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Tallman said:
Our team has enough tallent to win. What they have been lacking is believing they can win. I believe we now have the coaching staff that can teach and motivate this team to be winners.
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Not against anything but mid-majors and bad SEC teams. We bring back almost our entire defense, who has experience, but it's also been proven that they flat out suck. We return most of our offensive line, who was good last year. That's probably the brightest spot on the team. Both our running backs return, but neither has been particularly impressive. With Bray, Hunter, Patterson and ZR gone, we've lost all the guys who accounted for the overwhelming majority of our points last year.
 
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#27
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Webbvol32 said:
Why is virtually everyone saying we will be lucky to win 6? We are TENNESSEE! We BARELY lost to Florida,UGa,and SoCar! If not for Dools incompetence,we could`ve won 11 games! We don`t suck THAT bad. Don`t yall realize football is an emotional sport? When we got Doolied in the Fla game,most of the kids got depressed and stopped giving 110%. After the Uga debacle,they ALL did. Our team realized they had zero chance at anything besides the Nashville Bowl and juust didn`t have anything to play for. Now,we did lose our offensive PASSING firepower,but WE RETURN THE ENTIRE RUSHING OFFENSE virtually. WE RETURN NEARLY THE ENTIRE D! Our weak spots are QB and WR. We have a load of talent at those positions. We may find that they turn into strengths. YOU NEVER KNOW TILL THE GAMES ARE PLAYED! Why EVERYONE wants to say they`ll be happy with 6 ws is beyond me! We will contend for the SEC EAST! GO VOLS!
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The reason many people think that winning 6 games will be good is because although we lost several S.E.C. games by a few point, we have lost alot of our offense.

Bray, a proven q.b. is gone and we don't know what Worley or Peterman can do.

We lost our starting T.E. and replacements have taken few snaps. So, they are unproven.

We lost our top three receivers and their replacements have taken few snaps.

We lost a tremendous linebacker in Herman Lathers.

We have a new coaching staff and we don't know what they can/will do in certain situations.

Also, I a quiet sure that USC, UGA, Missouri, Miss State, & Florida will improve during the off season, but I am not sure we will. Yes, we will improve on the coaching staff merely by addition by subtraction. Dooley & Sal gone = improvement.

Also, our schedule is more difficult than it was last season.

All of these factors cause people to feel that 6 victories is just about right.

However; I am sure no one saw the 13 game improvement from Buzz's last season to Pearl's first season. So, it is possible that we can improve, just by better coaching of our players. Pearl did it!!!!
 
#28
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If we stay healthy:

Great Coach Wins 9
Good Coach Wins 8
Average Coach Wins 7
Bad Coach Wins 6 or less

We'll see what kind of coach we have next season.

If we get a lot of injuries then all goes out the window.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
If we stay healthy:

Great Coach Wins 9
Good Coach Wins 8
Average Coach Wins 7
Bad Coach Wins 6 or less

We'll see what kind of coach we have next season.

If we get a lot of injuries then all goes out the window.
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Looks about right.

Only thing I'd change...Great Coach 9 or more.
 
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Webbvol32 said:
I concur. We very well may go 4-8,but I don`t see it happening. We will beat everyone we are supposed to and get at least 1 upset and a bowl win. That`s 8-9-10 wins. I don`t believe we will annihilate everyone we play,but we HAVE A LEGIT SHOT AT WINNING 9-10 GAMES!

Oregon is overrated.

Fla is vulnerable. {SNIP}
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Those two things pretty much invalidated the rest of your post.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
I really hate how many people say "we" in every post. As if they are the ones playing on the field.
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Well, I love it. That is what makes this place great. Tennessee football is part of who I am. The team, fans, and city are a huge family. Tennessee football isn't just a Saturday thing for me. It's a part of me and a whole hell of a lot of other people and together we are "We".
 
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BigOrangeD said:
If we stay healthy:

Great Coach Wins 9
Good Coach Wins 8
Average Coach Wins 7
Bad Coach Wins 6 or less

We'll see what kind of coach we have next season.

If we get a lot of injuries then all goes out the window.
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I disagree with this 100%. In 2007 Nick Saban, the best college football coach of this generation, took over an Alabama team with considerably more talent than this year's UT team, played an easier schedule, and only won 6 games. Saying that Jones has to win 8 games to be a "good" coach is just setting him up for failure. Even winning 6 games would mean he beat all the teams his squad was more talented than, and also beat one team with equal or more talent. Wouldn't than qualify him as a good coach?
 
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Realistic to expect 7 or 8 W's with the bowl game. 9 W's and Im totaly psyched, no bowl and its back to the post Grude fetal position...dont get me wrong - I believe. Im not however insane. WE will be back,GBO!
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
I really hate how many people say "we" in every post. As if they are the ones playing on the field.
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So Tennessee is not your team? Tennessee is my team and If the VOLs are not your team, then get off the board and don't post any more. Tennessee was MY team long before I attended there in 1956 and will always be my team. If you don't like it, you will have to live with it or go somewhere else.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I disagree with this 100%. In 2007 Nick Saban, the best college football coach of this generation, took over an Alabama team with considerably more talent than this year's UT team, played an easier schedule, and only won 6 games. Saying that Jones has to win 8 games to be a "good" coach is just setting him up for failure. Even winning 6 games would mean he beat all the teams his squad was more talented than, and also beat one team with equal or more talent. Wouldn't than qualify him as a good coach?
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Beating teams we have more talent than and one that we're on equal footing with equals good?

Thats average.

Good is beating all those plus winning the majority of em that you're on equal footing with.

Not even gonna comment on the dwarf and his band of merry inbreds.
 
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gnm53108 said:
Beating teams we have more talent than and one that we're on equal footing with equals good?

Thats average.

Good is beating all those plus winning the majority of em that you're on equal footing with.

Not even gonna comment on the dwarf and his band of merry inbreds.
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This simply doesn't happen in college football. You have to recruit SEC level players before you start winning on a weekly basis, and that takes time. That's why I referenced Saban. If the SEC mountain was even too tough for the best coach of this generation to climb in his first year, then expecting Jones to do it with a lesser team than Saban had to start out with is sheer insanity. Having unrealistic expectations (and trust me, thinking this team is capable of 8 wins is unrealistic) just sets Jones up for failure from day one.
 
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Webbvol32 said:
And yall need to all start planning on helping TENNESSEE break Bammers record for spring game attendance! We need all the publicity we can get! We need to show our coaches,players,AND THE NATION WE ARE THE BEST FANS ON EARTH! GO VOLS!
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This should have 107,000 likes in my opinion
 
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original poster is a negateer. what's this "contend for the sec east" crap?

14-0. national champs. smothering defense. unstoppable offense. best coaching staff in america.

with the team tennessee has, there are actually people out there who think oregon, florida, georgia, alabama, and south carolina are some sort of challenge.

tennessee was the last team to go unbeaten and unscored on and they do it again in 2013.

if you don't think so, you're just a negateer like the original poster.
 
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I just want us to knock off one of our four yearly rivals. We have UGA and USCe at home and I would be happy with a split. Last year was a good chance to make a little noise.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
This simply doesn't happen in college football. You have to recruit SEC level players before you start winning on a weekly basis, and that takes time. That's why I referenced Saban. If the SEC mountain was even too tough for the best coach of this generation to climb in his first year, then expecting Jones to do it with a lesser team than Saban had to start out with is sheer insanity. Having unrealistic expectations (and trust me, thinking this team is capable of 8 wins is unrealistic) just sets Jones up for failure from day one.
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Lets just say I disagree with this. I think you're selling all our boys on the current roster short.

One other thing...My expectations and your lack of won't have anything to do with whether CBJ fails or not.
 
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99gator said:
original poster is a negateer. what's this "contend for the sec east" crap?

14-0. national champs. smothering defense. unstoppable offense. best coaching staff in america.

with the team tennessee has, there are actually people out there who think oregon, florida, georgia, alabama, and south carolina are some sort of challenge.

tennessee was the last team to go unbeaten and unscored on and they do it again in 2013.

if you don't think so, you're just a negateer like the original poster.
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I think georgia is gonna be a tough one.
 
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nagle said:
what the hell is this. Vandy only has 2 fans, you can make #3.
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I think what was meant by the dislike of "we are tennessee" comment is that it doesn't mean squat.

Tennessee was Tennessee in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and it didn't matter.

I think that poster wants a little more reassurance going into 2013 than "we are tennessee"
 
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#47
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The OP is a VFL in my book. Don't understand all the heat thrown his way over what he said.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I disagree with this 100%. In 2007 Nick Saban, the best college football coach of this generation, took over an Alabama team with considerably more talent than this year's UT team, played an easier schedule, and only won 6 games. Saying that Jones has to win 8 games to be a "good" coach is just setting him up for failure. Even winning 6 games would mean he beat all the teams his squad was more talented than, and also beat one team with equal or more talent. Wouldn't than qualify him as a good coach?
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If he wins 6 and then does what Saban has done, then OK.
 
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