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Isn't this more a problem for the military operations than Obama, personally ?
2 new developments:
1. Warnings sounded one month prior that consulate was vulnerable to coordinated attack - Libyan militia that was supposed to protect was not trustworthy and infiltrated by anti-American Islamic militants
2. Obama briefed on Sept 10 RE: 9/11 terror threats.
At 8:30 pm Benghazi time U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens steps outside the consulate to say goodbye to a Turkish diplomat. There are no protesters at this time. (Everything is calm at 8:30, a State Department official would later say at an Oct. 9 background briefing for reporters. Theres nothing unusual. There has been nothing unusual during the day at all outside.)
At Approximately 8:40 p.m. A security agent at the Benghazi compound hears loud noises coming from the front gate and gunfire and an explosion. A senior State Department official at the Oct. 9 briefing says that the camera on the main gate reveals a large number of people a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound.
The above information is crucial for a number of reasons. First, because the administration spent the next two weeks saying that this was a protest that ended up escalating out of control. Lets just forget the video (for a moment), was there a protest at all? If so, why was everything calm and nothing unusual? Exactly how long does it take for a protest to form and then escalate out of control? The security element had cameras on the gate and the first mention of anything was when there was gunfire and an explosion. That sounds a lot like a mob moving into the compound.
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Lets ask a simple question how well armed does a mob have to be to storm an embassy, fight off Libyan guard forces, then reflect U.S. security personnel, then mount an offensive against the U.S. security personnel in a separate building with heavy fire for two hours, and win all of those fights?
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Even with all of the above information, Sec. Clinton released the following statement on the day of the attack:
Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind. (emphasis mine)
September 13th:
Sec. Clinton condemned the video and still refused to call it a terror attack. Obama reiterates Clintons video response almost verbatim. Every news media outlet starts covering the Innocence of Muslims video that the world knew little about racks up millions of hits through various posters between September12th through the 14th. Some of the video names are under titles and descriptions Video that caused Libya attacks. The focus was on the video, the protest, and the response seemed adequate since it couldnt have been foreseen.
Then an unnamed State Department Official released this whopper to CNN:
It was not an innocent mob The video or 9/11 made a handy excuse and could be fortuitous from their perspective but this was a clearly planned military-type attack.
This flew in the face of the stance from this administration something they werent prepared for.
September 14th
The language began to change ever so slightly. Now the administration was referring to the attack as an act of ugly terror but still denies that it was preplanned. Carney responds to the State Departments release that afternoon saying, I have seen that report, and the story is absolutely wrong. We were not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent. That report is false. He follows up with the familiar conclusion that it was still a protest to the said video.
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September 15th
In his weekly address Obama doesnt refer to a planned attack, a terrorist attack, or an act of terror but he does, again, reference the video and calls the attackers a very angry mob.
September 16th
Libya President Mohamed Magariaf says on CBS News Face the Nation that the attack on the U.S. consulate had been planned for months. Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, in defiance, tells CBS News Bob Schieffer: We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.
September 17th
Language change number 2 the words initial assessment are being used to explain questions about Benghazi. This would continue for the next two weeks in an obvious attempt to lessen the responsibility.
September 18th
Obama tells Letterman that the attack was a response to the video (1 week out).
In response to Magariaf statement about the attack being preplanned, White House Spokesperson begins language change number 3 saying that they would rather wait for the investigation to be completed. A great irony since they didnt wait to say that it was a protest (which was false) or that it was a response to the film (which was false).
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September 19th
Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center calls the act a terrorist attack but continues to deny any planning was evident. In response, Carney invokes all language changes saying, Based on the information we had at the time we have now, we do not yet have indication that it was preplanned or premeditated. Theres an active investigation. If that active investigation produces facts that lead to a different conclusion, we will make clear that thats where the investigation has led.
September 20th
In a town hall meeting Obama backs up but still invokes language changes, Well, were still doing an investigation, and there are going to be different circumstances in different countries. And so I dont want to speak to something until we have all the information. What we do know is that the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests. (emphasis mine)
September 21st
Sec. Clinton calls the attack a terrorist attack.
September 24th
Sec. Clinton again calls the attack a terrorist assault. President Obama, however, doesnt get the message and on The View (thats right, Letterman and The View) he again references the response to the video, protests, and pleads language change number 2 when asked about whether or not it was a terrorist attack; Were still doing an investigation.
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Fast forward to November the administration spent an entire month making excuses as to why they didnt know. The President said that they gave us the best information they had throughout. Sec. Clinton later blamed the fog of war for their lack of clarity.
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Sadly, we had assets all over the area that were ready to be deployed, but never requested for. These two men died to a mortar shell at 4:00am 7 freaking hours after the first shot!
If this is true then this is truly criminal. How in Gods name does this happen? How does the administration, who obviously knew the information above, still go on for weeks claiming this was a protest mob gone awry?
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Sadly, we had assets all over the area that were ready to be deployed, but never requested for. These two men died to a mortar shell at 4:00am 7 freaking hours after the first shot!
If this is true then this is truly criminal. How in Gods name does this happen? How does the administration, who obviously knew the information above, still go on for weeks claiming this was a protest mob gone awry?
Travis McGee is a fictional character in John McDonald's novels.
..... are absolutely certain based on very well-sourced information that two media outlets one a network do indeed have emails proving the Obama White House gave orders to stand down during the terror attack in Benghazi.
Beck said it is incumbent upon those media outlets to release the information and provide Americans with the truth, rather than shield the president. If they refrain from doing so, Beck said he will expose them.
Later on in the segment, Beck also broached (Facebooks censoring) of the Special Operations Speaks (SOS) PAC. Facebook ordered the group to take down an anti-Obama meme about Benghazi and when they didnt comply, the account was suspended for 24 hours.
I think he is, but I don't really know what he thinks. He bends over backwards to avoid anything looking bad against Muslims.
Sarsour has been invited to at least seven White House meetings since April 2010, records show. All but one were with Paul Monteiro, associate director of the White House Office of Public Engagement. The most recent meeting took place seven months ago. Last week, the Investigative Project on Terrorism reported on hundreds of White House meetings involving radical Islamists like Sarsour.
Sarsour, director of the Arab American Association of New York, is on record defending terror suspects, casting skepticism over law enforcement investigations and advancing conspiracy theories. Despite her access to the administration, Sarsour describes support for President Obama as a "lesser of two evils" proposition for Muslim voters.
She also believes there is a government conspiracy against Muslims and that the authorities were behind Malcolm X's assassination. During a Feb. 23, 2012 interview with Russia TV, Sarsour claimed that "Islamophobia" today is a continuation of the genocide of native Americans and the slavery of African Americans. "This has happened throughout the history of our country; our country was based on, you know, genocide on native Americans, based on slavery, racial profiling has existed for centuries in this community," she said.
During the same interview, Sarsour cast Malcolm X's assassination as part of a New York Police Department conspiracy which uses informants in the same way today. "As a matter of fact, on the chief body guard of Malcolm X was an NYPD informant," she said, "and we know that Malcolm X was assassinated in cooperation with the government, so it's very, for me it's just a continuation of history."
The occult hand of government lurks behind many corners in Sarsour's world. In May, she dismissed reports about an al-Qaida plot to blow up an airplane using a more sophisticated, more difficult to detect, underwear bomb. Rather than celebrate this outcome, Sarsour leapt to a false conclusion, claiming that in a May 8 Twitter post that it was a CIA inside job.
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In fact, the bomb plot was quite real. The would-be terrorist turned out to be an informant for Saudi intelligence. When he took possession of the bomb, he promptly gave it to his handlers, averting a deadly attack and giving Saudi and American intelligence a chance to dissect the latest attempt for terrorists to evade security. Because he had travel papers and seemed willing to be a suicide bomber, the Washington Post called the informant "a perfect dangle, in the parlance of spycraft, and al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula took the bait."
That, to Sarsour, is bad.
But it fits with her view that there is "War on Islam" led by the United States. That narrative is considered among the most effective messages in radicalizing young Muslims.
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The record does little to bolster Sarsour's argument.
Hashmi pleaded guilty to conspiring to provide material support to al-Qaida. Siddiqui, known as "Lady al-Qaida," was convicted of attempting to assault and murder American officers in Afghanistan. Prosecutors say she grabbed an Army officer's M-4 rifle and fired it at another officer and other members of a U.S. interview team at an Afghan police compound in July 2008. And the Second District Court of Appeals upheld Matin Siraj's conviction in connection to a plot to blow up the Herald Square subway station.
But it is her Palestinian advocacy that seems to set Sarsour most at odds with American policy and ideals. She expressed misgivings about Saddam Hussein's 2003 capture by American forces in Iraq, saying she felt humiliated by his appearance because he was a hero to Palestinians. ""I think he's done a lot of things he shouldn't have done, but I was hurt. My Arab pride was hurt," she said. "Palestinians are under so much oppression and no other Arab country ever helped them."
There is little in Sarsour's record to indicate introspection about Palestinian actions that have made peace more difficult to attain. She does not condemn Hamas leadership, its history of suicide terrorism or its indiscriminate firing of rockets at Israeli communities.
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Sarsour, the White House "Champion of Change," directed her followers to this message twice on Wednesday. It's certainly within her right.
But any notion that she's a responsible and moderate voice for the Muslim community, one worthy of access to the halls of power, ignores a darker, extreme record.
Sounds more like a HollyWood movie called 'Rambo' to me
New Benghazi Account Bolsters CIA - Yahoo! News
New Benghazi Account Bolsters CIA
By Martha Raddatz | ABC OTUS News 14 mins ago
"There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support," said the official. The official's comments appeared to be a direct rebuttal of a Fox News report that CIA teams on the ground had been told by superior officers to "stand down" from providing security support to the consulate.
According to the official, upon learning of the attack at the consulate, the security team at the annex responded "as quickly and effectively as possible."
CBS News has learned that during the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG).
For the seventh night in a row, ABCs World News, CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News refused to give one single second of coverage to the Obama administrations deceitful response to the terrorist attack on the US consulate in Benghazi on September 11. According to the Media Research Center, the last time Benghazi was discussed on one of the flagship network evening news casts was the October 25 edition of CBS Evening News.
Since then, ABC News and CBS News have relegated coverage of the Benghazi terrorist attack to their websites. Jake Tappers November 1 report for ABC News landed on the Drudge Report, while a post from CBS News Sharyl Atkisson that same day was picked up by Real Clear Politics. But the millions of viewers who tune in to ABCs World News and CBS Evening News were not permitted to hear these stories on the evening broadcasts.
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....... For the seventh night in a row, ABCs World News, CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News refused to give one single second of coverage to the Obama administrations deceitful response to the terrorist attack on the US consulate in Benghazi on September 11. According to the Media Research Center, the last time Benghazi was discussed on one of the flagship network evening news casts was the October 25 edition of CBS Evening News.
Since then, ABC News and CBS News have relegated coverage of the Benghazi terrorist attack to their websites. Jake Tappers November 1 report for ABC News landed on the Drudge Report, while a post from CBS News Sharyl Atkisson that same day was picked up by Real Clear Politics. But the millions of viewers who tune in to ABCs World News and CBS Evening News were not permitted to hear these stories on the evening broadcasts.
President Obama sat on his thumbs as the Benghazi consulate burned.
FOX Nation reported, via Maggies Farm:
The United States had an unmanned Predator drone over its consulate in Benghazi during the attack that slaughtered four Americans which should have led to a quicker military response, it was revealed yesterday.
They stood, and they watched, and our people died, former CIA commander Gary Berntsen told CBS News.
The network reported that the drone and other reconnaissance aircraft observed the final hours of the hours-long siege on Sept. 11 obtaining information that should have spurred swift action.
But as Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three colleagues were killed by terrorists armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenade launchers, Defense Department officials were too slow to send in the troops, Berntsen said.
They made zero adjustments in this. You find a way to make this happen, he fumed.
There isnt a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments.
The Pentagon said it moved a team of special operators from Central Europe to Sigonella, Italy about an hour flight from Libya but gave no other details.
Fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships which could have been used to help disperse the bloodthirsty mob were also stationed at three nearby bases, sources told the network.
No, bottom line is a US Ambassador is a personal representative of the President. The department is run by the Secretary of State, however, once they lost contact with Ambassador Stevens it became a problem for the President.
Also, attacks on US facilities overseas are the same as attacks on the United States. The President swore an oath to defend the United States...
This was a predictable attack, with sufficient intelligence to indicate it was a viable threat.
2 new developments:
1. Warnings sounded one month prior that consulate was vulnerable to coordinated attack - Libyan militia that was supposed to protect was not trustworthy and infiltrated by anti-American Islamic militants
2. Obama briefed on Sept 10 RE: 9/11 terror threats.
New Benghazi Account Bolsters CIA - Yahoo! News
New Benghazi Account Bolsters CIA
By Martha Raddatz | ABC OTUS News 14 mins ago
"There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support," said the official. The official's comments appeared to be a direct rebuttal of a Fox News report that CIA teams on the ground had been told by superior officers to "stand down" from providing security support to the consulate.
According to the official, upon learning of the attack at the consulate, the security team at the annex responded "as quickly and effectively as possible."
You knew the timeline released by the CIA on Friday would be self serving, but how accurate was it?
Fox News reports - not very:
According to the CIA, the first calls for assistance came at 9:40 p.m. local time from a senior State Department official at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, to the CIA annex about a mile away.
But according to multiple people on the ground that night, the Blue Mountain Security manager, who was in charge of the local force hired to guard the consulate perimeter, made calls on both two-way radios and cell phones to colleagues in Benghazi warning of problems at least an hour earlier. Those calls allegedly went to local security contractors who say that the CIA annex was also notified much earlier than 9:40 p.m. U.S. military intelligence also told Fox News that armed militia was gathering up to three hours before the attack began.
One source said the Blue Mountain Security chief seemed "distraught" and said "the situation here is very serious, we have a problem." He also said that even without these phone and radio calls, it was clear to everyone in the security community on the ground in Benghazi much earlier than 9:40 p.m. that fighters were gathering in preparation for an attack.
Many of these security contractors and intelligence sources on the ground in Benghazi met twice a week for informal meetings at the consulate with Blue Mountain and consulate staff, and at times other international officials. They were all very familiar with security at the consulate -- and said the staff seemed "complacent" and "didn't seem to follow the normal American way of securing a facility."
Both American and British sources say multiple roadblocks set up by fighters believed to be with Ansar al-Sharia were in place in Benghazi several hours before the 9:40 p.m. timeline and that communications also alluded to "heavily armed troops showing up with artillery." Fox News was told by both American and British contacts who were in Benghazi that night that the CIA timeline rolled out this past week is only "loosely based on the truth" and "doesn't quite add up."
Fox News was also told that the local guard force meant to protect the consulate perimeter "panicked" and didn't know what to do as the attackers took up positions. Sources say other guards simply "walked away."
More detail on "terror attack" waffling by administration. Romney was correct about this one - he just worded it poorly.
CBS Releases Unaired Footage Of Obama Refusing To Call Benghazi A Terror Attack | RealClearPolitics
Protestors outside an Obama campaign appearance in Cincinnati, Ohio, yesterday held signs calling the mainstream media missing in action when it comes to coverage of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya. CBS seems to have made tiny steps away from covering for and toward covering the administrations controversial handling of the tragedy, just yesterday releasing yet another unaired excerpt from the presidents Sept. 12 interview.
Fox News Bret Baier was among the first and only journalists to compile a timeline of the events in Benghazi, and he provides an analysis of the newly released video as well.
see my last tweet for video-but here's my analysis of the just released 60 mins Benghazi question almost 6 weeks later:
politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/11/05/wha
Bret Baier (@BretBaier) November 05, 2012
In the video, CBSs Steve Kroft asks the president directly if he considered the attack in Benghazi terrorism.
Kroft: Mr. President, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the Libya Attack, do you believe that this was a terrorism attack?
Obama: Well its too early to tell exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans. And we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice, one way or the other.
During the second presidential debate, the president insisted that he had called the attack terrorism the morning of Sept. 12 in a Rose Garden appearance a claim famously backed up by moderator Candy Crowley, yet contradicted by the Kroft interview.
Unreleased clip of Obama's 9/12 interview seems to change things re: insisting he called Libya terrorism immediately. ow.ly/f1HDj
Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) November 05, 2012
In new 60 Minutes clips released by CBS Obama refuses to call Benghazi attack terrorism when asked directly. politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/11/05/wha
Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) November 05, 2012
So, why the slow drip of information from CBS?
To @CBSNews and @60Minutes: Why did you not release complete Obama Benghazi material until now?
Byron York (@ByronYork) November 05, 2012
And CBS held it, why? RT @stephenfhayes New "60 Minutes" excerpt of Obama interview from 9/12/12 contradicts WH claims. bit.ly/XdxEma
Jedediah Bila (@JedediahBila) November 05, 2012
I'd like to know what @CrowleyCNN thinks about this: politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/11/05/wha But I'm not curious enough to actually watch CNN to find out.
Jim Treacher (@jtLOL) November 05, 2012
CBS releasing tape is equivalent of a Friday news dump, but it will be a subject for years to come and is a damning indictment of the MSM
Hugh Hewitt (@hughhewitt) November 06, 2012
@hughhewitt MSM is covering Benghazi now just so they can say they covered it; too late to hurt Obama but will save reputation whoever wins
Mike McNally (@notoserfdom) November 06, 2012
@hughhewitt A scar on them for withholding information that could have changed Election. Almost as bad as a false memo before an Election.
(@donttreadonme53) November 06, 2012
@60Minutes You have betrayed America's trust. Heinous example of media bias. CBS has biased an Presidential election. Dinosaur media is dead
Len J Lemmer (@LennyJLem) November 06, 2012
So '60 Minutes' withheld Obama statement re Benghazi until eve of the election. They knew Obama lied during second debate. No liberal bias??
Geoff Boss (@geoffboss) November 06, 2012
Embarrassing for CBS/60 Minutes withholding #Benghazi info on corrupt Obama admin. Makes Dan Rather look like grade school. #4DeadDiplomats
Anna Teresa Arnold (@HomerWhite) November 05, 2012
Gaffney talks about Benghazi's purpose was to try to secure weapons left over from Gadhafi's stock pile. The US was moving these weapons to arm our enemies.... jihadists & al Qaeda!!
GAFFNEY: The real reason behind Benghazigate - Washington Times
GAFFNEY: The real reason behind Benghazigate Was Obama gun-walking arms to jihadists?
Thanks to intrepid investigative reporting notably by Bret Baier and Catherine Herridge at Fox News, Aaron Klein at WND.com and Clare Lopez at RadicalIslam.org and information developed by congressional investigators, the mystery is beginning to unravel with regard to what happened that night and the reason for the subsequent, clumsy official cover-up now known as Benghazigate
The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East. Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat J. Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the opposition in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.
Fox News has chronicled how the Al Entisar, a Libyan-flagged vessel carrying 400 tons of cargo, docked on Sept. 6 in the Turkish port of Iskenderun. It reportedly supplied both humanitarian assistance and arms including deadly SA-7 man-portable surface-to-air missiles apparently destined for Islamists, again including al Qaeda elements, in Syria.
What cries out for further investigation and debate in the remaining days of this presidential election is whether this shipment was part of a larger covert Obama effort to transfer weapons to our enemies that could make the Iran-Contra scandal, to say nothing of Operation Fast and Furious, pale by comparison.
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Sources now tell CNN dozens of people working for the CIA were on the ground that night, and that the agency is going to great lengths to make sure whatever it was doing, remains a secret.
CNN has learned the CIA is involved in what one source calls an unprecedented attempt to keep the spy agency's Benghazi secrets from ever leaking out.
Since January, some CIA operatives involved in the agency's missions in Libya, have been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations, according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agency's workings.
The goal of the questioning, according to sources, is to find out if anyone is talking to the media or Congress.
It is being described as pure intimidation, with the threat that any unauthorized CIA employee who leaks information could face the end of his or her career.
Among the many secrets still yet to be told about the Benghazi mission, is just how many Americans were there the night of the attack.
A source now tells CNN that number was 35, with as many as seven wounded, some seriously.