More Climate BS...

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hog88 said:
With you, I'll discuss anything.
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Thanks.

There currently exists several places on the planet that are at sea level or below and even a well known city in Italy where the "streets" are canals. Correct?
 
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McDad said:
It seems to me one person's "drastic" is another person's "mundane".

What rate of rise would you consider drastic?
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Yeah, well, I mean to me if your doing few cms a year it probably isn't a huge problem. Inches per year could be life changing for certain area over time. But on the other hand, isn't that nature as well? Also, if we were talking inches a year that doesn't mean that is a trend that will or can continue.

Let's say the sea level changes inches per year, why is that bad per se for the planet. The problem is... they are trying to manufacture an effect and than come up with a false cause for the effect they created.

My question is... haven't the sea levels always been in flux?

Its a scam... its been a scam for well over 100+ years. Now with that said, there is pollution and humans can wreck some stuff but that is more of a logical discussion I would be on board with.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I don't care about the data or research because you are unwilling to show the "effect". Why do I need data from some third party when you can just show the effect?
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I don't expect you to read this, but I will post it anyway for $hits and giggles.

mynasadata.larc.nasa.gov

Coastal Consequences of Sea Level Rise | My NASA Data

The ocean's surface is not level, and sea levels change in response to changes in chemistry and temperature. Sophisticated satellite measurements are required for scientists to document current sea level rise. This module explores the evidence for sea level rise related to global climate change...
mynasadata.larc.nasa.gov mynasadata.larc.nasa.gov
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't expect you to read this, but I will post it anyway for $hits and giggles.

mynasadata.larc.nasa.gov

Coastal Consequences of Sea Level Rise | My NASA Data

The ocean's surface is not level, and sea levels change in response to changes in chemistry and temperature. Sophisticated satellite measurements are required for scientists to document current sea level rise. This module explores the evidence for sea level rise related to global climate change...
mynasadata.larc.nasa.gov mynasadata.larc.nasa.gov
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No, because all of old predictions didn't come true.... predicting something isn't a fact. If the sea levels were rapidly rising you would realistic have effect. I am not even sure why a rising sea level isn't nature at work?
 
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hog88 said:
Correct
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Now we're cooking.

Those places, some going back thousands of years, had ports then and they have ports now.

How is it possible with seas rising at 40 cm per century, or 400cm per millennia (about 13 feet) that these places had functional ports several millennia ago and also have functional ports today?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yeah, well, I mean to me if your doing few cms a year it probably isn't a huge problem. Inches per year could be life changing for certain area over time. But on the other hand, isn't that nature as well? Also, if we were talking inches a year that doesn't mean that is a trend that will or can continue.

Let's say the sea level changes inches per year, why is that bad per se for the planet. The problem is... they are trying to manufacture an effect and than come up with a false cause for the effect they created.

My question is... haven't the sea levels always been in flux?

Its a scam... its been a scam for well over 100+ years. Now with that said, there is pollution and humans can wreck some stuff but that is more of a logical discussion I would be on board with.
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I am unaware of any resource which predicts a rate of sea level rise at inches per year.

I believe sea levels have always been changing since our planet was formed.
 
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McDad said:
I am unaware of any resource which predicts a rate of sea level rise at inches per year.

I believe sea levels have always been changing since our planet was formed.
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Yeah, I am saying that would be drastic to me.

I agree with your second statement. The world is always changing and always has.

They're like... the sea level is rising.... I'm like cool. They're like.... the sea level is going down... I'm like cool. 😂
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yeah, I am saying that would be drastic to me.

I agree with your second statement. The world is always changing and always has.

They're like... the sea level is rising.... I'm like cool. They're like.... the sea level is going down... I'm like cool. 😂
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Inches per year would be dramatic. But it wouldn't be a catastrophe. People can and do respond to threats by taking action. Your home place and McRib's favorite city in Louisiana is proof positive of this undeniable truth. Levees, dykes, lifting building and infrastructure, or even accepting the water and making it a unique place (like Venice) are a small list of responses to sea level rise.
 
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McDad said:
Now we're cooking.

Those places, some going back thousands of years, had ports then and they have ports now.

How is it possible with seas rising at 40 cm per century, or 400cm per millennia (about 13 feet) that these places had functional ports several millennia ago and also have functional ports today?
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Sea walls and other flood mitigation measures?
 
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McDad said:
I am unaware of any resource which predicts a rate of sea level rise at inches per year.

I believe sea levels have always been changing since our planet was formed.
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Fractions of inches, or millimeters.

To be exact, relying on satellite measurements (which @LSU-SIU claimed couldn't be done).... scientists have measured the rate of sea-level rise at 0.13 inches or 3.4 millimeters per year since 1993. That is an accelerated rate to what had previously been the case.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Fractions of inches, or millimeters.

To be exact, relying on satellite measurements (which @LSU-SIU claimed couldn't be done).... scientists have measured the rate of sea-level rise at 0.13 inches or 3.4 millimeters per year since 1993. That is an accelerated rate to what had previously been the case.
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I never claimed it couldn't be done. I said you have no effect. If you had sea levels change in feet(s) like you are claiming or implying vast parts of southern Louisiana simply would not exist.

Where should the sea levels be?
 
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hog88 said:
Sea walls and other flood mitigation measures?
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Al true. They have also rebuilt ports.

And there's the reality of the CC fearmongering. All those predictions assume we are cattle unable and unwilling to respond to our changing world.

Additionally, those places make allowances for maintenance and repair of ports even if they are more frequently damaged due to storms, floods, etc.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Fractions of inches, or millimeters.

To be exact, relying on satellite measurements (which @LSU-SIU claimed couldn't be done).... scientists have measured the rate of sea-level rise at 0.13 inches or 3.4 millimeters per year since 1993. That is an accelerated rate to what had previously been the case.
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I am looking for measurables which are much longer than 30 years. Which, i think it like a millisecond in geologic time. Too brief to be of any value.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Fractions of inches, or millimeters.

To be exact, relying on satellite measurements (which @LSU-SIU claimed couldn't be done).... scientists have measured the rate of sea-level rise at 0.13 inches or 3.4 millimeters per year since 1993. That is an accelerated rate to what had previously been the case.
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Way too short of a sample size to be concerned about.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, you did.

You have since deleted it, but your initial reply was, "How would satellites measure sea levels?" You even put an "LOL" on the end of it, as though I had said something stupid.
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I asked you a question. I never said it couldn't be done. Question still stands as you didn't answer.

Where should the sea levels be by the way?
 
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The problem with these discussions is the whole exercise is not to make sense so they can get what they want.

Nutjob > Man is creating bad stuff and the sea levels are rising.
Me > Okay, where should the sea levels be?
Nutjob > Well, didn't you know that NASA said the sea levels are rising?
Me > Okay, where should the sea levels be?
Nutjob > Well, you just don't believe in science.
Me > I just want to know where the sea levels are suppose to be.
Nutjob > Climate change denier.
Me > Can't you just tell me where the sea levels are suppose to be?

Its an infinite loop of mental health issues that go nowhere.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I asked you a question. I never said it couldn't be done. Question still stands as you didn't answer.

Where should the sea levels be by the way?
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Are you kidding me?

I have posted multiple links explaining how NASA employs satellite technology to measure sea levels and posted another link outlining some coastal consequences for these rising levels.

There is no point to this .... you ask for explanations and examples of effects, but then don't click on what I link.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Are you kidding me?

I have posted multiple links explaining how NASA employs satellite technology to measure sea levels and posted another link outlining some coastal consequences for these rising levels.

There is no point to this .... you ask for explanations and examples of effects, but then don't click on what I link.
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I just asked you how they did it, but not that I care. But no I never said it couldn't be done. There is no reason for me to click as there is no effect, on that you are correct.
 
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McDad said:
@hog88, I hope I have adequately explained why i disagree with BB's premise about the threat to global trade due to CC.
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What they want appears to be the Death Star where they can either control or semi-control everything in the environment than they call it Nature. LoL I guess. My guess is Louisiana will be just fine for the rest of my life even though I don't get back there much at all anymore.

Very little climate change here.

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BowlBrother85 said:
I have posted a link which does explain some effects.
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I tell you what, you can go to places people live in Louisiana right on the water which are exactly in the same place they were 100-200 years ago. Places like New Orleans are basically underwater 200 years ago, now in 200 more years it might not exist without humans but that has been the case since the beginning.😂

What should the sea levels be at by the way?
 
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