'21 NC DE Jahvaree Ritzie (UNC commit)

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GregAmsler said:
That doesn't hurt Florida. Miami and Florida State winning helps them take talent from Florida (and, in the case of FSU, hurts Georgia too).
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I would argue FSU being strong also hurts Alabama and Auburn as well. When FSU is strong they seem to pull a top player every year from Alabama, and it keeps some Florida kids at home who might be inclined to go to Alabama if FSU was down. FSU is also really strong in South Georgia, which can really hurt the Pups and Auburn.

A strong FSU can be negative for us in the Carolinas and Atlanta, but I'd argue we have a home-field advantage in those locales over the Noles and if they choose FSU over UT then they probably weren't coming to UT anyway. Better they go to FSU than Clemson, UGA, UF, AU, UA etc. Clearly the benefits of a strong FSU greatly outweigh the negatives.
 
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Hyperion said:
I would argue FSU being strong also hurts Alabama and Auburn as well. When FSU is strong they seem to pull a top player every year from Alabama, and it keeps some Florida kids at home who might be inclined to go to Alabama if FSU was down. FSU is also really strong in South Georgia, which can really hurt the Pups and Auburn.

A strong FSU can be negative for us in the Carolinas and Atlanta, but I'd argue we have a home-field advantage in those locales over the Noles and if they choose FSU over UT then they probably weren't coming to UT anyway. Better they go to FSU than Clemson, UGA, UF, AU, UA etc. Clearly the benefits of a strong FSU greatly outweigh the negatives.
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I am typically not a fan of the sentiment a stronger so and so is better for us.

In my mind we want to be stronger than everyone. A stronger (insert whoever) is never better. We recruit against anyone and everyone, from Alabama to Georgia to Auburn to UNC to FSU to Oregon. Anyone we are recruiting against, we shouldn't wish them to be strong. UNC takes from us. FSU takes from us. Alabama takes from us. ETC...

FSU is down. Miami is down. Yet still Mullen can't capitilize. He should be KILLING it. Yet he isn't.

If FSU is on the uprise, we don't wind up with Malichi Wideman or Morven Joseph. So in my mind, a "strong" FSU isn't better for us. That can be said time and time again. I never wish for any team to be strong.
 
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VOLuptuousBOOMS said:
I am typically not a fan of the sentiment a stronger so and so is better for us.

In my mind we want to be stronger than everyone. A stronger (insert whoever) is never better. We recruit against anyone and everyone, from Alabama to Georgia to Auburn to UNC to FSU to Oregon. Anyone we are recruiting against, we shouldn't wish them to be strong. UNC takes from us. FSU takes from us. Alabama takes from us. ETC...

FSU is down. Miami is down. Yet still Mullen can't capitilize. He should be KILLING it. Yet he isn't.

If FSU is on the uprise, we don't wind up with Malichi Wideman or Morven Joseph. So in my mind, a "strong" FSU isn't better for us. That can be said time and time again. I never wish for any team to be strong.
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The reality is there will always be quality competition somewhere. I'd rather it be in places that are less likely to hurt UT over the long run. Of course that's ideal but you're naive if you deny a cause and effect in recruiting based upon who is on top and who isn't. Subsequently that tends to manifest itself on the field. Would UT have been as hurt if it had been FSU or Miami having this run instead of Clemson? The answer is obvious.

Naturally the best solution is for UT to kick ass on its own and dominate on the recruiting front. When UT is consistently competing for conference title then the talent coming here will be even better than the 90s teams. With the SEC viewed as the best conference nationwide, our national recruiting will be easier than it ever was in the 90s. There was a lot more national competition back in those days. All it will take is UT being on top, but we have to get there first. I believe this staff will do big things.

Recruiting will ultimately be Mullen's downfall. I suspect he's a guy who will always be between 8 to 10 wins at UF. High floor, low ceiling for what they want in Gainesville.
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
I’d feel much better about him than JG going into this year. If we land JT Daniels, it’s all good, though. Bailey can take over after he leaves.
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I really wish people would get past that. I mean no disrespect. I’m just saying that there’s no guarantee that he would be granted eligibility first of all. Even then he would still have to have selected us first so...
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
The guy is almost 70 years old and hasn’t done anything noteworthy on the field yet. He’s got a good class, but if they don’t win, it won’t matter and UNC will fade back to irrelevance.
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UNC wants to believe he is their Rick Barnes.
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
The guy is almost 70 years old and hasn’t done anything noteworthy on the field yet. He’s got a good class, but if they don’t win, it won’t matter and UNC will fade back to irrelevance.
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Look I get it, and it's easy to oversimplify and throw out quick retorts about his age but Mack isn't some chump. A lot of you forget that he's coached in a national championship game in the last decade, he's coached in 2 since we've played in our last. He isn't going to fade away. He's built a good staff and is recruiting lights out in a division that's likely the most winnable in the entire nation. Mack is going to win and I'd be willing to bet my salary on it.
 
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NorthCackVol said:
Look I get it, and it's easy to oversimplify and throw out quick retorts about his age but Mack isn't some chump. A lot of you forget that he's coached in a national championship game in the last decade, he's coached in 2 since we've played in our last. He isn't going to fade away. He's built a good staff and is recruiting lights out in a division that's likely the most winnable in the entire nation. Mack is going to win and I'd be willing to bet my salary on it.
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Mack couldn’t win with the most talent in the country after he lost the ship. What would make that change as he got older and away from football? There was never a doubt he could recruit but he also underachieved a lot in his last years at Texas (aka why he was fired).
 
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Wickman said:
Mack couldn’t win with the most talent in the country after he lost the ship. What would make that change as he got older and away from football? There was never a doubt he could recruit but he also underachieved a lot in his last years at Texas (aka why he was fired).
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Sad but this is the Barnes argument haha. Ya just never know what could happen, especially when in the acc (football) or sec (basketball).

But mack imo is closer to reretiring than Barnes is to hanging it up. We will have more years with Rick.
 
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