NASCAR bans the confederate flag

[DC_Vol]

I tried to “get” NASCAR years ago. I went to my first race at Charlotte. I think Dale Jr won for one of the fist times that night. It was 1999 or 2000. I was more entertained by the fans. I’ll never forget this one guy. He wasn’t wearing a shirt and had a confederate flag tattoo that covered his entire chest. He was pouring his beer into a half a plastic water bottle and he flipped off every car that passed him. Not sure who he was rooting for. Other than that, the constant left turns just didn’t excite me that much. No offense intended for you loyal fans. Everyone is different.

This is always exactly as I had imagined a NASCAR race.

 

[McDad]

As was said a day or so - it's fashioned like a noose but it isn't a noose; it is a garage pull.

It's like a lighter shaped like a gun; looks like a gun but isn't a gun.

That's a noose. I was in boy scouts. Knots are named and not simply for function. Square knot is square knot. Two half hitches, bowling, sheepshank, and noose all have a specific way to tie.

 

[n_huffhines]

A few pages before you were called gullible, you said some on here were desperate for it be a hoax...people who just wanted to wait and let the facts come out. But it is you that is desperate for it to be a true hate crime. How sick is that?

You know nothing about me. I am glad nothing racist happened and I never even said the words "hate crime". I did say the FBI's conclusion was "best case scenario". Try again, bro

 

[Mick]

As was said a day or so - it's fashioned like a noose but it isn't a noose; it is a garage pull.

It's like a lighter shaped like a gun; looks like a gun but isn't a gun.

So you, as well as many others, were spreading fake news about what the "knot" actually looked like. You should own that.

 

[BeecherVol]

Comedy Central move over.

 

[n_huffhines]

That's a noose. I was in boy scouts. Knots are named and not simply for function. Square knot is square knot. Two half hitches, bowling, sheepshank, and noose all have a specific way to tie.

I think bham is right, but all this confusion goes to show how stupid it is to act like people calling it a noose are trying go mislead anybody

 

[hmhawk]

It looks no different in terms of wraps as far as I can tell. Can you honestly look at that pic and say it's not half a dozen wraps?

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That's a better picture than the one I had seen. Thanks

 

[Bigun]

I tried to “get” NASCAR years ago. I went to my first race at Charlotte. I think Dale Jr won for one of the fist times that night. It was 1999 or 2000. I was more entertained by the fans. I’ll never forget this one guy. He wasn’t wearing a shirt and had a confederate flag tattoo that covered his entire chest. He was pouring his beer into a half a plastic water bottle and he flipped off every car that passed him. Not sure who he was rooting for. Other than that, the constant left turns just didn’t excite me that much. No offense intended for you loyal fans. Everyone is different.

I got into it in the 90's once one of my friends told me that it's much better if you have a favorite driver or two, or one that you hate, and then also follow the racing strategy. Once Earnhardt died I didn't watch much anymore because their wasn't that polarizing figure anymore.

However BW could become that, sounds like that what he wants too.

 

[McDad]

I think bham is right, but all this confusion goes to show how stupid it is to act like people calling it a noose are trying go mislead anybody

Bham is wrong. I live my life by that principle and it has yet to fail me.

 

[Y9 Vol]

Well, well, well...it was a noose. So did Bubba "double down on stupid" when he reiterated that it was a noose?... @Weezer was he trying to perpetuate that racism was at play by correctly calling it a noose?...or did people here ironically and erroneously jump to conclusions after getting so worked up about people jumping to conclusions?


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Christ, it was NOT targeted at anyone. Stop the BS.

 

[n_huffhines]

Christ, it was NOT targeted at anyone. Stop the BS.

I didn't say that it was. You don't understand the conversation so go back and read it or butt out.

 

[Y9 Vol]

I didn't say that it was. You don't understand the conversation so go back and read it or butt out.

My comment directly addresses the convo. But, if it makes you feel better, you can think it does not.

 

[Ernest T. Vol]

You know nothing about me. I am glad nothing racist happened and I never even said the words "hate crime". I did say the FBI's conclusion was "best case scenario". Try again, bro

LOL. Yea, I know some things about you. You got a better education growing up at the kitchen table than most people can formally buy. Yet, you insist on being liberally obtuse and willingly duped. But, keep going. Reverend Al hasn't given up and you shouldn't either.

 

[n_huffhines]

My comment directly addresses the convo. But, if it makes you feel better, you can think it does not.

You completely invented a position for me, so I don't think you know what's going on. I am not saying the event was targeted at anyone. That has nothing to do with the conversation.

 

[volinbham]

So you, as well as many others, were spreading fake news about what the "knot" actually looked like. You should own that.

I was not - can you show me the posts where I did what you accuse?

 

[n_huffhines]

LOL. Yea, I know some things about you. You got a better education growing up at the kitchen table than most people can formally buy. Yet, you insist on being liberally obtuse and willingly duped. But, keep going. Reverend Al hasn't given up and you shouldn't either.

Well, you went from straw man to personal attacks. At least you're changing up after a failed approach, I guess.

 

[Ernest T. Vol]

Well, you went from straw man to personal attacks. At least you're changing up after a failed approach, I guess.

Don't guess, find a position. You are a man with a hammer looking for a nail. Keep looking. If you cant find it today, maybe tomorrow.

 

[volinbham]

That's a noose. I was in boy scouts. Knots are named and not simply for function. Square knot is square knot. Two half hitches, bowling, sheepshank, and noose all have a specific way to tie.

wouldn't the tying of a noose require that it is tied so as to slide/constrict/loosen? that's not a function issue, it's a how it's tied issue.

tying a pull in a why that constricts when it is pulled from the loop would defeat the purpose of being a pull since it would tighten on your hand each time you pulled the door down and you'd have to loosen it to use it each time.

In the examples here, the noose constricts when pulled while loops (like the Bimini Twist Knot, Rapala Knot and Surgeon's Loop Knot) maintain the same loop size when pulled.

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[VolStrom]

Don't guess, find a position. You are a man with a hammer looking for a nail. Keep looking. If you cant find it today, maybe tomorrow.

Well at least he didn't scream "racist" or "nazi" the two most overused words in American history.

 

[VolStrom]

wouldn't the tying of a noose require that it is tied so as to slide/constrict/loosen? that's not a function issue, it's a how it's tied issue.

tying a pull in a why that constricts when it is pulled from the loop would defeat the purpose of being a pull since it would tighten on your hand each time you pulled the door down and you'd have to loosen it to use it each time.

In the examples here, the noose constricts when pulled while loops (like the Bimini Twist Knot, Rapala Knot and Surgeon's Loop Knot) maintain the same loop size when pulled.

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Bubba Wallace is just another Jussie Smollett wanna be hate crime victim. He got his 15 minutes of fame and now it's time for him to fade away.

 

[volinbham]

Bubba Wallace is just another Jussie Smollett wanna be hate crime victim. He got his 15 minutes of fame and now it's time for him to fade away.

I don't agree with that. I get why the mistake was made but that's what it was; a mistake. It got out of hand.

 

[Ernest T. Vol]

I don't agree with that. I get why the mistake was made but that's what it was; a mistake. It got out of hand.

and yet wouldn't you agree that nascar had to know in short order what the situation was and allowed it to progress?

 

[TheDeeble]

and yet wouldn't you agree that nascar had to know in short order what the situation was and allowed it to progress?

They're not going to dismiss a racism claim against the only black driver. Protesters would show up at races and probably try to run out onto the track.

Yea, they probably knew what was happening but since the media, twitter warriors, and cancel culture can't be told no, they're just going to give in and let things run it's course.

 

[DynaLo]

They're not going to dismiss a racism claim against the only black driver. Protesters would show up at races and probably try to run out onto the track.

Yea, they probably knew what was happening but since the media, twitter warriors, and cancel culture can't be told no, they're just going to give in and let things run it's course.

Braking distance sucks at 180 mph.

 

[Ernest T. Vol]

They're not going to dismiss a racism claim against the only black driver. Protesters would show up at races and probably try to run out onto the track.

Yea, they probably knew what was happening but since the media, twitter warriors, and cancel culture can't be told no, they're just going to give in and let things run it's course.

I think they knew and the situation was manipulated to get this picture... which I would have no problem with if the alleged noose thang was authentic.