Name Worley the starter now

#76
#76
Here's a novel idea. How about a fan website get behind their coach and give him more than one (1) day of full pads to make some decisions on who his starters will be. Maybe he wll make better decisions if he has at least more than one (1) day of full pads to evaluate players. Isn't half the team new?
 
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DC Vol said:
Better arm?

All I've honestly seen, and this is admittedly nothing compared to the UT staff, has been Dobbs airmailing passes to 6'3-6'4" WRs.

Potential doesn't mean anything if you don't reach it.

And I want Dobbs to be the guy, I just don't think he's going to be it.
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And Worley bounces the ball in front of the WR.

At least Dobbs can run.
 
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GahLee said:
Our QB's were only sacked 15 times last year. So I'm not sure where you're going with that comment.

Dobbs averaged over 5 yards a carry, that's pretty solid.

Both guys stare down WR's. Difference is, one was a freshmen and the other was a junior.
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I don't care if he is Herschel Walker when it comes to QB position. He threw more or an equal number of interceptions to TD's in all but one game. He mustered a whopping 2 TD passes all year.....Both against Kentucky.


Please rationalize how Dobbs is better when he cannot take the starting job from a guy you'd admit is not all SEC and he was our last starter? We all know Bray managed that feat over Simms who is an NFL player now! It isn't that dang hard to see.
 
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bigdaddy said:
We are definitely on the same page.
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Here you balance the reality of the experience of the team honing in on the timing and such with a starter vs. the diminution of competition. It may be a fair trade off. There might be value in having the team in a position to transition easily to the back up because of familiarity as well.

Its obviously a balancing act. Didn't mean to imply that discussion should not be had. The reality is that Jones is handling it as he is handling it. While we wouldn't want him to make decisions based on message board back and forth and media focus, it is apparent Coach is not tone deaf and more than that he IS very close to the critical factors that play into the decision. And obviously he will pay a price if he makes a monumentally bad decision.
 
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DD4ME said:
I don't care if he is Herschel Walker when it comes to QB position. He threw more or an equal number of interceptions to TD's in all but one game. He mustered a whopping 2 TD passes all year.....Both against Kentucky.


Please rationalize how Dobbs is better when he cannot take the starting job from a guy you'd admit is not all SEC and he was our last starter? We all know Bray managed that feat over Simms who is an NFL player now! It isn't that dang hard to see.
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The fact that Worley was replaced by Dobbs should tell you something.
 
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#81
Worley doesn't get credit for how productive we were prior to his injury. The only issue is we have no idea how much Dobbs has improved. Remember last year he was third string most of the season. That means he had very few reps with our receivers prior to being inserted. I agree that worley will probably win the job but trust butchs judgement and will be just as excited for the season if it happens to be dobbs
 
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NMVol said:
Here you balance the reality of the experience of the team honing in on the timing and such with a starter vs. the diminution of competition. It may be a fair trade off. There might be value in having the team in a position to transition easily to the back up because of familiarity as well.

Its obviously a balancing act. Didn't mean to imply that discussion should not be had. The reality is that Jones is handling it as he is handling it. While we wouldn't want him to make decisions based on message board back and forth and media focus, it is apparent Coach is not tone deaf and more than that he IS very close to the critical factors that play into the decision. And obviously he will pay a price if he makes a monumentally bad decision.
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The way I see it is that Dobbs has had more than enough time to prove he is better and neither one is all that great. So competition has proven nothing other than Worley is slightly better, and that's after a solid year of competition. Now our young team needs consistency so go with a guy and so be it.
 
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#83
We all hate Vandy. I believe we agree on that. Dobbs did not manage to throw a TD against Vandy. Something else to consider. There is only one game in his career that Worley has failed to throw a TD, Bama 2013. A game he didn't finish due to injury. On the other hand their is only one game in his career where Dobbs has managed to throw a TD, KY.
 
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I am honestly fine with Worley or Dobbs. Worley was starting to show glimpses last year prior to his injury and I personally think Dobbs played well as a true freshman while facing the gauntlet of SEC talent. Whether it's a senior or a sophomore, whichever QB truly gives us the best chance to win should be the starter. I trust Coach Jones and company will make the right decision.
 
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DD4ME said:
We all hate Vandy. I believe we agree on that. Dobbs did not manage to throw a TD against Vandy. Something else to consider. There is only one game in his career that Worley has failed to throw a TD, Bama 2013. A game he didn't finish due to injury. On the other hand their is only one game in his career where Dobbs has managed to throw a TD, KY.
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He was a true freshmen. Geez.
 
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Maggit pushing Dobbs to the ground in practice tells me all I need to know about who the leader of the team is.
 
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GahLee said:
The senior still hasn't taken the job that should be his. Pretty telling.
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Holy crap dude.

Dobbs got only 2nd team sets in the Spring game. He was the only QB to not get any 1st team sets IIRC. Even Peterman got one. Ferg got half of them.

Worley got only 1st team sets in the Spring game. He was the only QB to get only 1st team sets, IIRC.

Dobbs has been fighting it out with Peterman and a walk-on for 2nd team reps in Fall camp. Worley has, for the most part, gotten an overwhelming majority of 1st team reps in Fall camp.

Worley is the starter, for better or worse.

Or are you trolling? I honestly can't tell. The bar for trolling is very low and the bar for sheer "I'm ignoring facts and I'm sticking to my skewed opinion" is pretty high around here.

VN only barely edges out al.com sometimes.
 
#95
#95
I think you will see a starter named about a week before gameday. Then that guy can get all the reps with he first team and be ready. JMO There is so much swapping going on right now, you can't tell who is where on the depth chart
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GahLee said:
What?
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Dobbs threw a wide open slant for the first time in his budding career and then talked smack to Maggitt. Maggitt promptly bearclawed Dobbs' upstart @ss to the ground... because who talks smack over a TE beating a DE on a slant pass in a 1v1 drill? It seemed really try-hard to me when I saw it. I get Dobbs wants to try to assert himself as a leader, but that is not the way you do it.

It was almost like the skinny nerd that goes to prison that has heard "to get respect, you go up to the biggest guy and beat him" because it was in The New Guy it must be true. Then nerd promptly gets taken behind the shed.

You'd have seen all of this if you had been watching Fall Camp tape. Surprise surprise... GahLee is in the dark on this.
 
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#97
I have been more critical of and cautious about trusting Jones and this staff than most here. However, this is a decision and process that I FULLY support Jones in doing HIS way whether it is the way I would prefer or not. The constant whining that he won't let US in on the big secret is pretty ridiculous. Some of you say you trust the guy then question his method or ability for making what could easily be a decision that makes or breaks his tenure at UT. The wrong decision COULD POSSIBLY (not certainly) put him on a trajectory that will lead to ultimate failure. Jones knows that and is approaching that decision in the way HE believes in.

Worley is the leading candidate right now. All signs point in that direction. While I am sure they've been instructed not to comment on who they believe the starter will be, I would wager that the players to a man know that it is headed in that direction. Worley led RF with Dobbs and Peterman trailing coming out of the spring. By all reports, he's done all the right things since and has improved his game. I've seen absolutely nothing that conclusively indicates that anyone has closed ground on him.

Jones thinks you prepare ALL of your players best when you cultivate competition in practice. We'll likely see the same thing next year and every year until UT has a QB returning that led a successful team in the previous year without getting injured. He's creating pressure on these guys knowing they'll face pressure when it matters most.

There are very few ways in practice to simulate fear of losing or pressure to make a play to "win". This type of competition seems to be a way of creating pressure like that.
 
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DC Vol said:
Holy crap dude.

Dobbs got only 2nd team sets in the Spring game. He was the only QB to not get any 1st team sets IIRC. Even Peterman got one. Ferg got half of them.

Worley got only 1st team sets in the Spring game. He was the only QB to get only 1st team sets, IIRC.

Dobbs has been fighting it out with Peterman and a walk-on for 2nd team reps in Fall camp. Worley has, for the most part, gotten an overwhelming majority of 1st team reps in Fall camp.

Worley is the starter, for better or worse.

Or are you trolling? I honestly can't tell. The bar for trolling is very low and the bar for sheer "I'm ignoring facts and I'm sticking to my skewed opinion" is pretty high around here.

VN only barely edges out al.com sometimes.
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Has he been named the starter yet?
There shouldn't be any doubt at this point, he's the senior, he should be running away with it.

At any rate, I like Dobbs more. I think he fits the scheme better.
 
#99
#99
Are people forgetting that peterman is a soph.? He had one bad game. Everyone was crazy about riley but I think it's very telling he was the one to leave and not peterman. Maybe the coaches are seeing something that we aren't.
 
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