MLB Draft thread....SEC edition

#51
#51
OldTimer said:
more true than not true however for a slick fielding shortstop who has the potential to hit over .335 in the SEC he may have a number of teams wanting to pay him......
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Very very possible but it won't mean more $ than the figure thrown out here.

Most seniors drafted in the top 10 rounds get between 5-50k regardless of where they are drafted
 
#52
#52
BruinVol said:
Very very possible but it won't mean more $ than the figure thrown out here.

Most seniors drafted in the top 10 rounds get between 5-50k regardless of where they are drafted
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some of the low figures for top 10 rounds are pre-negotiated to allow more $$ to pay another top pick.

Example: Player A is a top pick and will demand more than his slot might suggest. Player B is a 20 round pick and he knows it. Team C tells player B that they will draft him in the 8th round however they will only pay 20th round money, he takes that deal because he likes that organization and he's happy to get drafted higher. Team C now has more slot money to pay Player A to lure him into signing.......

I don't disagree with your assessment, if I'm a junior and get drafted I'm probably going, especially if I would only have a year of education left to graduate. However there are few who roll the dice and stick around for another year of college for several reasons beyond a little money thrown at them.
 
#53
#53
Best bet for keeping Simcox is for his lack of power to drop him lower than the BA ranking has him.
 
#56
#56
oops...sorry, showed up in a search i did on Davila, didn't even cross my mind to check what's already here...apologies...
 
#57
#57
vol66 said:
oops...sorry, showed up in a search i did on Davila, didn't even cross my mind to check what's already here...apologies...
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No probs just alerting you. Just trying to make the baseball forum the best it can be and taking s little load off you
 
#58
#58
2015 MLB Draft Slot Values - BaseballAmerica.com

Above are the slots for the first 10 rounds.

Thought this might be a fun way of passing some time, and I have this conversation with my wife every year around this time...

If you had to sit down with your 17/18 year old son and decide on whether to sign a professional contract or go to school...based on the slots where would he have to be drafted for going pro to be an easy decision and where would he have to be drafted for college to be the easy decision? He's an average student who has wanted to play Pro ball his whole life.
 
#59
#59
vol66 said:
2015 MLB Draft Slot Values - BaseballAmerica.com

Above are the slots for the first 10 rounds.

Thought this might be a fun way of passing some time, and I have this conversation with my wife every year around this time...

If you had to sit down with your 17/18 year old son and decide on whether to sign a professional contract or go to school...based on the slots where would he have to be drafted for going pro to be an easy decision and where would he have to be drafted for college to be the easy decision? He's an average student who has wanted to play Pro ball his whole life.
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Good post

Top 5 rounds =have to go

Past that go to school. If you are a junoir you sign anywhere in the draft
 
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#60
#60
D1 Baseball's top 150 potential draftees:

25. Betts
35. Hayes
52. Stewart
86. Cabbage
132. Davila

FYI, the paid subscription for D1 Baseball is a fair value IMO, a shameless plug as I slightly infringed on their copyright policy last night.........
 
#61
#61
Cabbage worked out at Wrigley yesterday. Davila is counting the days until the draft, I guess they all do that though...
 
#62
#62
vol66 said:
2015 MLB Draft Slot Values - BaseballAmerica.com

Above are the slots for the first 10 rounds.

Thought this might be a fun way of passing some time, and I have this conversation with my wife every year around this time...

If you had to sit down with your 17/18 year old son and decide on whether to sign a professional contract or go to school...based on the slots where would he have to be drafted for going pro to be an easy decision and where would he have to be drafted for college to be the easy decision? He's an average student who has wanted to play Pro ball his whole life.
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Slot value of at least $500k. Minor league salaries are nothing.
 
#63
#63
1. College education is worth well over $500K over your lifetime (on average).
2. Normal 18 yr old boy is not emotionally ready to be on his own in that environment.
3. If he's only going to play minor league ball, well, college ball is more exciting and better attended and more fun. (remember: 93% of everyone who signs a professional contract, never spends one day in the Major Leagues).
4. If he's good enough to make it to the major leagues, he will be good enough to make it to the major leagues after 3 years of college ball.
5. Biggest risk is injury ending career (see item #1).
6. College co-eds are much better looking than minor league groupies.

College ball would be the choice every time unless it's really life changing money. Even then, it's a long discussion.
 
#64
#64
Backwards K said:
1. College education is worth well over $500K over your lifetime (on average).
2. Normal 18 yr old boy is not emotionally ready to be on his own in that environment.
3. If he's only going to play minor league ball, well, college ball is more exciting and better attended and more fun. (remember: 93% of everyone who signs a professional contract, never spends one day in the Major Leagues).
4. If he's good enough to make it to the major leagues, he will be good enough to make it to the major leagues after 3 years of college ball.
5. Biggest risk is injury ending career (see item #1).
6. College co-eds are much better looking than minor league groupies.

College ball would be the choice every time unless it's really life changing money. Even then, it's a long discussion.
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I agree with everything you stated. A college education is certainly worth more than $500k over a lifetime. However, I based my number on what I thought it would take to play in the minors for three years and have enough left for a college education if it didn't work out. If I really did the math, I'd probably be light. Closer to $1M would be my comfort level for one of my children.
 
#65
#65
If you spend 5+ years bouncing around the minors, it's awful hard to go back to college for four years. A lot of higher draft picks get the college education built into the original contract but it's still hard to be starting school when all of your friends are out working and making a living.

I would think $2M would be the magic number but even with that, it'd be a tough decision. Hard enough to take your 18 yr old off to college much less leaving them in an apartment in a small town in the Appalachian league, Montana, or some other remote place with no supervision and wild teammates.
 
#66
#66
Backwards K said:
If you spend 5+ years bouncing around the minors, it's awful hard to go back to college for four years. A lot of higher draft picks get the college education built into the original contract but it's still hard to be starting school when all of your friends are out working and making a living.

I would think $2M would be the magic number but even with that, it'd be a tough decision. Hard enough to take your 18 yr old off to college much less leaving them in an apartment in a small town in the Appalachian league, Montana, or some other remote place with no supervision and wild teammates.
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There's wisdom in your words but I'd also argue that there are many 18 year olds that don't take their education opportunity seriously. Most that go back to school at 21 or 22 apply themselves and have a better understanding of what they actually want to do in life.
 
#67
#67
Backwards K said:
If you spend 5+ years bouncing around the minors, it's awful hard to go back to college for four years. A lot of higher draft picks get the college education built into the original contract but it's still hard to be starting school when all of your friends are out working and making a living.

I would think $2M would be the magic number but even with that, it'd be a tough decision. Hard enough to take your 18 yr old off to college much less leaving them in an apartment in a small town in the Appalachian league, Montana, or some other remote place with no supervision and wild teammates.
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All drafts get education built in regardless of the spot if they have eligibility left


Now I agree very few go back to school
 
#68
#68
Everybody is making good points and let's face it, what might be the best for one kid might not be the best for another. That said...

If my son were drafted in the first round...Go! Not because it's life changing money, but because the team is heavily invested and it's in their best interest for you to succeed. If you decide to go to college, the chances that you drop out of the first round are a lot better than improving your stock and of course, you could get injured. Gotta go.

The drop off between those that make it to the bigs from the first round to the second is pretty drastic and I certainly wouldn't feel as comfortable, but I'd be okay with it.

It's the third and fourth round where it would be a painful decision, after that I'd prefer he go the college route. If he got drafted in the third, fourth round we'd just have to sit down and have a heart to heart, hopefully we've already done that and come to a decision before the draft, a number where he, me and ma are comfortable, 90th pick, middle of the third round...below that it's school or something like that and try to blow off the glamour of "being drafted" and not let our emotions takeover whether the result is good, or bad.

Ultimately, he's going to do what he wants to do and of course it's his life, I certainly wouldn't want my now 24 year old son to be angry that ma and I didn't allow him to pursue his dream. It's a tough one.

If my son doesn't pick up a bat and glove pretty soon, I won't have to worry about it at all. I'll let yawl know in 11 years how it turns out. :)
 
#69
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#70
#70
BruinVol said:
All drafts get education built in regardless of the spot if they have eligibility left


Now I agree very few go back to school
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Even a 36th rounder? I knew higher picks did but I was unaware about the later rounds.
 
#71
#71
OldTimer said:
Even a 36th rounder? I knew higher picks did but I was unaware about the later rounds.
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Yes. Pretty sure it's part of the mlb rules now. How much $ can sometimes be tricky but it's usually based on the school signed with or left
 
#73
#73
BruinVol said:
Yes. Pretty sure it's part of the mlb rules now. How much $ can sometimes be tricky but it's usually based on the school signed with or left
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No. It's negotiated for each player. Some get nothing. Some get enough to go to the private or out of state college they had signed with. Some only get enough to go to an in-state school where they're from.

I know a 6th rounder out of HS who negotiated down to the deadline and turned down a slot bonus because the MLB scholarship money wasn't what he decided he needed.
 
#75
#75
matts42012 said:
Alright, final predictions!!! Who stays for the vols??
Who goes???
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I say that Stewart is the only junior who leaves. Simcox will be back. I lean to thinking Lee is back but with his medical history he may decide now is the time. All other draft eligible Vols should not even consider leaving.
 
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