'24 MO DL Williams Nwaneri (Mizzou commit)

[DaddyChad]

OU fans saying Mizzou ponied up $700k per year for Williams Nwaneri fwiw

-AP

And now I begin to understand why Auburn is recruiting so well. Bc they aren’t going to let a pesky thing like rules stop them from paying someone early.

 

[therickbol]

I’m not an attorney but Not sure this law could stand up if seriously challenged. It does appear to limit a persons options & restrict other states from competing with Missouri schools.

Yeah I will be interested to see if that law can stand up to the Interstate commerce clause. I good lawyer and thoughtful judge could certainly argue that law is unconstitutional. Missouri state government is not allowed to regulate commerce among states and that law certainly effects the businesses outside Missouri that are trying to operate inside the state. Tennessee tried to limit people outside of Tennessee from being able to get a liquor license with a 2 year residency requirement. The Supreme Court told us to throw the law out. I think it could be argued with a similar precedent.

 

[VflPT22]

It was mentioned he is not a mid term enrollee so it isn’t only 4 months but sept-June..big difference

 

[butchna]

I low key hate Oklahoma.

Lost something he didn’t need.

 

[cncchris33]

It was mentioned he is not a mid term enrollee so it isn’t only 4 months but sept-June..big difference

Isn't that only a necessary distinction if he wants to stay eligible for a winter or spring sport, though? What is stopping him from earning money for his name, image, and likeness during that period, otherwise? Does he play another sport? If not, it would seem that as soon as football season was over, he could start collecting, so we are still really only talking about a four-month period (Sept-Dec).

 

[CaliVol2009]

Missouri win total went from 6-7 to 6-7

Hahhahhahhaahaa

 

[volinokc]

I low key hate Oklahoma.

Don’t hide your hate. Let it shine.

 

[LowKey]

I low key hate Oklahoma.

 

[LouderVol]

I’m not an attorney but Not sure this law could stand up if seriously challenged. It does appear to limit a persons options & restrict other states from competing with Missouri schools.

No it really doesn't. This is just sour grapes.

the law doesn't say anything about other schools or players from other states. The law doesn't ban other states from having similar laws, or recruiting players from Missouri. It just expands what is allowed in Missouri, thats it.

Missouri passed a law about what Missouri kids could do when they commit to a Missouri school. Its basically just a law formalizing their high school football eligibility post NIL. Tennessee could pass the exact same law tomorrow, but for anyone committing to a Tennessee school, and the Missouri law couldn't stop us or interfere.

It would be a limit if it included rulings on other states, or other schools. but it doesn't. Missouri is literally incapable of passing a law that would allow this ruling to effect other states or schools. It does help Missouri schools, but it doesn't do anything negative against other states or schools. those states and schools can adapt just as easily as Missouri did.

 

[InVOLuntary]

No it really doesn't. This is just sour grapes.

the law doesn't say anything about other schools or players from other states. The law doesn't ban other states from having similar laws, or recruiting players from Missouri. It just expands what is allowed in Missouri, thats it.

Missouri passed a law about what Missouri kids could do when they commit to a Missouri school. Its basically just a law formalizing their high school football eligibility post NIL. Tennessee could pass the exact same law tomorrow, but for anyone committing to a Tennessee school, and the Missouri law couldn't stop us or interfere.

It would be a limit if it included rulings on other states, or other schools. but it doesn't. Missouri is literally incapable of passing a law that would allow this ruling to effect other states or schools. It does help Missouri schools, but it doesn't do anything negative against other states or schools. those states and schools can adapt just as easily as Missouri did.

To me this parallels lottery scholarships. The TN lottery only benefits residents of the state of Tennessee.

 

[Voluble2]

No it really doesn't. This is just sour grapes.

the law doesn't say anything about other schools or players from other states. The law doesn't ban other states from having similar laws, or recruiting players from Missouri. It just expands what is allowed in Missouri, thats it.

Missouri passed a law about what Missouri kids could do when they commit to a Missouri school. Its basically just a law formalizing their high school football eligibility post NIL. Tennessee could pass the exact same law tomorrow, but for anyone committing to a Tennessee school, and the Missouri law couldn't stop us or interfere.

It would be a limit if it included rulings on other states, or other schools. but it doesn't. Missouri is literally incapable of passing a law that would allow this ruling to effect other states or schools. It does help Missouri schools, but it doesn't do anything negative against other states or schools. those states and schools can adapt just as easily as Missouri did.

We would have to see the text of the law to know, but the descriptions that have been provided state that it allows NIL deals only for kids who sign with a MO university. If it does not also allow such deals with universities and collectives in other states then it will likely run afoul of the commerce clause.

And limiting how people can use their name, image and likeness was what was struck down by the courts originally so there is that aspect too should there be any sort of restriction of condition put in place by the law. If all it does is allow certain arrangements in MO, without disallowing them between MO athletes and other states, or predicating them on signing with a MO college, then it will likely pass muster.

 

[valoisvol]

Damn .... what a waste by going to Missouri Tigers ....

He left out bags of money

 

[sjt18]

No it really doesn't. This is just sour grapes.

the law doesn't say anything about other schools or players from other states. The law doesn't ban other states from having similar laws, or recruiting players from Missouri. It just expands what is allowed in Missouri, thats it.

Missouri passed a law about what Missouri kids could do when they commit to a Missouri school. Its basically just a law formalizing their high school football eligibility post NIL. Tennessee could pass the exact same law tomorrow, but for anyone committing to a Tennessee school, and the Missouri law couldn't stop us or interfere.

It would be a limit if it included rulings on other states, or other schools. but it doesn't. Missouri is literally incapable of passing a law that would allow this ruling to effect other states or schools. It does help Missouri schools, but it doesn't do anything negative against other states or schools. those states and schools can adapt just as easily as Missouri did.

Could schools from out of state pay Missouri recruits early under the law? It would seem that anyone could do it. Wouldn't the vulnerability be that it limits payments to only kids who commit in state?

 

[WillisWG]

Could schools from out of state pay Missouri recruits early under the law? It would seem that anyone could do it. Wouldn't the vulnerability be that it limits payments to only kids who commit in state?

As written no, it applies only to only instate which is where I think there are constitutional issues. Restricting/limiting one's ability to earn only to instate doesn't seem to pass the sniff test. I believe this section will be challenged and likely overturned.

16. (1) A high school athlete who competes on an interscholastic athletic team in 241 this state that is sponsored by a public school or by a private school whose students 242 compete against a public school's students may earn or attempt to earn compensation 243 from the use of such athlete's name, image, likeness rights, or athletic reputation as 244 provided in this section, subject to the following: 245 (a) A high school athlete shall have the right to discuss earning or attempting to 246 earn such compensation before signing an athletic letter of intent or other written 247 agreement only when having discussions about potential enrollment with a 248 postsecondary educational institution in this state; and 249 (b) A high school athlete shall have the right to earn or attempt to earn such 250 compensation only after signing an athletic letter of intent or other written agreement to 251 enroll in a postsecondary educational institution in this state. 252 (2) The discussion of, or earning or attempting to earn, compensation from the 253 use of such high school athlete's name, image, likeness rights, or athletic reputation as 254 provided in this section shall not be construed to be a violation of any rules and 255 regulations a high school student and high schools are required to follow to maintain 256 and protect a high school athlete's high school eligibility to participate in high school 257 athletics in this state

Bill Text: MO HB417 | 2023 | Regular Session | Enrolled | LegiScan

 

[cherokeeeVOL]

Listening to Swain and his take is we better hope that states like Georgia, Florida, and/or Texas don't pass a law like this.

 

[JCVol00]

Listening to Swain and his take is we better hope that states like Georgia, Florida, and/or Texas don't pass a law like this.

It’s bound to happen honestly

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

Listening to Swain and his take is we better hope that states like Georgia, Florida, and/or Texas don't pass a law like this.

-Uga doesn’t really tlk upfront nil to recruits (kirby) lol
-Texas has landed a lot in-state talent historically and will continue to do so (mute point)
-Florida balked on jaden and napier is sun belt billy lol

Tennessee will be perfectly fine as long as it has a competent head coach

 

[Orange_Crush]

No it really doesn't. This is just sour grapes.

the law doesn't say anything about other schools or players from other states. The law doesn't ban other states from having similar laws, or recruiting players from Missouri. It just expands what is allowed in Missouri, thats it.

Missouri passed a law about what Missouri kids could do when they commit to a Missouri school. Its basically just a law formalizing their high school football eligibility post NIL. Tennessee could pass the exact same law tomorrow, but for anyone committing to a Tennessee school, and the Missouri law couldn't stop us or interfere.

It would be a limit if it included rulings on other states, or other schools. but it doesn't. Missouri is literally incapable of passing a law that would allow this ruling to effect other states or schools. It does help Missouri schools, but it doesn't do anything negative against other states or schools. those states and schools can adapt just as easily as Missouri did.

There's an inherent ruling on other states. If you commit to them, you can't receive NIL, or you can't play sports in HS.

 

[wmcovol]

There's an inherent ruling on other states. If you commit to them, you can't receive NIL, or you can't play sports in HS.

And this is why I don’t think Mizzou law will stand. Kavanaugh was pretty strong in his ruling about “no restrictions”.

 

[LouderVol]

We would have to see the text of the law to know, but the descriptions that have been provided state that it allows NIL deals only for kids who sign with a MO university. If it does not also allow such deals with universities and collectives in other states then it will likely run afoul of the commerce clause.

And limiting how people can use their name, image and likeness was what was struck down by the courts originally so there is that aspect too should there be any sort of restriction of condition put in place by the law. If all it does is allow certain arrangements in MO, without disallowing them between MO athletes and other states, or predicating them on signing with a MO college, then it will likely pass muster.

the State of Missouri can't pass a law that expands the NIL options in other states.
and the existing law doesn't limit what other states do. There is no such language that you can not get a similar deal in another state. every state can have their own timeline. Missouri just moved theirs up to the start of their season for their own instate players with own instate schools, because anything else, even expanding the dates in other states, WOULD be breaking the INTERSTATE commerce clause. Missouri's laws is purely INTERNAL commerce.
This new change was the 2nd revision, you can find the previous language.
now what might get struck down is if Missouri tries to pass off some of the charitable donation stuff like A&M did. but that is not what people are talking about with Nwaneri or Wingo.

 

[LouderVol]

Could schools from out of state pay Missouri recruits early under the law? It would seem that anyone could do it. Wouldn't the vulnerability be that it limits payments to only kids who commit in state?

not under this law, because this law only covers Missouri.
If another state had the exact same law for their programs, they could give NIL deals to kids from Missouri. This law does not stop that. this law purely defines what Missouri can do in the state of Missouri, for only players from Missouri. It is specifically written to avoid anything to do with other states.

 

[LowKey]

Flip candidate.

 

[LouderVol]

There's an inherent ruling on other states. If you commit to them, you can't receive NIL, or you can't play sports in HS.

yes. simply because the STATE OF MISSOURI CAN NOT PASS A LAW THAT SAYS WHAT IS LEGAL IN ANOTHER STATE. this law does not attempt to say what the state of Tennessee can do. Tennessee could pass its own law that offers more favorable terms and this Missouri law wouldn't stop them.

 

[wmcovol]

yes. simply because the STATE OF MISSOURI CAN NOT PASS A LAW THAT SAYS WHAT IS LEGAL IN ANOTHER STATE. this law does not attempt to say what the state of Tennessee can do. Tennessee could pass its own law that offers more favorable terms and this Missouri law wouldn't stop them.

You’re not listening. The Mizzou law clearly restricts a Missouri resident athlete who choses a university outside of Missouri to earn NIL money while playing their senior HS season but the law allows a HS teammate who signs with a Missouri university to remain eligible & able to earn NIL money. That is the part that is not gonna fly when it hits a federal court.

 

[therickbol]

You’re not listening. The Mizzou law clearly restricts a Missouri resident athlete who choses a university outside of Missouri to earn NIL money while playing their senior HS season but the law allows a HS teammate who signs with a Missouri university to remain eligible & able to earn NIL money. That is the part that is not gonna fly when it hits a federal court.

Yes that is just one angle that can get the statute struck down. The worst part is that they very likely know it will eventually happen. But they know that process will take some time. So temporarily they can get a quick edge.