'24 MS EDGE Jamonta Waller (Florida commit)

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BleedingOrangeInChatt said:
Who is most fans? I certainly didn't want him. To be fair I wasn't really excited for Heupel. But to say florida will win the east before us is ludicrous. Especially considering this is the last year of divisions. Georgia will more than likely win the east. We don't have to like it but it's the truth.
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I said 2025 that’s still a ways off and two more recruiting cycles but yea Billy is stockpiling some very talented recruits on the defense he’s playing the long game and if Florida fans are patient with him I think he will have great success there.
 
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Voldog1998 said:
I said 2025 that’s still a ways off and two more recruiting cycles but yea Billy is stockpiling some very talented recruits on the defense he’s playing the long game and if Florida fans are patient with him I think he will have great success there.
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If he has one more bad season and/or lose to vandy again they'll fire him.

But there won't be an east and west in 2025. That ends this year.
 
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Voldog1998 said:
And you don’t know they can’t either. This time last year nobody saw or thought Tennessee would start 8-0 and go 11-2 we all were hoping for 8-4 or 9-3 at best. Napier had to purge out and get rid of the bad seeds and losers from Dan Mullens tenure so yea Florida struggled last year. I expect them to be much improved this season to go 7-5 or 8-4 and it wouldn’t shock in the least if they beat us in the swamp.
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I guess I missed the part where I suggested Florida would be an abject failure like you've implied. And no, I don't "know" they won't have a miraculous turnaround. Just like I don't know that Vanderbilt won't run roughshod to the national title over the entire SEC. One outcome doesn't necessarily dictate another. There were a lot of solid pieces and upperclassmen leadership, not to mention untapped potential on that Tennessee team. I don't see that in Graham Mertz and Co. Certainly not to the point that I'd comfortably (and simplistically) say, well if Heupel can do it, so can Napier.
 
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Voldog1998 said:
He’s a good coach and a damn good recruiter most Tennessee fans including me wanted him in Knoxville. I bet he wins the SEC before Heupel and no I’m not a Florida fan. Defense wins championships my boy and Heup don’t believe in a good defense.
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You are laughable. A good coach doesn’t lose to Vanderbilt while having a high first round draft pick at QB. Yea defense wins championships. When you have defensive coaches in the level of Saban and Smart. If you don’t, you aren’t winning. I would be willing to bet anything Heupel wins the SEC before Napier. Heupel will last in the SEC. Napier won’t.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
You are laughable. A good coach doesn’t lose to Vanderbilt while having a high first round draft pick at QB. Yea defense wins championships. When you have defensive coaches in the level of Saban and Smart. If you don’t, you aren’t winning. I would be willing to bet anything Heupel wins the SEC before Napier. Heupel will last in the SEC. Napier won’t.
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Has this dude not seen our 2022 class? That class was heavily defense minded. And we’re the mix for some dudes this year + the only coach that didn’t get an extension was Martinez. Seams like Heupel actually cares about defense to me
 
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IMissTheMidRangeGame said:
Has this dude not seen our 2022 class? That class was heavily defense minded. And we’re the mix for some dudes this year + the only coach that didn’t get an extension was Martinez. Seams like Heupel actually cares about defense to me
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When he said Heupel doesn't care about defense, I knew for sure he was a troll. Our recruiting this cycle and last have been heavily focused on defense. There has been an obvious push to bring in talented DBs and pass rushers in bunches.
 
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Sub Par SUPERSTAR said:
Dooley was an unmitigated failure when he was hired, Billy wasn't. Year two is when we generally find out what a coach has, and although Billy hasn't been able to completely turn over the roster from the horrific state Mullen left it in, I do have faith in the man.
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Say prayers to Fake Dabo and Joel Osteen
 
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Voldog1998 said:
Too early to say that. It’s gonna be hard though for Josh to ever win the SEC like Fulmer, Dickey and Majors and Neyland did. Those are the great and best UT coaches in our history and they never coached in a 16 team SEC with Oklahoma and Texas.
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Voldog1998 said:
. That was last year let’s see how we do going forward. Can we sustain it? or were we just a flash in the pan and one hit wonders in 2022
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First two years...

Dickey: 12-6-3 (3-6-3 SEC)
Five previous seasons before: 26-21-3 (15-20-3 SEC)

Majors: 9-12-1 (4-8 SEC)
Five previous seasons before: 38-19-2 (14-15-1 SEC)

Fulmer: 17-6-1 (11-4-1 SEC)
Five previous seasons before: 43-15-2 (24-11-1 SEC)

Heupel: 18-8 (10-6 SEC)
Five previous seasons before: 29-31 (14-28 SEC) Took over a program that was the laughing stock of big time college football, not to mention the target of an embarrassing investigation.

Everyone recognizes what you are...you're fooling no one. I know we shouldn't feed you, the troll; but, I couldn't help myself to fact-punch you in the face.

Also, there is no "our" history.
 
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SugarCC said:
First two years...

Dickey: 12-6-3 (3-6-3 SEC)
Five previous seasons before: 26-21-3 (15-20-3 SEC)

Majors: 9-12-1 (4-8 SEC)
Five previous seasons before: 38-19-2 (14-15-1 SEC)

Fulmer: 17-6-1 (11-4-1 SEC)
Five previous seasons before: 43-15-2 (24-11-1 SEC)

Heupel: 18-8 (10-6 SEC)
Five previous seasons before: 29-31 (14-28 SEC) Took over a program that was the laughing stock of big time college football, not to mention the target of an embarrassing investigation.

Everyone recognizes what you are...you're fooling no one. I know we shouldn't feed you, the troll; but, I couldn't help myself to fact-punch you in the face.

Also, there is no "our" history.
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The odds are against Heupel of winning the SEC right now Georgia and Kirby run this league
 
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Voldog1998 said:
The odds are against Heupel of winning the SEC right now Georgia and Kirby run this league
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The odds of Heupel having a winning record that first season were just as great. The odds of Heupel winning 11 games last year, ESPECIALLY with the schedule we had were just as great. The odds of Heupel having a winning record in the SEC were just as great. The odds that Heupel would have more wins in his first two seasons than the TRULY OUR greats...just as great.

I can keep taking you apart, if you wish; but, with all things sad and pathetic, I'm bored of you already.
 
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Voldog1998 said:
He’s a good coach and a damn good recruiter most Tennessee fans including me wanted him in Knoxville. I bet he wins the SEC before Heupel and no I’m not a Florida fan. Defense wins championships my boy and Heup don’t believe in a good defense.
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No, most TN did NOT want him here. No sure where you got that. And you're out of your damn mind if you think Heup doesn't believe in a good D. They wouldn't be putting the effort in the Def prospects if that wasn't true. It takes longer to build a great D than it does a great Offense. And no, he won't be winning the SEC in our lifetime, he won't be there long enough.
 
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Voldog1998 said:
He does? Let me look at those defensive stats thru his first two seasons haha
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Yes he does. For starters it takes a lot longer to build a good D than a good O. Plus we already had some really good Offensive pieces, our D was depleted and very little if no star power. He wouldn't have hired guys like Garner and Banks if he didn't believe in playing D. He's intelligent enough to know you have to play D in this league to win.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
Yes he does. For starters it takes a lot longer to build a good D than a good O. Plus we already had some really good Offensive pieces, our D was depleted and very little if no star power. He wouldn't have hired guys like Garner and Banks if he didn't believe in playing D. He's intelligent enough to know you have to play D in this league to win.
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That's why I said that guy is an obvious troll. In one of his stops during the Big Orange Caravan, Heupel stated that we were going to be elite on defense while he's here. That's not a statement made by someone who doesn't care about defense and he's recruiting the pieces to make that happen.
 
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Voldog1998 said:
He’s a good coach and a damn good recruiter most Tennessee fans including me wanted him in Knoxville. I bet he wins the SEC before Heupel and no I’m not a Florida fan. Defense wins championships my boy and Heup don’t believe in a good defense.
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Defense wins championships? Did I go back to the mid 1990’s? Even as good as georgias defense was…. They gave up 41 to Ohio state…. Tennessee finished fourth in the SEC in ppg allowed and held Clemson to 14…. We are going to roll Florida in Gainesville this year.
 
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Voldog1998 said:
I said 2025 that’s still a ways off and two more recruiting cycles but yea Billy is stockpiling some very talented recruits on the defense he’s playing the long game and if Florida fans are patient with him I think he will have great success there.
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All I'm stating is they had a quarterback and tried to write him a check their ass couldn't cash. As far as Napier winning an SEC title before CJH 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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Sub Par SUPERSTAR said:
I mean, American Athletic Conference Josh showed in year two what he could do after a lackluster year one, I'm sure a guy that built his program from the ground up into a conference champion could do the same, no?
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Lackluster year 1?

UT went from 3-7 to 7-6.
and two losses were due to refs blowing plays dead early, the fumble TD called back against Ole Miss, and the TD that wasn't against Purdue. That very easily SHOULD have been a 9-4 record. but even a 4 game improvement was huge. and that includes winning an additional SEC game vs 2020. not lackluster improvement.

Florida went from 6-7 to 6-7. that IS lackluster.

Huepel also took our offense from 109th in 2020 to 7th in 2021, if that is lack luster for year 1, I don't know what to tell you. our defense did regress.

Napier took the 49th offense, started a first round draft pick QB and turned it into the 58th ranked offense. he also dropped your defense rankings. that is worse than lackluster.

and Napier fell back with a much more talented roster than TN had even in 2022. 41 blue chips for Florida, 26 for TN.
 
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