MOST OVERRATED VOL

#51
#51
(crimedawg12 @ May 10 said:
Over- OJ Owens
Under- Wm Howard/Craig Faulkner

OJ Owens?? You have to actually play (more than special teams) to be considered over or underrated!

I did meet him a few times, and had a friend that had classes with him. He was a cool person, but not enough of a player in the games to be considered for our discussion, IMO.
 
#52
#52
In my lifetime that I can remember...
Overrated: Kelly Washington
Underrated: Casey Clausen

Current Vols:
Overrated: Jonathan Hefney and Jayson Swain
Underrated: Josh Brisoe and Jon Wade
 
#54
#54
(gonygonygo @ May 10 said:
OJ Owens?? You have to actually play (more than special teams) to be considered over or underrated!

I did meet him a few times, and had a friend that had classes with him. He was a cool person, but not enough of a player in the games to be considered for our discussion, IMO.
He was one of the most hyped players to ever come in! He was supposed to be the next Ronnie Lott, so yeah he was way overated! And I don't think he was recruited just to play special teams! So being a complete bust is not overated?
 
#55
#55
There was another DB who was supposed to be the next coming but he never played, I think it was Sterling Kahzee......?
 
#56
#56
(OrangeEmpire @ May 10 said:
There was another DB who was supposed to be the next coming but he never played, I think it was Sterling Kahzee......?
I think he got popped for armed robbery in Texas!
 
#57
#57
I believe that you are correct.......................He was supposed to be fast..... :blink: :banghead:
 
#61
#61
(gonygonygo @ May 10 said:
Overrated - Add Gerald Riggs to that list. You can ask many of the current UT players, and they will tell you Arian Foster was clearly better than Riggs was.

Underrated - Eric Parker, hands down! He was overlooked when we had Donte Stallworth, Kelly Washington, Cedric Wilson, David Martin, Bobby _____ (i forgot his last name). He has turned out to be the biggest impact player in the NFL among all current UT receivers. That includes Peerless Price, Joey Kent, etc. Too bad his UT career was cut short by Casey Clausen (who I liked) hanging him out to dry in that game against Arkansas several years ago.

:biggrin2:

No way is Eric Parker better than Witten. Being better than the other guys you named isn't really saying much, but I'm still not so certain that he's better than Stallworth (who is a perennial underachiever) or Cedric Wilson. It's not like Parker is setting the world on fire in the NFL.
 
#62
#62
(kptvol @ May 9 said:
Carl Pickens came here to play safety. He just happened to be skilled enough to play WR, too. It's tough to say a guy that good was overrated. He started in the NFL for several years, too.

He was recruited as a Wr but in 1989 as a redshirt freshman they needed him in the secondary due to vast anount of injuries in the midseason. He did not play in the secondary until early part of midseason. The passing game in the early part of the 1989 was suspect as they relied on the running game of Cobb-Webb. After the bama 47-30 loss andy Kelly replaced Sterling henton as the fulltime starter and Pickens played both sides of the ball. He was Defensive MVP in the Cotton bowl for getting a key interception in the endzone but he was mainly a WR first and DB secondly.
 
#63
#63
over rated- Micheal Munoz -i still remeber him getting demolished by justin tuck in the notre dame game
under rated- raynoch thompson

current vol- overrated-Rico McCoy -this guy has yet to play one down in the sec...+ he is undersized
underrated- Demetrice Morley future all sec player
 
#64
#64
(Vol423 @ May 10 said:
No way is Eric Parker better than Witten. Being better than the other guys you named isn't really saying much, but I'm still not so certain that he's better than Stallworth (who is a perennial underachiever) or Cedric Wilson. It's not like Parker is setting the world on fire in the NFL.

Let's make sure we are on the same page... Witten was/is a better player than Eric Parker. However, the statement I made was concerning the fact that Parker was UNDERrated. I feel Witten got all the respect he deserved, making him NOT underrated.

Witten was very highly touted as a UT player. Part of the reason he wasn't drafted until the 3rd round was because he left early, and his blocking was suspect. He was one of the focal points of UT's offense, and other teams gameplanned their defense around his positions on the field. Everyone was talking about how great he was, and his jersey was selling mad! He was one of the most appreciated and respected players at UT. He was as highly touted as Stallworth, K. Washington, etc. He was great (and better than Parker), but he was not underrated. Going 3rd round as a TE does not necessarily mean you are underrated. The TE position is perenially a position that is selected in the later rounds of the draft.

For his level of talent, Eric Parker was UNDERrated. I say this because, he was overlooked almost always when it came to UT's receiving core. He wasn't used on the field as much as he should have for someone with his abilities. You could argue that Stallworth may have better talent than Parker, but you cannot tell me that Parker is LESS productive than Stallworth. In the last 5 years, who has been more productive as an NFL receiver than Parker??? If you dont believe me, watch the next San Diego game that is on tv. Even before Antonio Gates blew up, who was consistently getting open and catching all of those 3rd and 19's?? Parker is the best player from UT to get no respect. I believe he went undrafted, and will have a LONG career in the NFL, if he keeps up his pace.

Parker and Witten are almost equally productive in the NFL right now. Witten was highly touted. Parker was passed over, and overlooked by everyone. He got little respect from his fellow teammates at UT, and look at him now. He didn't develop all of that talent when he LEFT UT. He's as good as Stallworth, Washington, etc. But he didn't get nearly the credit that they got! That's why he was most UNDERRATED.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am not saying you are wrong. However, I would be impressed if you could give me a valid argument explaining how Witten is more underrated than Eric Parker was. :fool: :fool:
 
#65
#65
(hatvol96 @ May 9 said:
Wil Overstreet laps the field for most overrated. Andy Kelly may not be underrated, he is underappreciated.

Based on his college career, Overstreet was not overrated at all. He just wasnt a pro player. He was a college player. He wasnt even that highly recruited. i think we got more out of him than we expected. He gave it 110% every down.
 
#66
#66
(hatvol96 @ May 10 said:
Nothing hypothetical about that statement. Simply a factual commentary on what Kelly's legacy almost came to be.
Had Karl Kremser not missed that thirty-something yard field goal in the 1968 Orange Bowl against Oklahoma we would have won the 1967 national championship............."almost" don't mean diddly in football legacies!! :dunno:
 
#67
#67
(OrangeEmpire @ May 10 said:
This is off topic but I had to respond, it would not have mattered if Lee would have listened to Longstreet and the Army of the Potomac was destroyed. It would not have mattered if the Confederates took Baltimore and lay siege to Washington itself. The might of the North was far too powerful; they would have created a new Army of the Potomac.

The only way the war could have been won if Lincoln lost his resolve, or he lost the presidency........

*Sorry, I just love to talk about the American Civil War......
Actually, Yank, the North was losing it's resolve. The war was very unpopular, with draft riots in NY City etc. andGreat Britian was considering coming to the aid of the South. The loss at Gettysburg and Vicksburg on almost the same day turned the tide, which was good for me as my great-great-grandfather was a private in the US Army, though from Middle Tennessee!!
 
#68
#68
(gonygonygo @ May 10 said:
You are entitled to your opinion, and I am not saying you are wrong. However, I would be impressed if you could give me a valid argument explaining how Witten is more underrated than Eric Parker was. :fool: :fool:

I never said that Witten was more underrated than Parker. I said that there is no way that Eric Parker is a better receiver than Witten, and my comment was in response to your statement that "He has turned out to be the biggest impact player in the NFL among all current UT receivers."

I'm not trying to stir things up. I'm simply stating that Witten is a better NFL receiver than Parker, and I think that despite the fact that he is a perennial underachiever, Stallworth is still as good as Parker.
 
#69
#69
(OrangeEmpire @ May 10 said:
Over rated Bill Duff

Under rated Raynoch Thompson


Bill Duff? From what i can remember, Duff was a solid consistent player. No NFL hype or much hype coming into Tennessee. He played hard. Had a great game against Bama and was the stuffer on the goaline stand on Eddie george. Duff wasnt much of an athlete, he was a football player.
 
#70
#70
(Maize and Blue Fan @ May 10 said:
over rated- Micheal Munoz -i still remeber him getting demolished by justin tuck in the notre dame game
under rated- raynoch thompson

current vol- overrated-Rico McCoy -this guy has yet to play one down in the sec...+ he is undersized
underrated- Demetrice Morley future all sec player
overrated-Tyrone Wheatley
underrated-Tom Brady
 
#71
#71
(oklavol @ May 10 said:
Current vols

overrated: Eric Ainge
underrated: Arian Foster


Dont think Foster is underrated. I think we all know about him and what his potential is.
 
#72
#72
(crimedawg12 @ May 10 said:
I think he got popped for armed robbery in Texas!
That was Derrick Evans. He robbed some video stores wearing his high school letter jacket. Never made it to UT.
 
#73
#73
(Vol423 @ May 10 said:
I never said that Witten was more underrated than Parker. I said that there is no way that Eric Parker is a better receiver than Witten, and my comment was in response to your statement that "He has turned out to be the biggest impact player in the NFL among all current UT receivers."

I'm not trying to stir things up. I'm simply stating that Witten is a better NFL receiver than Parker, and I think that despite the fact that he is a perennial underachiever, Stallworth is still as good as Parker.

Eric Parker and Stallworth both began their NFL careers in 2002. Their stats are as follows:

Parker – Receptions, Yards, Avg./Rec, TD’s

17-268-15.8-1
18-244-13.6-3
47-690-14.7-4
57-725-12.7-3
Totals – 139-1,927-13.9-11


Stallworth – Yards, Avg./Rec, TD’s

42-594-14.1-8
25-485-19.4-3
58-767-13.2-5
70-945-13.5-7
Totals – 195-2,791-14.3-23

Witten began his NFL career in 2003. His stats are as follows:

35-347-1
87-980-6
66-757-6

While I agree that Eric Parker received no hype at UT, he went undrafted, and he has turned out to be a serviceable NFL wide receiver, he is by no means a world beater, and you were overreaching when you stated that “He has turned out to be the biggest impact player in the NFL among all current UT receivers." Eric Parker is NOT an impact player.
 
#74
#74
(Vol423 @ May 10 said:
I never said that Witten was more underrated than Parker. I said that there is no way that Eric Parker is a better receiver than Witten, and my comment was in response to your statement that "He has turned out to be the biggest impact player in the NFL among all current UT receivers."

I'm not trying to stir things up. I'm simply stating that Witten is a better NFL receiver than Parker, and I think that despite the fact that he is a perennial underachiever, Stallworth is still as good as Parker.

Witten does NOT play WR. He is a tight end! Not the same thing.
 
#75
#75
(gonygonygo @ May 10 said:
Witten does NOT play WR. He is a tight end! Not the same thing.

Yeah, that's true. Also, Jeff Hall was way better than Albert Haynesworth.
 

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