'25 NC OT David Sanders (Tennessee)

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Is it really being debated the legitimacy of these PAT "injuries"? Good grief, man, it's clear as day and I can predict it every time it happens. So, either I'm Nostradamus, or it's staged in an effort to buy the defense a few extra minutes of rest when we score quickly on offense, or produce a defensive or STs score.

You watch next time we score within 3 plays on offense or score on defense or STs (other than an opening half KO), and see if we don't have someone get "injured" on a PAT. I can't believe this is a real discussion.
 
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LittleVol said:
Rewatch the PATs.

It’s almost an after thought play the extra point- but the leg locking does put the body in compromising positions.

Again there’s commercial breaks after the kick. Those are 5 minutes minimum before kickoff. Which NO lineman are on btw. So then that’s 7-minutes from the end of a scoring drive till the defense has to take the field to rest…

If you don’t want to believe that, than just rewatch the PATs.

They’re not faking. But think what you will.
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I think PATs don't have about a 90% injury rate, usually to one player lol
 
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LittleVol said:
Rewatch the PATs.

It’s almost an after thought play the extra point- but the leg locking does put the body in compromising positions.

Again there’s commercial breaks after the kick. Those are 5 minutes minimum before kickoff. Which NO lineman are on btw. So then that’s 7-minutes from the end of a scoring drive till the defense has to take the field to rest…

If you don’t want to believe that, than just rewatch the PATs.

They’re not faking. But think what you will.
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I actually can't believe you think they're not faking it.

It's a genius move by Heupel to do it honestly, I love it.
 
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walkenvol said:
Didn’t realize it mattered - left vs right?
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It matters...they are different positions with different responsibilities depending on the Offensive shame. They types of athletes they will face up to. Their responsibilities in blocking. handedness also plays a factor. I honestly think there is probably more of a difference in RG and LG than RT/LT. Depending on the 'handedness' of your offense one will pull a lot more than the other. So, if you have a left-handed offense your right guard might need to be more athletic than your left guard. Also they start in different stances different hand in the ground.. this can make a big difference. Much like LT's LG's get paid a lot more on average in the NFL.

The LG is usually more athletic because most college football offenses are right-handed. He is also going to be pulling more often. thing of a RG like a NT and and LG as a DT. Or to put it more clear LG is Warren Sapp/Aaron Donald RG is Vita Vea/Vince Wilfork.

Funny experiment name 5 OG's in the NFL I bet most of them will be LG's. I was going through ha list of the top guards in the NFL... I knew quite a few of the LG names. I recognized one RG.
 
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ionaVOL said:
Just for clarity… no one thinks that our OL actually get injured on the PATs right? I hope we are all on the same page here, at this point the only ones that shouldn’t be aware of this phenomenon are the broadcasters that never seem to pick up on it..
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Actually, I hear the announcers talk about it most times it happens. I guess it depends on which commentators you're listening to? Usually, the radio/local guys are less likely to mention such things if its a home game. TV guys normally will and have more realtime info coming in. I actually noticed it was an actual trend from the announcers mentioning it all the time. I normally am not watching the XP's enough to pay that much attention that's drink refill time so I might hear it but wont see it.
 
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LittleVol said:
Rewatch the PATs.

It’s almost an after thought play the extra point- but the leg locking does put the body in compromising positions.

Again there’s commercial breaks after the kick. Those are 5 minutes minimum before kickoff. Which NO lineman are on btw. So then that’s 7-minutes from the end of a scoring drive till the defense has to take the field to rest…

If you don’t want to believe that, than just rewatch the PATs.

They’re not faking. But think what you will.
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Clueless
 
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NighthawkVol said:
That’s right. It was the NC State game when he got legitimately hurt. He got rolled up on very awkwardly and I thought that he was done for the season. I remember being very surprised when he was able to come back so quickly. Thought it was the Oklahoma game when he returned, but I guess it was the next game. Anyway, the fact that his leg was bent that way, and he only missed one game speaks to the opposite of him being injury prone. A lot of guys would have missed the season with their leg being bent that way for a guy that size.

I’m sorry if I come off too hard on you for the PAT stuff. I appreciate your input on this board. But it’s quite obviously fake, so I’m surprised, more than anything, that you think otherwise. Consider that no other team has this many injuries on PAT’s. Or that it’s the same designated guy every season Or that the injured guy never missed the next PAT/FG, even after the long drawn out dramatic stoppage that takes place for his gruesome “injury.” He miraculously recovers from these devastating injuries every single time. I just thought we were all in on the joke.

I’d be interested to see the percentage of times a UT lineman goes down on PATs vs. all other plays. It’s way out of whack.

Regardless, I don’t think Sham is injury prone. The PAT stuff was fake, so we’re left with one play on which anyone would have been injured and he recovered quickly.
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This year the SEC instituted the fine for faking injuries.

Since Sham has a well-documented knee injury from the NC State game he is the obvious pick to nurse the knee after a PAT when we need a breather for the defense. You can't accuse or fine us for faking, because he's got a legitimately tender knee this year. It's kind of fool proof.
 
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SoilVol said:
This year the SEC instituted the fine for faking injuries.

Since Sham has a well-documented knee injury from the NC State game he is the obvious pick to nurse the knee after a PAT when we need a breather for the defense. You can't accuse or fine us for faking, because he's got a legitimately tender knee this year. It's kind of fool proof.
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Good observation.
 
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LittleVol said:
I don’t think anyone here has said they get hurt every time.

Sham was injured during the UTEP game irrc.
Not on the PAT. But late in the game.

I assumed it was because he was dealing with an injury. The same thing he had been dealing with on PATs (or so I thought).
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He’s going down to give the defense more time to rest. It’s pretty predictable when it’s going to happen. Heupel always comes out and then he comes off the field. It’s intentional.
 
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