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(Vol423 @ Jun 20 said:Let's see. You have 4 teams going undefeated, and you have 7 teams suffering only one loss. I don't think so.
(BLEEDS ORANGE @ Jun 20 said:VolinArizona:
U're seriously sticking with USC going undefeated, even with their coach, their great recruits who haven't started a D-1A game, and their home schedule. I'll bet my truck that they will NOt go undefeated.
(Vol423 @ Jun 20 said:VolinArizona,
What's the story with Southern Cal's running backs? I haven't been keeping up with them during the summer, but I thought that I remembered hearing something about their top 2 running backs being injured. Is that correct, and if so, does USC expect those players to return and be available for the beginning of the season?
everybody has an opinion, right? but i do agree, for the first time in a couple of years, it's pretty wide open....UF's schedule is daunting, granted, but i'm almost hyping them up a bit so they will fall....i don't know that they'll lose 5 games, but 3-4 isn't out of the relm of possibilities considering who they play and where.(VolinArizona @ Jun 20 said:Jake, I can't disagree with much of what you say, which makes the 2006 season so exciting to talk about. Every single team has question marks. Because we don't know how well Leak is adapting to the spread, Florida can conceivably go 11-1 or 7-5. I could predict both and be confident. Tennessee could go 11-1 or 7-5. One thing I think for sure is that the SEC races will be tight and amazing.
(jakez4ut @ Jun 20 said:everybody has an opinion, right? but i do agree, for the first time in a couple of years, it's pretty wide open....UF's schedule is daunting, granted, but i'm almost hyping them up a bit so they will fall....i don't know that they'll lose 5 games, but 3-4 isn't out of the relm of possibilities considering who they play and where.
I don't give UGA a lot of credit because of the ? at qb. if they are one dimensional on offense, which i think and hope they will be, they'll lose to us, AUB and UF.
LSU...i don't trust Miles....but they only have 4 games that should even remotely worry them...Auburn, Bama, UF, TN...and ARK, if ARK is as improved as i think they will be...
Aub...their kind of the wild card....they usually suck out loud when we expect the world from them...like this year....but on paper, there are only two games that look like real road blocks...Florida and LSU....o/t than those two games, i'd bet they'll be favored in every other one.
As to the rest of the nation....everyone has ?'s...ND and OSU have defensive ?'s. TX has one at qb. OK should be much better, but is Rhet Bomar the guy to take them back to prominance, and is that D as good as it was 3-4 years ago?
USC...should be a reload job, but i can't see 'em undefeated...but only really 3 games on paper..ASU, Cal and ND...i would expect them to be able to beat at leat 2 of those teams.
and as for us, we may be the biggest ? in all of college football this season....i think we're just as capable of winning the SEC as we are of finishing 4th in the East....
99%? hm. i can live with that....i agree about UF and their early schedule...they won't lose, but they'll get tested. But even still, UF has the toughest schedule in the conf., no doubt.....(VolinArizona @ Jun 20 said:I agree with 99% of this post.
The 1% is I can see USC undefeated. Who knows if they will.
Florida has road games @ UT, Auburn, and Florida State. They have a neutral against Georgia. Then they have LSU at home.
But one thing is different for Florida this season. Usually, their first 2 games are against cupcakes, but they have Southern Miss and UCF, both of which should be bowl bound this season. Those teams will beat up on Florida more than Louisiana-Lafayette and D2 William and Mary ever could. This should be a huge advantage for the Vols. Then again, we have Cal.![]()
(VolinArizona @ Jun 20 said:I agree with 99% of this post.
The 1% is I can see USC undefeated. Who knows if they will.
Florida has road games @ UT, Auburn, and Florida State. They have a neutral against Georgia. Then they have LSU at home.
But one thing is different for Florida this season. Usually, their first 2 games are against cupcakes, but they have Southern Miss and UCF, both of which should be bowl bound this season. Those teams will beat up on Florida more than Louisiana-Lafayette and D2 William and Mary ever could. This should be a huge advantage for the Vols. Then again, we have Cal.![]()
no, but it does give you a chance to work on rythem and timing, and hopefully confidence....which for an offense like UF ran in the 90's, was huge...they got two games to work out the kinks before they played TN back then...that i always thought was a big reason why they looked sharper than we did....we'd play, then sit back and watch, and are supposed to be ready for a top 10 match up in the conference by the 2nd game of the season.(Vol423 @ Jun 20 said:I see it as an advantage for both UT and Florida to play non-cupcakes before the UT/Florida game. Playing cupcakes doesn't really give you a chance to honestly assess and address the strengths and weaknesses of your team.
(jakez4ut @ Jun 20 said:no, but it does give you a chance to work on rythem and timing, and hopefully confidence....which for an offense like UF ran in the 90's, was huge...they got two games to work out the kinks before they played TN back then...that i always thought was a big reason why they looked sharper than we did....we'd play, then sit back and watch, and are supposed to be ready for a top 10 match up in the conference by the 2nd game of the season.
cup cake or not, i'm glad we get more playing time early now...
I know I've mentioned it before... But Navy's 4th quarter drive against New Mexico in the Emerald Bowl is still a huge achievment.(GAVol @ Jun 20 said:As crazy as that sounds, it really could happen. They play a soft schedule, return a ton of starters and still run the triple option to perfection. Paul Johnson is an underrated head coach.
(milohimself @ Jun 20 said:Going into next season... I say they head into bowl season 8-4.
Georgia Southern won National Championships under Erk Russell long before Johnson took over.(Ohio Vol @ Jun 21 said:Interesting....I found a way to steer discussion toward Navy. Anyway, here's my reasons for giving them 12-0.
1) Navy runs their double slot offense nearly flawlessly; the entire playbook (with all variations) is only about 30 plays, and Navy doesn't even run that many. They picked out six or seven that work exceptionally well against any defense (triple, reverse triple, trap option w/ slotback, trap option w/ fullback, midline, midline lead, quick toss) and run them nonstop. There's no way to defend against every one of those plays, particularly one that will have as much practice experience as Navy...which leads to point
2) With such a limited playbook, the Midshipmen are able to run one play anywhere from 30-100 times in any given practice as a full team. This puts them at a huge advantage compared to teams with phonebook-sized playbooks, who can run a given play 3-10 times from a variety of formations
3) Speaking of formations...Navy opened last year's bowl game against Colorado State by running the same formation for 29 of the first 30 plays, and 30 of the first 35. The lack of formations means that Navy is better able to find a defense's tendencies and exploit them with...
4) The play action. Navy has no dropback passing and no sprint-out. They average over 300 rushing yards, and if the safeties aren't aggressive in run support then the defense gets gashed. If they are aggressive, a quick play action will make the defense adjust once again
5) How about these stats from last year? Their top 6 receivers averaged 10.33 catches (on the year), but the average yards per catch was 21.23. The top 11 rushers (9 of which return) averaged an insane 5.75 yards per carry...slotback Reggie (Mighty Mite) Campbell averaged 9 yards per carry, slotback Karlos Whittaker 7.8, and fullback Adam Ballard 6.1.
6) The playcalling doesn't favor one side or another (whether strong or weak, or field or boundary), which prevent a defense from stacking one way or another. If a defense does shift, Navy simply checks to the other side and they come away with a nice gain
7) Depth. The ease of learning the offense means more time getting reps and being better able to step in in the event of injury or other issues.
8) The schedule is incredibly weak; Notre Dame is the only game that I think could be a tossup. I'm not as impressed with Notre Dame as everyone else has been, and I do love a longshot. My pick for the Preakness was 12-1 Bernardini, and my Derby pick was 54-1 Bluegrass Cat (who finished 2nd). I love Navy in this game.
9) Paul Johnson put together a tremendous record at Georgia Southern with teams weaker in relation to the rest of their division than this....this is his most experienced team with the best players yet at nearly every position.
10) Adam Ballard is the prototype fullback for this offense; I never thought someone would make me forget Kyle Eckel, but this is definitely the one who can. Ballard could play any position on the field and excel and is the catalyst of the offense.
And there you have it....10 reasons for 12-0.
(Ohio Vol @ Jun 21 said:Interesting....I found a way to steer discussion toward Navy. Anyway, here's my reasons for giving them 12-0.
1) Navy runs their double slot offense nearly flawlessly; the entire playbook (with all variations) is only about 30 plays, and Navy doesn't even run that many. They picked out six or seven that work exceptionally well against any defense (triple, reverse triple, trap option w/ slotback, trap option w/ fullback, midline, midline lead, quick toss) and run them nonstop. There's no way to defend against every one of those plays, particularly one that will have as much practice experience as Navy...which leads to point
I wasn't discounting what he did at Ga. Southern. However, in the interest of full disclosure, I think it's fair to point out that he didn't build the program there.(Ohio Vol @ Jun 21 said:hatvol,
True, but it's not like Georgia Southern was winning games on talent in spite of their coaching. It's tough to discount his track record there when you see what he's done at Navy.
Oklavol,
I played in this offense, I coached this offense (not at Navy, although you'd better believe I'd jump at that chance), and a former teammate of mine played under Paul Johnson at Navy. Throw in the fact that I've been tracking Navy football for the last two years and it's a bit easier to pinpoint what they do, how often they do it, etc. It's not even as complicated as Nebraska's old I-formation option offense was.
(Ohio Vol @ Jun 20 said:I'll throw this fearless prediction out here now, so come December I can say that everyone else jumped on the bandwagon that I built and started driving.
After going into October 28 against Notre Dame unbeaten and emerging unbeaten, the Navy Midshipmen will go into the bowl season with a perfect 12-0 record.
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