Morgan Freeman: Tea Party is racist

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volinbham said:
No one has agreed with you on the racist angle but given how you see "facts" and "evidence" it makes perfect sense you thing everyone has.

I swear you are the love child of CashVallian and UTGibbs.
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Gibbs got roofied and dropped Chump on Garofalo's doorstep as a baby. The rest is pretty easy to figure out.
 
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theFallGuy said:
You obviously don't know anything about TPers.
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Take it up with BPV.
BigPapaVol said:
It's hypocritical to support military spending over entitlement spending, federalized HC idiocy, union ass kissing replete with overturned bankruptcy laws and one trillion in political favors disguised as stimulus? Your hollow racist refrain makes more sense.
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Most of the libertarian TPers that I know are more anti military spending than the left wing libs.
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More anti military spending than left wing libs? Interesting, because I never heard a peep when bush was waging a multi-trillion dollar war.

Ron Paul is a TPer? never knew that.
 
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Muschump said:
Take it up with BPV.

More anti military spending than left wing libs? Interesting, because I never heard a peep when bush was waging a multi-trillion dollar war.

Ron Paul is a TPer? never knew that.
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Probably because you weren't really listening. Many libertarians, like Ron Paul, were barking that
 
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golfballs03 said:
Probably because you weren't really listening. Many libertarians, like Ron Paul, were barking that
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And this is the real story - the TP is a loose grouping of people that overall have a common thread of concern about Fed govt over reach and endless spending growth.

From the libertarian side, you get the anti-war; from the consverative side you get less anti-war but anti entitlement; from the moderate side you get the folks that see the trajectory. Prior to the massive ramp up of Obama combined with the major economic downturn that Obama has for all intents and purposes ignored; these people weren't joined together. Fed govt growth has become enough of a common concern to bring these people together. That and racism...
 
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Muschump said:
Take it up with BPV.

More anti military spending than left wing libs? Interesting, because I never heard a peep when bush was waging a multi-trillion dollar war.

Ron Paul is a TPer? never knew that.
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Well then you weren't following the Libertarians or Ron Paul because he is one of the most consistent politicans I have seen.

"During March 2001, Paul introduced a bill to repeal the 1973 War Powers Resolution (WPR) and reinstate the process of formal declaration of war by Congress.[92] Later during 2001, Paul voted to authorize the president, pursuant to WPR, to respond to those responsible for the September 11, 2001, attacks.[93] He also introduced "Sunlight Rule" legislation, which requires lawmakers to take enough time to read bills before voting on them,[94] after the Patriot Act was passed within 24 hours of its introduction. Paul was one of six Republicans to vote against the Iraq War Resolution, and (with Oregon representative Peter DeFazio) sponsored a resolution to repeal the war authorization during February 2003. Paul's speech, 35 "Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq,"[95] was translated and published in German, French, Russian, Italian, and Swiss periodicals before the Iraq War began.[86]
Paul says his fellow members of Congress have increased government spending by 75 percent during the presidency of George W. Bush.[96] After a 2005 bill was touted as "slashing" government waste, Paul wrote that it decreased spending by a fraction of one percent and that "Congress couldn't slash spending if the members' lives depended on it."[97] He said that during three years he had voted against more than 700 bills intended to expand government.[98]"
 
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Muschump said:
Take it up with BPV.

More anti military spending than left wing libs? Interesting, because I never heard a peep when bush was waging a multi-trillion dollar war.

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Well then let me clue you in. Conservatives do not ILLEGALLY occupy gov't buildings when they're unhappy. They don't even typically have widespread rallies since they're too busy working, supporting their communities, and raising their families. Usually you see them show their disapproval with great CIVILITY within the construct of our democratic process. They show up and vote... or don't.

Conservatives abandoned the GOP after they betrayed them in 2006. Conservatives even face with Barak Obama refused to support McCain enthusiastically if at all.
 
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Muschump said:
Take it up with BPV.

More anti military spending than left wing libs? Interesting, because I never heard a peep when bush was waging a multi-trillion dollar war.

Ron Paul is a TPer? never knew that.
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Father of Tea Party movement
Paul, a native of Pittsburgh, is both a spiritual father and actual father in the Tea Party movement. His son, Tea Party darling Rand Paul, won a Senate seat in Kentucky last year and has become an ardent proponent of spending cuts and smaller government.
As far back as 2007, long before people were evoking the fabled Boston Tea Party to symbolize their disgust with an overtaxing central government, Ron Paul was hosting a "Tea Party Fundraiser" aboard a shrimp boat near Galveston.
Organizer and Paul campaign volunteer Elizabeth Day remembers that supporters wore period dress and rolled fake barrels of tea into the waters of the Gulf of Mexico.
"When people come to believe in Ron Paul, there is a passion that burns within us," said Day, a 57-year-old oil company revenue analyst. "To me, Ron Paul is the tea party."
The elder Paul has built coalitions that include senior citizen "granny warriors" and pot-smoking libertarians. During his 1988 presidential run, High Times magazine, which caters to marijuana users, published a cover story under the headline, "Ron Paul: Pro-Pot Presidential Candidate."
Paul has expressed the view that the states, not the federal government, should regulate vices like pornography and drugs.
 
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Honestly, I have no idea. I don't follow Ron Paul's every move. If you are looking for him to be carrying a name badge that says "member of the Tea Party" you won't find it. There are no name badges.
 
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theFallGuy said:
Honestly, I have no idea. I don't follow Ron Paul's every move. If you are looking for him to be carrying a name badge that says "member of the Tea Party" you won't find it. There are no name badges.
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Yea, actually there is. It's called the Tea Party caucus.
 
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which would be what people have been trying to explain to you about the TP. Of course you don't listen to anything but the voices in your head so it's not surprising you don't get it
 
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Muschump said:
Yea, actually there is. It's called the Tea Party caucus.
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You don't have to be in the Tea Party caucus to attend a Tea Party rally. The Tea Party caucus is something Bachman came up with. It doesn't make you any less of a Tea Party member. What makes you part of the Tea Party is agreeing with the platforms and issues they stand for. I know you big gov't libs have a hard time understanding that. You want some group that you can easily identify and smear, I get it. The problem for you is, anyone can join. There is no "group" ID card.
 
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An article in Politico stated that many Tea Party activists see the caucus as an effort by the Republican Party to hijack the movement. Utah congressman Jason Chaffetz refused to join the caucus, saying "Structure and formality are the exact opposite of what the Tea Party is, and if there is an attempt to put structure and formality around it, or to co-opt it by Washington, D.C., it’s going to take away from the free-flowing nature of the true tea party movement."[6]
In an attempt to quell fears that Washington insiders were attempting to co-opt the Tea Party movement, Rep Michele Bachmann stated "We're not the mouthpiece. We are not taking the Tea Party and controlling it from Washington, D.C. We are also not here to vouch for the Tea Party or to vouch for any Tea Party organizations or to vouch for any individual people or actions, or billboards or signs or anything of the Tea Party. We are the receptacle."[7] [8]
Additionally, Senators Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania and Marco Rubio of Florida, all Tea Party supporters, refused to join the caucus.[9][10] Toomey said he would be "open" to joining, and spoke at the first meeting, but did not ultimately join.[11] Johnson said that he declined to join because he wanted to "work towards a unified Republican Conference, so that's where I will put my energy."[12] Rubio criticized the caucus, saying "My fear has always been that if you start creating these little clubs or organizations in Washington run by politicians, the movement starts to lose its energy."[13]
 
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Muschump, you seriously don't know anything about the Tea Party or Ron Paul. You have obviously let yourself be corrupted by big media bias. Try reading some information that isn't left-wing and you might learn something.
 
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utvolpj said:
which would be what people have been trying to explain to you about the TP. Of course you don't listen to anything but the voices in your head so it's not surprising you don't get it
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What's that? Some nonsense about Ron Paul?

What about actual members of the Tea Party?

Where are the Bachmann and Palin quotes about the Iraq War?
 
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Muschump said:
What's that? Some nonsense about Ron Paul?

What about actual members of the Tea Party?

Where are the Bachmann and Palin quotes about the Iraq War?
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there's no such thing as a card-carrying TP member

who cares about Palin besides libs like you and LG and Bachmann is not worth discussing either

you really don't understand what you're discussing
 
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Muschump said:
Ooook. :unsure:


Who cares about Palin and Bachmann? Seriously? The Tea Party.
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no they really don't. Some repubs that have jumped on the bandwagon do but most ignore them. The only ones that can't are the libs and the msm

but please link me to the official TP card
 
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Muschump said:
What's that? Some nonsense about Ron Paul?

What about actual members of the Tea Party?

Where are the Bachmann and Palin quotes about the Iraq War?
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No one knows the actual numbers because there is no way to track it. But rest assured, there are FAR MORE regular citizens who agree with the Tea Party issues than the leftwing libs care to admit. In reality, you call them extremists but they are far more main stream than you think.

If they are so "extreme" and far right wing kooks, why do you guys spend so much time trying to discredit them?
 
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theFallGuy said:
No one knows the actual numbers because there is no way to track it. But rest assured, there are FAR MORE regular citizens who agree with the Tea Party issues than the leftwing libs care to admit. In reality, you call them extremists but they are far more main stream than you think.

If they are so "extreme" and far right wing kooks, why do you guys spend so much time trying to discredit them?
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Yea, bro. Radical libertarians are real mainstream.
 
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volinbham said:
No one has agreed with you on the racist angle but given how you see "facts" and "evidence" it makes perfect sense you thing everyone has.

I swear you are the love child of CashVallian and UTGibbs.
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Could be but I don't think so. Anybody wondered yet why there hasn't been an LG sighting in a thread with this many pages on one of his most favorite topics?

Can you say "alter"?
 
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