Moderately Successful Season ..

I'll say his with losing all fire power we lost last year and to have the same record says a lot. The games we lost weren't as bad as last year. We lost by 3 to SC last year beat them this year. Lost by 7 to GA last year, took them to OT this year. 40+ to Candy last year, only 14 this year. I think it wasn't what we wanted for a season but it's sorta what most expected. If Cutflife can make Duke 10-2 with a bunch of 2&3 star kids Butch shouldn't have a problem get us back to the promise land. Time is the key along with recruiting!!!!!
 
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I would disagree that it says alot. I'm not ready to accept that the bar set as low as Dooley set it last year is any kind of reasonable measure for what amounts to a "moderately successful" season. He took what should have been a 9 or 10 win team and won 5. That's not something you use for a standard.
 
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At this point I think everything that can be said has been. Nobody is going to change their mind.

It's time to move on.
 
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I've always been a pretty big fan of Cut and am certainly one of the few that continued to take up for Clawsen after he was let go. I STILL say he was caught in Fulmer's mess and had very little to do with creating it. He thought he had time to tear down the O and rebuild it. He had no idea how shaky Fulmer's situation was.

Sanders stinks as a coordinator. He's a good position coach and very good QB coach... but he's just not a very good OC. I doubt he would make a good HC. The Peter Principle applies with him. He rose to the level of his incompetence. Fulmer kept him there in part because Fulmer began to become insecure and didn't like people around him who challenged him.

Don't know if you remember but Fulmer talked about having someone around who would "challenge" him when he hired Clawsen. SOMEONE had told him that he couldn't hire another worker bee... he had to hire someone with talent.

Bowling Green's Dave Clawson and the art of program building - College Football - Pete Thamel - SI.com

This is a great read on Clawson. I liked him to and thought he would become the coach in waiting here if not for what I think was Fulmer being stubborn and not letting him have the offense. I have kept up with him as much as I can since he left and has been successful at Bowling Green and I hope some day he gets his shot at a big time school.
 
Could've had 6-6 with a bowl and the 34 players/ #2 class.

You could have done better than that had Butch not botched the UGA game. He had an opportunity to kick a field goal at the end of the first half and let UGA run the clock out. And he killed our first drive of the second half by cussing out the refs and getting us into a 2nd and 25 on the first drive.

I just hope he can find a good defensive coordinator this off season that can at least teach this team how to tackle. We were horrible.
 
Bowling Green's Dave Clawson and the art of program building - College Football - Pete Thamel - SI.com

This is a great read on Clawson. I liked him to and thought he would become the coach in waiting here if not for what I think was Fulmer being stubborn and not letting him have the offense. I have kept up with him as much as I can since he left and has been successful at Bowling Green and I hope some day he gets his shot at a big time school.

i live by bowling green and you are right clawson is doing a pretty good job. the falcons are more fun to watch than the vols these days. almost beat miss. st and playing in the mac champ game. i think northern illinois has to much for them though.
 
Just from what I have seen, the O and D philosophies of Clawson and Jones appear similar with DC being a bit more of a risk taker. Neither is a gambler like Miles.
 

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