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ballou1024 said:
One name not being mentioned or considered is ex-Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris. Has college coaching experience was a defensive backs coach at Cornell and defensive coordinator at Kansas State. Would be a home run hire IMO!
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smart man, ive been saying all along him or mora are the only 2 guys that turn us around quickly. both are intense guys which is why hart won't go after them. looks to me like he wants somebody he can control.
 
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Sports Crusie said:
When you have nothing that looks like a team , you have to start over. The Vols have a great O, don't you think 4 defensive backs would have helped ?? That is what the Vols need.
Who do you think would be dumb enough to come here knowing what is at UT?? He would have to be offered a 15 yr contract with a double buy out if fired within 4 years . It will take another 4 years to get the talent that is needed at UT . There are only 2 coaches that I know of that could go to Knoxville and do that .
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You do realize we had a top 20 defense before sunseri right? We have talent just need a coach that isn't complete garbage.
 
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champyvol said:
smart man, ive been saying all along him or mora are the only 2 guys that turn us around quickly. both are intense guys which is why hart won't go after them. looks to me like he wants somebody he can control.
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So he's going after Gundy, and he's not intense? I would say his primary concern is who can be successful, not who he can control.
 
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Criteria for a Coaching Candidate

Success as a head coach- if he hasn't dominated in a smaller program, he won't dominate at Tennessee. Good coaches win, wherever they are.

They can be highly popular with the kids, hot sauce and all, but if they are not winners, it doesn't matter. Auburn had enough hot sauce to choke a Mexican, got all kinds of top recruits, and did not win one SEC game this year. A boring, good coach, can hire assistants who are good recruiters, but a great recruiter who does not know how to coach to produce wins, is lost no matter how many great players he has. Mark Richt will NEVER win it all. He has peaked. Dooley was never going to do it.

Here is my coaching list, as to who is out there and a possibility.

1. Chris Petersen- This is the guy you want. You offer him 6 million a year if that is what it takes. Think of Urban Meyer coming to Florida from Utah. When Petersen eventually takes a major job, the same thing will happen.
2. Gary Patterson- Outside of Stoops, probably the only coach from the Big 12 ready to be successful in the SEC.
3. Dave Doeren- off the table. NC State got a steal.
4. Larry Fedora- tough because he has only been at NC for a year but seems to be the real deal.
5. Charlie Strong- defensive mind, good recruiter.
6. Jim Mora- I think he will be a winner, but I dont know if he is a champion.
7. Jimbo Fisher- not sure where his ceiling will be. If others are unavailable he is a take.

Just say no to- Mike Gundy, Al Golden. Too much risk imo. With Gundy, you will pay a lot. Can he put together a defensive staff that won't make Sal Sunseri look like Chuck Noll?
 
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Do not give up on Gruden. All of my inside sources from people that talk to Gruden are telling me to just wait patiently. Yes, the agent has not talked to Dave Hart. And yes, Gruden has not talked to Dave Hart. However, it is my understanding that Gruden has had 2 meetings with 5 big boosters from Tennessee. I am telling you now, this thing is not dead yet.
 
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em37 said:
Do not give up on Gruden. All of my inside sources from people that talk to Gruden are telling me to just wait patiently. Yes, the agent has not talked to Dave Hart. And yes, Gruden has not talked to Dave Hart. However, it is my understanding that Gruden has had 2 meetings with 5 big boosters from Tennessee. I am telling you now, this thing is not dead yet.
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We shall see.
 
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KittenMittens said:
So he's going after Gundy, and he's not intense? I would say his primary concern is who can be successful, not who he can control.
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Ah, the control angle is overblown. Hart himself is controlled, ultimately by cheek and certainly by the big boosters, just like at all universities. Hart certainly doesn't write and sign his own paycheck and he knows that.
 
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Big Show said:
If we could nail down a contract with Bobby Petrino that stated he owed us if he left or stipulate that if he makes Tennessee look bad through his character he is fined a large amount of money. I'm not sure what, if any, can be done. But I think that he is an awsome coach, but just doesn't have the character that most of the supporters/fans want in a hc. He did bring Arkansas back around.:thumbsup:
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won't happen for reasons you stated.
 
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em37 said:
Do not give up on Gruden. All of my inside sources from people that talk to Gruden are telling me to just wait patiently. Yes, the agent has not talked to Dave Hart. And yes, Gruden has not talked to Dave Hart. However, it is my understanding that Gruden has had 2 meetings with 5 big boosters from Tennessee. I am telling you now, this thing is not dead yet.
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yes it is..

Also ,your mom has dinner ready upstairs
 
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em37 said:
Do not give up on Gruden. All of my inside sources from people that talk to Gruden are telling me to just wait patiently. Yes, the agent has not talked to Dave Hart. And yes, Gruden has not talked to Dave Hart. However, it is my understanding that Gruden has had 2 meetings with 5 big boosters from Tennessee. I am telling you now, this thing is not dead yet.
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Forgive me for being cynical, but so far, everyone's "inside sources" seems to be ficticious. However, if this works out the way you say, I will enjoy my serving of crow. For now, you can have my seat at the table.
 
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em37 said:
Do not give up on Gruden. All of my inside sources from people that talk to Gruden are telling me to just wait patiently. Yes, the agent has not talked to Dave Hart. And yes, Gruden has not talked to Dave Hart. However, it is my understanding that Gruden has had 2 meetings with 5 big boosters from Tennessee. I am telling you now, this thing is not dead yet.
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I am not saying your sources are good or bad, but I am being patient and think you may be on the right track. No sources told me anything for this opinion, just a hunch. I am not a all gruden or nothing as there are some good coaches out there, but Gruden brings instant success. By this I mean a better next year and awesome recruits for 2014 and beyond.

Again, my opinion is just that. We will see. I am hoping to post something later that shows how I am coming to my own conclusions, using what we all know as fact.
 
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orangeblood said:
Criteria for a Coaching Candidate

Success as a head coach- if he hasn't dominated in a smaller program, he won't dominate at Tennessee. Good coaches win, wherever they are.

They can be highly popular with the kids, hot sauce and all, but if they are not winners, it doesn't matter. Auburn had enough hot sauce to choke a Mexican, got all kinds of top recruits, and did not win one SEC game this year. A boring, good coach, can hire assistants who are good recruiters, but a great recruiter who does not know how to coach to produce wins, is lost no matter how many great players he has. Mark Richt will NEVER win it all. He has peaked. Dooley was never going to do it.

Here is my coaching list, as to who is out there and a possibility.

1. Chris Petersen- This is the guy you want. You offer him 6 million a year if that is what it takes. Think of Urban Meyer coming to Florida from Utah. When Petersen eventually takes a major job, the same thing will happen.
2. Gary Patterson- Outside of Stoops, probably the only coach from the Big 12 ready to be successful in the SEC.
3. Dave Doeren- off the table. NC State got a steal.
4. Larry Fedora- tough because he has only been at NC for a year but seems to be the real deal.
5. Charlie Strong- defensive mind, good recruiter.
6. Jim Mora- I think he will be a winner, but I dont know if he is a champion.
7. Jimbo Fisher- not sure where his ceiling will be. If others are unavailable he is a take.

Just say no to- Mike Gundy, Al Golden. Too much risk imo. With Gundy, you will pay a lot. Can he put together a defensive staff that won't make Sal Sunseri look like Chuck Noll?
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Finally, someone else ranks Petersen #1. :clapping: :good!: :salute: :yahoo: :rock2:
 
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ballou1024 said:
One name not being mentioned or considered is ex-Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris. Has college coaching experience was a defensive backs coach at Cornell and defensive coordinator at Kansas State. Would be a home run hire IMO!
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Well he HAS been mentioned....sort of. Someone said Gruden would bring him in as DC.

However, since Raheem Morris has no HC experience, I put him on the B list. However, at the top of it.
 
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Clintg said:
I do think Strong would be a good hire. Why not look at Fulmer? Tennessee needs him and he would do all he could for Tennessee. I do not think that is going to happen but he is a much better choice than going with some of the names rumored to be on the list.
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Because during Fulmer's last few seasons, his players were posing for way too many mug shots, and he was doing too little about it. And as far as Fulmer being better than the rumored names, sorry pal, I just don't see that.
 
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orangeblood said:
Criteria for a Coaching Candidate

Success as a head coach- if he hasn't dominated in a smaller program, he won't dominate at Tennessee. Good coaches win, wherever they are.

They can be highly popular with the kids, hot sauce and all, but if they are not winners, it doesn't matter. Auburn had enough hot sauce to choke a Mexican, got all kinds of top recruits, and did not win one SEC game this year. A boring, good coach, can hire assistants who are good recruiters, but a great recruiter who does not know how to coach to produce wins, is lost no matter how many great players he has. Mark Richt will NEVER win it all. He has peaked. Dooley was never going to do it.

Here is my coaching list, as to who is out there and a possibility.

1. Chris Petersen- This is the guy you want. You offer him 6 million a year if that is what it takes. Think of Urban Meyer coming to Florida from Utah. When Petersen eventually takes a major job, the same thing will happen.
2. Gary Patterson- Outside of Stoops, probably the only coach from the Big 12 ready to be successful in the SEC.
3. Dave Doeren- off the table. NC State got a steal.
4. Larry Fedora- tough because he has only been at NC for a year but seems to be the real deal.
5. Charlie Strong- defensive mind, good recruiter.
6. Jim Mora- I think he will be a winner, but I dont know if he is a champion.
7. Jimbo Fisher- not sure where his ceiling will be. If others are unavailable he is a take.

Just say no to- Mike Gundy, Al Golden. Too much risk imo. With Gundy, you will pay a lot. Can he put together a defensive staff that won't make Sal Sunseri look like Chuck Noll?
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Peterson, Boise is about to get left out of the next Conf. Re-alignmnet.
 
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douglas67 said:
Also, Urban went 12-0 this year. With virtually no Freshman involvement. Urban went to the Big 10 for a reason, HE WILL DOMINATE!!
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Yes, the Urban Crier. Whatever happened to Crier's supposed sickness that affected him in Florida. Was that sickness really fear of losing, aka image/ego. Suddenly a miraculous recovery when he was able to bailout from UF, after the best players were gone. But, not to fear, he landed in another prime gig where he can milk it, away from the tougher SEC. Some would call the Crier a charlatan.
 
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Petersen is a proven winner. He would give us what we expect as big orange fans. but who knows , i just think the grudenites will continue to poison the fan base if gruden isnt hired
 
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Petersen has certainly shown that he can get a team ready for a big game. I would never bet against him or Boise in a big time bowl game. However, he has not shown that he can do that week in and week out like it would be in the SEC. Who were his big wins against any way? Has he beaten any SEC teams in these big games? The only one that comes to mind is Choklahoma.
 
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Bluetick Believer said:
Petersen has certainly shown that he can get a team ready for a big game. I would never bet against him or Boise in a big time bowl game. However, he has not shown that he can do that week in and week out like it would be in the SEC. Who were his big wins against any way? Has he beaten any SEC teams in these big games? The only one that comes to mind is Choklahoma.
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I think they beat Georgia.....I can also remember a win over Va. Tech i believe. Your right though, it's not hard to motivate a team 2-3 times a year. SEC you have to motivate every week.
 
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Boise st. is not an SEC calibar school and never will be . but they have a coach who gets more out of its program than could ever be realistically expected.HE has earned a shot at the big time and if not at UT he will more than likley get it somewhere else
 
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Well Pete's kid is here and has problems so that's a big reason why Pete is staying instate. Also he may not make as much money here but with cost of living it is equivalent to making as much as the bigger name coaches in big cities. Plus Boise's fanbase is pretty loyal.
 
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IdahoVol said:
Well Pete's kid is here and has problems so that's a big reason why Pete is staying instate. Also he may not make as much money here but with cost of living it is equivalent to making as much as the bigger name coaches in big cities. Plus Boise's fanbase is pretty loyal.
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as far as i know he hasnt any offers from UT. but i like what you said about fan loyalty. when lame kiffen was hired here we had fan loyalty as always but more important we had fan unity. dooley never had unity from the fans. i just hope we can unite as fans for our next coach. im tired of after every penalty or busted play hearing that we shouldve hired john gruden
 
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