Most Feared New SEC Coach

#101
#101
KBVol said:
Franklins success is impressive only relative to what other coaches have done there. Vaginabilt historically is a train wreck, one of the worst programs in the history of college football (although do keep in mind that Bobby Johnson won 7 games and a bowl game 2 years before Franklin got there). So in that context, kudos to Penishead.

However, if you look at how he actually did versus his schedule, it's not as impressive. Long and short of it is this.... he lost, badly, to the good teams on his schedule, he won vs the bad teams on his schedule. That being said, Vaginabilt has traditionally lost to good teams, bad teams, horrible teams, so he has done better than most anybody who's ever been there.

But chew on this.... The 4 teams he lost to (SCar, Northwestern, Georgia and Florida) were a combined 44-9, and out scored vaginabilt 119-45.... the 9 teams he beat (Presbyterian, Missouri, Auburn, UMass, Kentucky, perhaps the worst, most poorly coached UT team in my lifetime, Wake Forest and NC State, who even we blew out) was a whopping 37-72, and both teams they beat with a winning record were 7-6.

Let the jackass actually beat someone of note and put up a good record vs a competitve schedule before we say he's one of the better coaches in the SEC. Unfortunately, given the patsies they schedule, we won't get to see proof anytime soon.
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Not to beat a dead horse, as you and bamawriter are in the process of discussing this, but Vandy only got embarrassed once in those Four losses. He is taking less talented players than any school in the Sec and has played toe to toe with everyone they faced last year, save Georgia. I don't want to have lunch with him, but the man can coach. Those "bad" teams he beat are all more talented than his team. The difference is player development and coaching and he's doing it. gotta give credit where is due.
 
#102
#102
bamawriter said:
If I took out the Presbyterian game, I'd no longer be using an outlier to create a false impression about the whole, which is what you did. So your logic requires its inclusion.

And I already acknowledged the facts of their schedule. You can make a great point about 2012 Vandy without making crap up. But you are so desperate to knock Franklin that truth simply isn't good enough.
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Dude, I didn't make up one single, solitary thing. Maybe you should go back and read the posts. You're the one who tried to make a point by excluding a game, not me. Everything I wrote about the facts of their record last year were, well, the facts. You just didn't like that I added the word "badly" and now I, stupidly, have wasted a couple hours I'll never get back. You wanna keep looking up Franklins skirt and be offended on his behalf then go right ahead. Not me.
 
#103
#103
KBVol said:
Dude, I didn't make up one single, solitary thing. Maybe you should go back and read the posts. You're the one who tried to make a point by excluding a game, not me. Everything I wrote about the facts of their record last year were, well, the facts. You just didn't like that I added the word "badly" and now I, stupidly, have wasted a couple hours I'll never get back. You wanna keep looking up Franklins skirt and be offended on his behalf then go right ahead. Not me.
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Your words:

he lost, badly, to the good teams on his schedule
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Please answer the following:


Did Vandy lose badly to Georgia?


Did Vandy lose badly to Florida?


Did Vandy lose badly to Nortwestern?


Did Vandy lose badly to South Carolina?
 
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