 

[NCFisher]

What does that even mean

I'm making fun of the post stating I'm just boosting my post count so you can upvote me which you've maybe done twice in our posting histories.

He termed it as you 'fluffing' me, an unsavory term out of place for a guy while quoting scripture.

 

[hog88]

Is the Vice Fund still a thing?

?

 

[sonofUT62]

?

It is/ was a mutual fund made up of only alcohol, tobacco/ gambling and firearms companies. It was thought to be recession proof because In good time’s people like booze and gambling and in bad times people like booze and gambling.

 

[Christian Lowe]

I agree with the bold.
But you aren't advocating for a theocracy?

Pure theocracy, no. But I’d like a return to the America of the past that is heavily influenced by Christian morality.

People that think we have always been so detached in our government from the church are lying to themselves, or they don’t know US political history. It has only been the way it is now since the 1990’s.

Even when I was growing up, most places were closed on Sunday. Alcohol sales weren’t allowed on Sunday until I was in high school.

 

[Christian Lowe]

It continues, but you get the point

 

[EasternVol]

This country is not going to see a big increase in religion. That just isn’t going to happen, no matter which party is in charge.

When times get tough people tend to turn more to religion. Times may well get pretty tough before long.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I guess your argument is that racism doesn't exist. I can hear you now, "I'm not racist, I even have a black friend, at work."

And I guess your IQ is about 85

 

[Carl Pickens]

And alcohol
And illegal substances

Exactly…people gonna drink more

 

[clarksvol00]

Pure theocracy, no. But I’d like a return to the America of the past that is heavily influenced by Christian morality.

People that think we have always been so detached in our government from the church are lying to themselves, or they don’t know US political history. It has only been the way it is now since the 1990’s.

Even when I was growing up, most places were closed on Sunday. Alcohol sales weren’t allowed on Sunday until I was in high school.

So you don't like big government, but you want the government to impose your moral code on people (i.e., liquor on sundays); rather than going out and spreading the word to bring people around to your way of thinking.

 

[Christian Lowe]

So you don't like big government, but you want the government to impose your moral code on people (i.e., liquor on sundays); rather than going out and spreading the word to bring people around to your way of thinking.

The fbi is actively spying on Christians who do that right now so, no. I don’t think that would work

 

[clarksvol00]

The fbi is actively spying on Christians who do that right now so, no. I don’t think that would work

But it is what you want, right? That's what your post I replied to indicates.

 

[RockyTop85]

So you don't like big government, but you want the government to impose your moral code on people (i.e., liquor on sundays); rather than going out and spreading the word to bring people around to your way of thinking.

The religious equivalent to eating ice cream straight from the tub, watching fitness videos on YouTube, and wondering why you’re still fat.

 

[Christian Lowe]

But it is what you want, right? That's what your post I replied to indicates.

Yes I would like a government to reflect Christian values.