More Market Failures - Pringles

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#102
lawgator1 said:
[ X ] Thread suffers from mistaken assumption everyone thinks Pringels are the best.
[ X ] Thread suffers from assumption that, even if Pringles are the best, everyone wants exactly Pringles exactly all the time
[ X ] Thread never seemed to have a point
[ X ] Whatever the point was, it inevitably took a back seat to discussion of Pringles cans, better chips, flavored chips, and of course boobs.
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I have never had Pringels before. Are they in the Pringle Family?:crazy:
 
#103
#103
utgibbs said:
I did wonder if Kettle Chips would be widely praised in this thread. I've got to say, I've never met a kettle chip of any variety that was any damn good. Admittedly I don't sample them much since they, without fail, tasted like a$$. They're too hard, they will cut your mouth if you try to eat them like a normal chip, they don't retain the flavor crystals they're suppose to retain. I would love volinbham to give us a lecture on this marketing phenomenon because I'll be damned if kettle chips are any damn good whatsoever.
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So how you personally feel about something, even something as subjective as food, even if overwhelmingly contradicted (the Kettle brand is very well represented in cited taste tests as well as some posters here) by others you have no trouble issuing an edict like "...I'll be damned if kettle chips are any damn good whatsoever.".

An interesting insight having your personal perception = reality. Might want to check outside your back door...I think your yard's flooded and gorillas can't swim.
 
#104
#104
Utz Old Bay chips should be the only brand available if a true chip market actually existed. Clearly they are superior to every other brand
 
#105
#105
utgibbs said:
I still don't get Pringles not being a potato chip, but....

You have just hit on another market failure! How the hell did your industry convince the American consumer it was cool to eat processed cheese food over real cheese?

This was an even better example, volinbham. Many thanks. :hi:
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you are suggesting we eat processed potatoes over real potatoes. you are market failure
 
#106
#106
crack in a bag
Kettle-BuffaloBleu.jpg
 
#108
#108
hndog609 said:
So how you personally feel about something, even something as subjective as food, even if overwhelmingly contradicted (the Kettle brand is very well represented in cited taste tests as well as some posters here) by others you have no trouble issuing an edict like "...I'll be damned if kettle chips are any damn good whatsoever.".

An interesting insight having your personal perception = reality. Might want to check outside your back door...I think your yard's flooded and gorillas can't swim.
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Actually, I would love to see some market share data. I have a feeling we would find the lowest denominators representin'. It's not even clear they tried Pringles in your taste tests, although it does appear Kettle Chips (inexplicably) have some support.

However, volinbham hit upon an even better example of which I speak. How did people go from eating delicious nutritrious real cheese and "agree" to eat yellow paddies of shiny plastic labelled "processed cheese food"? And this is the real crux.
 
#109
#109
how did people go from eating delicious real potato chips to eating processed potato "slurry" made into pringles?
 
#111
#111
droski said:
how did people go from eating delicious real potato chips to eating processed potato "slurry" made into pringles?
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Pringles are delicious. I bet you make a "potato slurry" a lot - it's called mashed potatoes. Then, when you fry the leftovers, it's called a rosti.

Processed cheese food = a$$ compared to real cheese (is it cheaper or something?), and I know you as the bachanalian gastrom is not going to disagree.

It has less of everything - taste, texture, nutrition. I'm assuming it has lots of great marketing and costs less since sawdust and recycled plastic must be < cow's and goat's milk.
 
#112
#112
I can guarantee my mashed potatoes have more than 42% real potatoes. Can you say the same about your "chips"?
 
#113
#113
utgibbs said:
Pringles are delicious. I bet you make a "potato slurry" a lot - it's called mashed potatoes. Then, when you fry the leftovers, it's called a rosti.

Processed cheese food = a$$ compared to real cheese (is it cheaper or something?), and I know you as the bachanalian gastrom is not going to disagree.

It has less of everything - taste, texture, nutrition. I'm assuming it has lots of great marketing and costs less since sawdust and recycled plastic must be < cow's and goat's milk.
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your make mashed potatoes from 42% potatos? disgusting.


Pringles are not chips in England - Slashfood

The High Court in London decided that Pringles do not count as "crisps" (that's chips to us in the USA) for tax purposes. The VAT (value added tax) in England isn't applied to most foodstuffs, but potato crisps are subject to the tax. Lawyers for Prinlges, however, argued that since they are made from only 42% potato flour and their shape isn't based on anything natural, they are not really crisps and should therefore be exempt from the VAT.

edit: damn utvolpj beat me to it
 
#114
#114
utgibbs said:
Actually, I would love to see some market share data. I have a feeling we would find the lowest denominators representin'. It's not even clear they tried Pringles in your taste tests, although it does appear Kettle Chips (inexplicably) have some support.

However, volinbham hit upon an even better example of which I speak. How did people go from eating delicious nutritrious real cheese and "agree" to eat yellow paddies of shiny plastic labelled "processed cheese food"? And this is the real crux.
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According to this Kettle has a 31% share of the "natural pototo chip market". What'll really kick you in the keaster is they're apparently "green" as hell. (all cooking oil at the WI plant ends up converted to biodiesel, 18 wind turbines, etc)

Kettle Foods Processing Plant - Potato Chip Facility - Food Processing Technology

Regardless your failure is both simple and profound...you don't like something (on a completely personal and subjective basis) and actually think this preference carries weight outside your own sphere of reality based solely on the fact it happens to be your preference.
 
#115
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droski said:
edit: damn utvolpj beat me to it
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it was payback for you beating me to the slurry comment earlier when my boss walked in

still wondering how people deciding to spend their money on one item over another is a market failure. Anyone ever figure that out?
 
#116
#116
utgibbs said:
I did wonder if Kettle Chips would be widely praised in this thread. I've got to say, I've never met a kettle chip of any variety that was any damn good. Admittedly I don't sample them much since they, without fail, tasted like a$$. They're too hard, they will cut your mouth if you try to eat them like a normal chip, they don't retain the flavor crystals they're suppose to retain. I would love volinbham to give us a lecture on this marketing phenomenon because I'll be damned if kettle chips are any damn good whatsoever.
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Sounds like you have a weak mouth and/or an extremely low threshold for pain.
 
#120
#120
Only on volnation.com would we be debating Pringles in the politics forum.

I personally love pringles though but they are nothing compared to a good economy size jar of Cheese Balls from Sam's Club. You want fireworks in your mouth Gibbs :huh: then you haven't experienced anything until you let some cheese balls melt on your tongue.
 
#121
#121
NEOCON said:
Only on volnation.com would we be debating Pringles in the politics forum.

I personally love pringles though but they are nothing compared to a good economy size jar of Cheese Balls from Sam's Club. You want fireworks in your mouth Gibbs :huh: then you haven't experienced anything until you let some cheese balls melt on your tongue.
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if any of you guys has a cosco by you. they sell kettle corn in a huge bag and it's the best kettle corn from a company i've had. great stuff.
 
#122
#122
volinbham said:
I seem to remember Cheese Doodles being an example of cheap tat.
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They are cheap tat. As is "processed cheese food."

This thread has been very interesting. And I thank everyone for their input.

I was thinking the Kettle Chip phenom was all about marketing (since they taste like a$$ and cut your mouth). However, at 30% of the "natural chip market" (not sure how to qualify) they either have something going for them or it's terribly effective marketing. As we know, about 20% of the population is highly susceptible to marketing. VBH might have some insight on the numbers for highly effective marketing.

I've been highly trained in SERE, but why anyone would eat razor blades marketed as "natural chips" is a real puzzle. Same goes for processed cheese food over real cheese.

It must be one of three market failures (or combo of both):

1. Depressed wages
2. Marketing (which is the tool to defeat efficient markets)
3. Monopoly power (hence, the "micro", natural, smokin' good chips aren't top market earners)
 
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