'25 NC OT David Sanders (Tennessee)

[vols 30]

315 dead lift isn’t impressive I’m 38 and can dead lift 500 easily

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

He’s also not deadlifting. He is powercleaning, but not deadlift. Congratulations on your 500 lb deadlift though!

Also most people are far stronger at 38 than 18 so that comment is a head-scratcher. If we were talking speed or flexibility that’s another thing.

 

[GVol1966]

Meh. He's not the only one that did this, we're not the only program to go thru this. And from all accounts this has more to do with outside influence than himself. By all accounts, this is where he wants to be.

The kids has options. It'd be dumb not to explore them all before he puts pen to paper.

As a fan, I'm with ya. Vol or not. But I would be doing the same thing if I were in his position.

Right. Every school goes through it.
Every player should explore all options and take all visits.
Where the Drama, and fan blowback comes in is using the word committed when you’re still exploring options.

Stop saying committed until you actually are, that’s what I’d do.

 

[DaddyChad]

Dang, you ditched the torches and just set the pitchforks on fire? Bold, but efficient!

Nothing says GTFO like fiery pitchforks.

 

[WesTnVol]

I was 20 also. I turned 20 in November of 85. I didn’t make that sugar bowl but I did in 1991 against Virginia. Just turned 60 this year. Man times flies.

Watched the game (27) with my pregnant wife, who was carrying twins. They were born 4 days later. Needless to say they’re both big fans from before being born

 

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Don’t know if it’s been posted but all the kids from his school have been signed. He’s not waiting on some event to “sign with them.” That explanation is false.

 

[tn4elvis]

At his size there are much better exercises than deadlifts. With much lower risk of injury.

K

 

[UTvol1fn]

If we do eventually sign Sanders, he better be an immediate impact player or he'll catch extra grief after all the drama of his late recruitment.

 

[Vols410]

So

LT: Heard
LG: Karic
C: Satterwhite
RG: Transfer
RT: Sanders Jr or Warren

Do we expect Karic back? Thought he was a senior.

 

[Garren04]

Do we expect Karic back? Thought he was a senior.

appealing

 

[WesTnVol]

When you're talking this level of money, I suspect the family has advisors and reps. Wouldn't call them "leeches"...although it does kinda fit. Still, the point is that even with my level of education, I don't think I'd feel comfortable operating in that arena much like an attorney considering popping into the OR and picking up a scalpel. Kinda feel sorry for the kid. It's supposed to be about HIM and HIS FUTURE. He's likely getting off to be around his buddies wishing this whole thing would just end so he can finally move forward. Instead, he's facing scrutiny and social media critics for something I doubt he has a lot of control over. Just sad....although it's been going on in one form or another for decades. UT aside, I hope the kid gets to go where he really wants to play and his career works out as he's always dreamed it would. If that's OSU, good for him. Grab your dream. It's gonna be over before you can blink twice.

The saddest part of all this if it’s true about the “friends,agents,managers” they’re not going to go away. He will have to deal with these people the rest of his life unless he gets some STRONGER people around him to help send them packing.

Charles Barkley tells the story of Grant Hills mom giving him advice “don’t give family,friends or hangers ons money, ever, they will never stop asking for money and will turn on you the minute you do stop”. He goes on to say he didn’t take that advice till years later and she was absolutely correct and it cost him dearly.

 

[jpope9]

I don’t get it, how would this be trolling Vols?

I assume the shoes.

 

[bpalmer28]

Dang, you ditched the torches and just set the pitchforks on fire? Bold, but efficient!

lol good catch

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

appealing

With others getting granted their 8th freakin season it should be no problem. GBO

 

[PEPPERJAX]

So

LT: Heard
LG: Karic
C: Satterwhite
RG: Transfer
RT: Sanders Jr or Warren

Sham?

 

[therickbol]

Perry is ahead of Warren. If Sanders isn’t the RT, it’s probably Perry. In fact, it’s more likely to be LJ3 than Warren, at this point.

And I wouldn’t discount Sham winning the RG spot.

But...... star rankings?!?!

 

[bpalmer28]

Some of y'all are betas. Absolutely everyone in a position to know has said there's no reason to worry about Sanders. It's like you enjoy the handwringing.

This has always been an interesting topic to me. Since I try to be kind and respectful, and since I usually yield to others' opinions to keep the peace - I'm considered a beta male, right?

But when I hold a choke hold or arm lock longer than necessary because alpha boy is a dick, am I still the beta? Or do I switch to alpha for a couple seconds and then switch back to beta when I start being polite?

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

315 dead lift isn’t impressive I’m 38 and can dead lift 500 easily

 

[bpalmer28]

315 dead lift isn’t impressive I’m 38 and can dead lift 500 easily

I'm 38 and I'm scared to find out how much I can dead lift because my back would likely snap in half if I put more than 225 on the bar, so 315 is impressive to me! 500 is insane. You must be a gorilla.

 

[bpalmer28]

Do we expect Karic back? Thought he was a senior.

He has a 6th year if they give him the covid year. He took a true redshirt in 2020.

 

[therickbol]

I think I shared a little earlier in this recruitment. I got a few more details today. Nothing earth shattering. The person negotiating and driving the demands is not David or his parents. We knew that. The NIL number is $1.8M over 3 years. The "agent" pushed him to take trip to OSU and while he was up there they asked for the same thing they asked for from UT. $4M and fully guaranteed plus an annuity after he leaves UT. You gotta shoot your shot I guess, lol. Not surprisingly OSU gave them the same answer that UT gave them, no. The young man and his family whole-heartedly want to be at UT.

 

[knoxvol52]

315 dead lift? I dont see a clean movement, although he is in position to do so.

Also, at 6'5" 300 is 315 deadlift that great? Has some work to do, before being a starter.

Kid has first round potential. Also, was my understanding he has purposely kept weight off for other sports.

Well I really don't like to brag but I can curl 12 ounces numerous times, until I pass out.

 

[bpalmer28]

Sham?

I'm no expert at these things but reading tea leaves I'd say the coaches consider him a depth piece at this stage of his development. And there's no shame in that. He's only in his 2nd year. If he's the 1st OG off the bench in year 3 that's something to be proud of.

 

[sonofUT62]

I think I shared a little earlier in this recruitment. I got a few more details today. Nothing earth shattering. The person negotiating and driving the demands is not David or his parents. We knew that. The NIL number is $1.8M over 3 years. The "agent" pushed him to take trip to OSU and while he was up there they asked for the same thing they asked for from UT. $4M and fully guaranteed plus an annuity after he leaves UT. You gotta shoot your shot I guess, lol. Not surprisingly OSU gave them the same answer that UT gave them, no. The young man and his family whole-heartedly want to be at UT.

I keep seeing this point made about how it’s not the family. The family has chosen this person to represent them. Sanders CHOSE to go on the visit. Is the agent / representative negotiating without the consent of the family?? If so that would be grounds for immediate termination in my line of work. It’s absolutely the family that’s doing this because they can put a stop to it at any point they desire. And now it turns out that the story of the signing day with his teammates may be bull****???

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

I'm no expert at these things but reading tea leaves I'd say the coaches consider him a depth piece at this stage of his development. And there's no shame in that. He's only in his 2nd year. If he's the 1st OG off the bench in year 3 that's something to be proud of.

He was competing with Karic for the LG spot. They see him as a guy that can start...he's pretty close to being ready. Sham has a good shot at winning a starting spot at RG and his starting odds go up if Karic doesn't win his appeal.