Mueller Report Imminent

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luthervol said:
Not a chance he is exonerated of obstruction in anyone's mind other than hardcore redhatters.
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I’m not a hard core red hatter. And I say he was. If he wasn’t, where are the esteemed Mueller’s charges? Maybe I missed them.
 
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hog88 said:
No! We elected Rs to majorities in the house and senate to do that and they failed miserably so they were voted out. Their base didn't turn out for them because of it.

If the Dems were smart (which is debatable) they would drop the Trump/Russia crap and start flooding the senate with reasonable legislation. They could pass bills lowering the rates in the middle of the tax bracket, restore the non-reimbursed business expense deductions. They could pass some form of reasonable immigration reform that takes away the claim of "the left cares more about illegals than they do you". Stay away from gun legislation and anti-business legislation, bury the medicare for all and free college talk and take the mature statesmen stance on things for the next year and a half. If they just did that for the next 18-20 months they would bury the Rs in both the house/senate, probably defeat Trump and come out of the 2020 elections with complete control.
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lol........that's not what dems are looking for.
That's what repubs who realize how much trump sux and thereby hate voting for him are looking for.
 
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0nelilreb said:
The collusion is dead with the “ no American colluded “statement . Obstruction is the only chess piece left on the board left to play with .
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That has me puzzled only because Manafort and the passing polling data. How is that not him acting to further the Russian election interference conspiracy specifically related to the social media campaign? Is it that they just couldn't prove that the Russians used it?
 
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luthervol said:
lol........that's not what dems are looking for.
That's what repubs who realize how much trump sux and thereby hate voting for him are looking for.
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Dang Luther you just love to prove the stereotype don't you?

It doesn't matter what the Dem base is looking for, you guys are going to vote Dem regardless of what they do, what they say or who they run. They don't need to worry about your vote but you and those like you are not going to bring them the senate, WH or even a continued majority in the house. They need to be appealing to the center and right now they are doing everything except that.
 
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luthervol said:
So you ask a question and then reject the answer? Classic
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You didn't just answer the question, you felt the need to throw your opinion in about all media so correct I reject your opinion. Fact is you are perfectly fine with being lied to as long as they are telling you lies you want to hear. That's sad and scary
 
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What once was “Trump will be prisoned for treason soon!” has been reduced to a meltdown because Sarah Huckabee Sanders mischaracterized the feelings of an unknown number of FBI agents. LOL 😂
 
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From a Big Time Fellow Liberal. Maybe Luther should listen to him.

Robert Mueller Did Not Merely Reject the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theories. He Obliterated Them.
The two-pronged conspiracy theory that has dominated U.S. political discourse for almost three years – that (1) Trump, his family and his campaign conspired or coordinated with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election, and (2) Trump is beholden to Russian President Vladimir Putin — was not merely rejected today by the final report of Special Counsel Robert Mueller. It was obliterated: in an undeniable and definitive manner.

The key fact is this: Mueller – contrary to weeks of false media claims – did not merely issue a narrow, cramped, legalistic finding that there was insufficient evidence to indict Trump associates for conspiring with Russia and then proving their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. That would have been devastating enough to those who spent the last two years or more misleading people to believe that conspiracy convictions of Trump’s closest aides and family members were inevitable. But his mandate was much broader than that: to state what did or did not happen.
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Several of the media’s most breathless and hyped “bombshells” were dismissed completely by Mueller. Regarding various Trump officials’ 2016 meetings with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, Mueller said they were “brief, public and nonsubstantive.” Concerning the much-hyped change to GOP platform regarding Ukraine, Mueller wrote that the “evidence does not establish that one campaign official’s efforts to dilute a portion of the Republican platform was undertaken at the behest of candidate Trump or Russia,” and further noted that such a change was consistent with Trump’s publicly stated foreign policy view (one shared by Obama) to avoid provoking gratuitous conflict with the Kremlin over arming Ukrainians. Mueller also characterized a widely hyped “meeting” between then-Senator Jeff Sessions and Kislyak as one that did not “include any more than a passing mention of the presidential campaign.”

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None of this is to say that the Mueller Report exonerates Trump of wrongdoing. Mueller makes clear, for instance, that the Trump campaign not only knew that Russia was interested in helping it win the election but was happy to have that help. There’s clearly nothing criminal about that. One can debate whether it’s unethical for a presidential campaign to have dirt about its opponent released by a foreign government, though anyone who wants to argue that has to reconcile that with the fact that the DNC had a contractor working with the Ukrainian government to help Hillary Clinton win by feeding them dirt on Trump and Manafort, as well as a paid operative named Christopher Steele (remember him?) working with Russian officials to get dirt on Trump.
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DC_Vol said:
I’m not a hard core red hatter. And I say he was. If he wasn’t, where are the esteemed Mueller’s charges? Maybe I missed them.
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He was told a sitting president could not be indicted. He said "here's the evidence, it's congresses job."
 
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Mick said:
That has me puzzled only because Manafort and the passing polling data. How is that not him acting to further the Russian election interference conspiracy specifically related to the social media campaign? Is it that they just couldn't prove that the Russians used it?
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We all need to accept the findings of the special prosecutor right?
 
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hog88 said:
Dang Luther you just love to prove the stereotype don't you?

It doesn't matter what the Dem base is looking for, you guys are going to vote Dem regardless of what they do, what they say or who they run. They don't need to worry about your vote but you and those like you are not going to bring them the senate, WH or even a continued majority in the house. They need to be appealing to the center and right now they are doing everything except that.
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Like the repubs trying to take back the house are appealing to the center? Like repubs who nominated Trump were appealing to the center? That type of appeal?
 
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