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LouderVol said:
The SoS who lost control was an R. Remember it's the guy Trump called.
The small counties that lost power were R strongholds.
The R hold on the state legislature is not as ironclad as either of those institutions were in this last election.

So yes, they actually weakened their hold on future elections with this move. Unless you believe the Rs are suddenly going to be winning more elections?

People freaking out have been wrong on pretty much every facet.
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Passed the republican majority legislature and signed into law by the Republican governor.

I've seen some good arguments in favor of the law and I've seen some dumb ones. Saying it "hurts republicans" is about the dumbest. Sorry if that offends
 
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Tastylicks said:
pre-pandemic elections when they suppressed the vote? Its right in line with that
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Lack of drop boxes suppressed the pre-pandemic vote?

Look, I get that you are stuck in a last man standing kinda deal in an indefensible position. Maybe you should take some time and really evaluate these claims you're making for truth and accuracy
 
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Tastylicks said:
Passed the republican majority legislature and signed into law by the Republican governor.

I've seen some good arguments in favor of the law and I've seen some dumb ones. Saying it "hurts republicans" is about the dumbest. Sorry if that offends
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And saying it suppresses minority voting is THE dumbest.
 
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Colorado voting laws are similar to Georgia's despite decision to move Major League Baseball All-Star Game

Major League Baseball announced that they are moving the 2021 All-Star Game out of Georgia in protest of the state's new voting laws — and it now it is reportedly headed to Colorado, which has some rules that are similar, if not more restrictive.

The Associated Press reported Tuesday that the MLB will relocate the game to Denver’s Coors Field after pulling it from Atlanta over Georgia voting laws. In response, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp addressed the situation, comparing the two states' procedures, saying he is baffled by the decision.

"Georgia has 17 days of in-person early voting including two optional Sundays, Colorado has 15," the Republican governor said. "So what I'm being told, they also have a photo ID requirement. So it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me."

Colorado voting laws are similar to Georgia's despite decision to move Major League Baseball All-Star Game
 
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GAVol said:
Increased power? Possibly. Able to control outcomes? Unlikely.

Either way. Does that rise to the level of something that should cause economic boycott and cries of racism? Stacey Abrams herself isn't for boycotts.
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Probably not. All of the ill will GA has rightfully accumulated over the decades is once again coming home to roost. GA was in a position to take a big step forward with the way Kemp and Rafensperger handled the 2020 nonsense. The fact that so many state and national repubs attacked them showed what their true motives were.
 
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Tastylicks said:
absolutely, among other things. We saw historic participation in 2020 when they actually opened up voting methods
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to prove cause and effect you need to rule out other reasons for the change in the observed variable.

what else was different:

1. massive campaign spending (historic)
2. massive get out the vote campaign (historic)
3. massive media coverage (historic)

there's no evidence that turn out would be different with the laws just created
 
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LouderVol said:
Yes, and are the Rs actually gaining strength there?

Because the Rs had power at the SoS and county levels too.

This took power from appointed individuals, and gave it to elected officials.

You keep saying this helps Rs, but the old also helped Rs. And in the future it's pretty clear this hurts the Rs by putting power into the hands of the voters, who can now vote for who is in charge of their elections. and the Rs are getting fewer and fewer of those votes.
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Less power is in the hands of the voter regarding election issues.
They concentrated more power in the legislative branch......which is the most untrustworthy branch in GA (and most states).
 
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volinbham said:
to prove cause and effect you need to rule out other reasons for the change in the observed variable.

what else was different:

1. massive campaign spending (historic)
2. massive get out the vote campaign (historic)
3. massive media coverage (historic)

there's no evidence that turn out would be different with the laws just created
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uh huh.... like they've never done those things before. :rolleyes:
 
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luthervol said:
Probably not. All of the ill will GA has rightfully accumulated over the decades is once again coming home to roost. GA was in a position to take a big step forward with the way Kemp and Rafensperger handled the 2020 nonsense. The fact that so many state and national repubs attacked them showed what their true motives were.
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There's plenty of room for debate. But the way we're being gaslit as if we've got Mississippi Burning going on down here is appalling.
 
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