MOST OVERRATED VOL

#76
#76
(Vol423 @ May 10 said:
Eric Parker and Stallworth both began their NFL careers in 2002. Their stats are as follows:

Parker – Receptions, Yards, Avg./Rec, TD’s

17-268-15.8-1
18-244-13.6-3
47-690-14.7-4
57-725-12.7-3
Totals – 139-1,927-13.9-11
Stallworth – Yards, Avg./Rec, TD’s

42-594-14.1-8
25-485-19.4-3
58-767-13.2-5
70-945-13.5-7
Totals – 195-2,791-14.3-23

Witten began his NFL career in 2003. His stats are as follows:

35-347-1
87-980-6
66-757-6

While I agree that Eric Parker received no hype at UT, he went undrafted, and he has turned out to be a serviceable NFL wide receiver, he is by no means a world beater, and you were overreaching when you stated that “He has turned out to be the biggest impact player in the NFL among all current UT receivers." Eric Parker is NOT an impact player.
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I never looked up the exact numbers, and numbers do not lie. However when watching games, Parker always seems to matter a little bit more to his team than does Stallworth. That's why I say "impact". I guess based on your definition, you have a valid point. Stallworth has more catches, and certainly more yards. I suppose he should... He was a first round pick, and Parker was undrafted.

Possibly there is a bias in my argument because Parker is on a winning team with no other superstar calibur receivers. Stallworth is on a mediocre team (win early, then fade at end of season). Also, Stallworth is playing with Joe Horn, one of the best in the game. He is in my top 6 or 7 of best NFL receivers. You will have good numbers when you are not getting the same attention that the guy on the opposite side of the field gets.

No disrespect to Stallworth, but pound for pound Parker is as good as he is.

You will hear as well for that draft class, Parker was the ULTIMATE steal.

I still think Parker was most underrated at UT in the recent years. And once again, Witten I do not compare because he is a TE, and he was not underrated.


 
#77
#77
(brg72 @ May 10 said:
He was recruited as a Wr but in 1989 as a redshirt freshman they needed him in the secondary due to vast anount of injuries in the midseason. He did not play in the secondary until early part of midseason. The passing game in the early part of the 1989 was suspect as they relied on the running game of Cobb-Webb. After the bama 47-30 loss andy Kelly replaced Sterling henton as the fulltime starter and Pickens played both sides of the ball. He was Defensive MVP in the Cotton bowl for getting a key interception in the endzone but he was mainly a WR first and DB secondly.
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Well, you know more about him than I do. But you have to admit, anyone who can play both sides of the ball that effectively is a pretty good player. Mark Jones did a pretty good job of that, as well.
 
#78
#78
(gonygonygo @ May 10 said:
Witten does NOT play WR. He is a tight end! Not the same thing.
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You said receiver, not WIDE receiver. A tight end is a receiver.
 
#79
#79
(gonygonygo @ May 10 said:
I never looked up the exact numbers, and numbers do not lie. However when watching games, Parker always seems to matter a little bit more to his team than does Stallworth. That's why I say "impact". I guess based on your definition, you have a valid point. Stallworth has more catches, and certainly more yards. I suppose he should... He was a first round pick, and Parker was undrafted.

Possibly there is a bias in my argument because Parker is on a winning team with no other superstar calibur receivers. Stallworth is on a mediocre team (win early, then fade at end of season). Also, Stallworth is playing with Joe Horn, one of the best in the game. He is in my top 6 or 7 of best NFL receivers. You will have good numbers when you are not getting the same attention that the guy on the opposite side of the field gets.

No disrespect to Stallworth, but pound for pound Parker is as good as he is.

You will hear as well for that draft class, Parker was the ULTIMATE steal.

I still think Parker was most underrated at UT in the recent years. And once again, Witten I do not compare because he is a TE, and he was not underrated.
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Yeah. I had never actually looked at the numbers either. Your post got me thinking and I wanted to actually look up their stats to see if my gut feeling was correct. The fact of the matter is that San Diego is just terribly weak at wide receiver. McCardell would make a great #2 wide receiver, but he's only an average #1 wide receiver. Parker would be great as a #3 wide receiver, but he's below average in my opinion as a #2 wide receiver. Having been undrafted, though, he's doing extremely well to be on a team and be starting. As I stated earlier, I think that Stallworth has been a huge disappointment, but I still feel like he's a better receiver than Parker. I agree with you that Witten is a tight end, but that is still a receiver, and he's the best receiver that has produced at UT in quite a while.

I guess one thing that I should keep in mind is that while McCardell is the #1 wide receiver and Parker is the #2 wide receiver for San Diego, they are really, at best, the #2 and #3 options in San Diego's passing attack.
 
#80
#80
(kptvol @ May 10 said:
Well, you know more about him than I do. But you have to admit, anyone who can play both sides of the ball that effectively is a pretty good player. Mark Jones did a pretty good job of that, as well.
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Pickens was also considered one of the top 5 or 6 wide receivers in the NFL for a number of years.
 
#81
#81
(gonygonygo @ May 10 said:
Possibly there is a bias in my argument because Parker is on a winning team with no other superstar calibur receivers. Stallworth is on a mediocre team (win early, then fade at end of season). Also, Stallworth is playing with Joe Horn, one of the best in the game. He is in my top 6 or 7 of best NFL receivers. You will have good numbers when you are not getting the same attention that the guy on the opposite side of the field gets.

No disrespect to Stallworth, but pound for pound Parker is as good as he is.
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I think you're dreaming. Parker is the #2 wide receiver for San Diego, but the #3 receiving option. McCardell and Gates are the #1 and #2 options (in whatever order you wish to place them) and on a number of plays Tomlinson is probably even higher in the receiver progression than Parker. Parker isn't receiving any more attention than Stallworth from the defense, and in fact, is probably receiving far less attention. The most TD's Parker has ever had in a single season is 4. By contrast, Stallworth has only played one season in which he failed to score more than 4 touchdowns, and that was during his second season when he played most of the season with severe hamstring problems. You can have a soft spot in your heart for the guy all you want, but the guy has to actually produce to be considered better than other guys. The fact of the matter is that he hasn't, and more than likely never will. He's a role player on a team with several far more attractive options: Tomlinson, Gates, and McCardell. I'm not a fan of Stallworth. I think he drops way too many balls, and he is in my opinion squandering some outstanding talent by not working hard at his profession. However, he is still far superior to Parker.
 
#82
#82
Overrated ~ Scott Galyon, Antone Davis, Michael Munoz

Underrated ~ Joey Kent, Cedric Wilson, Shawn Bryson, Mose Phillips
 
#83
#83
(JasonCajun @ May 10 said:
Overrated ~ Scott Galyon, Antone Davis, Michael Munoz

Underrated ~ Joey Kent, Cedric Wilson, Shawn Bryson, Mose Phillips
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Joey Kent was underrated? Are you serious? Both he and Marcus Nash were nothing more than a product of the quarterback throwing them the ball. I wholeheartedly agree that Bryson was underrated. He was a great fullback.
 
#85
#85
(Vol423 @ May 10 said:
Joey Kent was underrated? Are you serious? Both he and Marcus Nash were nothing more than a product of the quarterback throwing them the ball. I wholeheartedly agree that Bryson was underrated. He was a great fullback.
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yep, he was underrated. When you think of the WR tradition at UT, you don't think of Joey Kent. So he isn't really rated by UT fans. He wasn't an all american, but he had great hands, run good routes and was the go-to guy for us the last time we had a truly high powered offense. Peyton Manning is no doubt a great QB, but even he wouldn't have looked that good throwing to the receivers we had last year.
 
#87
#87
(Vol423 @ May 10 said:
I think you're dreaming. Parker is the #2 wide receiver for San Diego, but the #3 receiving option. McCardell and Gates are the #1 and #2 options (in whatever order you wish to place them) and on a number of plays Tomlinson is probably even higher in the receiver progression than Parker. Parker isn't receiving any more attention than Stallworth from the defense, and in fact, is probably receiving far less attention. The most TD's Parker has ever had in a single season is 4. By contrast, Stallworth has only played one season in which he failed to score more than 4 touchdowns, and that was during his second season when he played most of the season with severe hamstring problems. You can have a soft spot in your heart for the guy all you want, but the guy has to actually produce to be considered better than other guys. The fact of the matter is that he hasn't, and more than likely never will. He's a role player on a team with several far more attractive options: Tomlinson, Gates, and McCardell. I'm not a fan of Stallworth. I think he drops way too many balls, and he is in my opinion squandering some outstanding talent by not working hard at his profession. However, he is still far superior to Parker.
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I think superior is a stretch... Regardless what you think about Parker, he is still one of the most UNDERrated players to play at UT. Stallworth was ALL UNIVERSE compared to Parker. Parker played under the shadows, and will arguably have just as long of a pro career at Stallworth. Parker doesn't drop balls, and he was catching passes there before Antonio Gates came along, and Keenan McCardell was still in Tampa Bay. Parker is a very good receiver. Most underrated in my opinion. Whenever you hear people talk about the legends at UT, Parker's name never comes up. But his pro career has PROVEN THAT HE WAS UNDERRATED WHILE PLAYING HERE, which is the whole subject we're debating here.
 
#91
#91
when i started this thread i didn't consider what players did in the nfl, i'm just referring to what they did at ut. A good example would be dale jones; possibly the most beloved player to ever play at ut, but not the best nfl player, since he did not play there as far as i know. i know carl pickens was a great player, but in the clutch against top teams he was mr. butterfingers.
 
#92
#92
Overrated: Dirk Borgognone PK never heard a PK be so hyped coming to college and only perform kickoffs. I think he transferred.

Underrated: Greg Amsler - opened lot of holes for Cobb/Webb - anthony Thompson for back to back SEC championships.
 
#94
#94
Underrated: Randy Sanders

Best gosh dang placeholder we've ever had!

<runs away so he doesn&#39;t get shot as rocks are thrown at sickem>
 
#95
#95
Another underrated player in college that comes to mind is Eddie Moore, of course he was overrated by the Dolphins at where they drafted him
 
#97
#97
Most recently overrated: Kevin Simon (I know I&#39;m gonna catch crap for this one)

The defensive production never seemed to be affected by his presence or absense.
 
#98
#98
I don&#39;t think that&#39;s an unfair assessment. The injuries definitely took their toll on him and our d-line made a lot of people look good last year.
 
#99
#99
Is it Simon or Burnette that has the little brother thats being recruited?
 
#100
#100
(volsfan711 &#064; May 10 said:
i dont think witten was underrated. He is considered one of the best TE of all time at UT
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Probably the bst ever at UT at his position.
 
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