Mueller Report Imminent

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luthervol said:
I see how this could be a continuous loop.
Let's just concede the points:
I concede that you find me to be willfully ignorant.
Will you concede that I find you to be unthinking?
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Nope. You can concede whatever you want. It is easy when it's so obvious to anyone with a functioning CNS that you are willfully ignorant and you choose to be. As far as I being "unthinking "in your opinion, I concede nothing of the sort, after thinking about it for oh, a nanosecond. Wait, how could I do that if I was unthinking? Your opinion means less than nothing.
 
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Mick said:
"Signature legislation"? Think of it as the same as if they were to impeach. They don't have the votes in the Senate and Trump would veto anything good. They passed an election reform bill if you want to count that as signature.
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They don't need any legislation to be signed, all they need is to pass legislation that backs up their talking points and isn't radical in nature. They need to be seen as appearing to be reasonable and working on things that matter instead of constant attacks on the president.
 
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hog88 said:
He hired good people and they prevented him from obstructing, fact.
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This is my logic: You and I can talk about robbing a bank, plan a robbery, and I can ask you to rob that bank based on that plan. If you choose not to rob the bank, neither of us have committed Bank Robbery. If we prosecute based on asking favors and words... We'd all be in jail.
 
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hog88 said:
You mean the completely unconstitutional bill they passed as their first piece of business. The one that stripped most of the states ability to control their own elections and would make voter registration a complete fraud? That HR1?
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Hot take there
 
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hog88 said:
They don't need any legislation to be signed, all they need is to pass legislation that backs up their talking points and isn't radical in nature. They need to be seen as appearing to be reasonable and working on things that matter instead of constant attacks on the president.
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If you look at the political landscape, about the only thing that might get bipartisan support would be immigration reform but whatever they come up with will one again be torpedoed by Stephen Miller.
 
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roosterjbh said:
What? The house passed it, the senate wouldn’t take it up for a vote
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The dustbin of history is littered with those. If it doesn't get enacted they didn't pass anything but hot air. They knew what would happen. It was just Kabuki Theater, all show, no go.
 
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Burger said:
This is my logic: You and I can talk about robbing a bank, plan a robbery, and I can ask you to rob that bank based on that plan. If you choose not to rob the bank, neither of us have committed Bank Robbery. If we prosecute based on asking favors and words... We'd all be in jail.
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If I tell an employee to do something and they tell me no that would be illegal or even just a plain bad idea they did their job and nobody committed a crime or attempted to commit a crime.
 
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Mick said:
If you look at the political landscape, about the only thing that might get bipartisan support would be immigration reform but whatever they come up with will one again be torpedoed by Stephen Miller.
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You just don't get it and because the Dems in general don't get it either you will be relegated to a minority in the house come 2020.
 
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hog88 said:
If I tell an employee to do something and they tell me no that would be illegal or even just a plain bad idea they did their job and nobody committed a crime or attempted to commit a crime.
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Exactly, there has to be an attempt to commit a crime. Trump's lackeys defying him saved his bacon.
 
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hog88 said:
He hired good people and they prevented him from obstructing, fact.
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You have an opinion* followed by a fact. I'm not even sure what your point is. Are you saying it's OK that he tried to obstruct justice?

*the truth may be he accidentally hired people who weren't willing to go down for him
 
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37L1 said:
The dustbin of history is littered with those. If it doesn't get enacted they didn't pass anything but hot air. They knew what would happen. It was just Kabuki Theater, all show, no go.
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Ok, but the question was what signature legislation had the House passed. That was the major headlining bill.

Anything the House passes will get killed in the senate. Congress is a zero sum game
 
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