New GOP Public Enemy No. 1: Taylor Swift

[85SugarVol]

I could care less about any candidates poll numbers. YMMV. I was around for Kennedy-Nixon and me pappy told me all about Truman-Dewey. Let me further explin why.

Pencil and paper?

Most preelection polls in 2020 overstated Joe Biden’s lead over Donald Trump and in some states incorrectly indicated that Biden would likely win or that the race would be close when it was not. These problems led some commentators to argue that “polling is irrevocably broken,” that pollsters should be ignored, or that “the polling industry is a wreck, and should be blown up.”

Election polling, however, is just one application of public opinion polling, though obviously a prominent one. Pollsters often point to successes in forecasting elections as a reason to trust polling as a whole. But what is the relevance of election polling’s problems in 2020 for the rest of what public opinion polling attempts to do? Given the errors in 2016 and 2020, how much should we trust polls that attempt to measure opinions on issue

What 2020’s Election Poll Errors Tell Us About the Accuracy of Issue Polling

Given the errors in 2016 and 2020 election polling, how much should we trust polls that attempt to measure opinions on issues?

www.pewresearch.org

Election polling and attempts to forecast outcomes is one thing.

Generic approval polls.

Whether they are overstated or understated - directionally, they have continued to move downwards.

 

[Orangeburst]

Election polling and attempts to forecast outcomes is one thing.

Generic approval polls.

Whether they are overstated or understated - directionally, they have continued to move downwards.

yea..poll on topics and it is abysmal. He cant even poll positive on the economy, which is his “achievement”.

 

[EasternVol]

Major. Stunning. News.

It's the headline worldwide, London, Paris, Moscow, Beijing. The whole world's atwitter!

 

[volbound1700]

So I am lost, did Taylor Swift same something political recently that bothered people? What is the story here?

 

[NashVol11]

So I am lost, did Taylor Swift same something political recently that bothered people? What is the story here?

She gets shown on TV for 30 seconds during a 3 hour Chiefs game, and the Boycott NFL crowd that isn't supposed to be watching anyway is mad about it

 

[volbound1700]

She gets shown on TV for 30 seconds during a 3 hour Chiefs game, and the Boycott NFL crowd that isn't supposed to be watching anyway is mad about it

I am conservative but yeah that sounds a little dumb. I could, maybe, understand if she gave a long political speech attacking Trump or other conservative candidates but just making an appearance or even given an endorsement doesn't deserve the hate against her.

Yeah, the people the OP posted are stupid. I imagine Ben Shapiro is one of them going after Swift. Sometimes, they do it more for hits/controversy than the cause. I think they like losing because it gives them more views when people are angry/frustrated.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I am conservative but yeah that sounds a little dumb. I could, maybe, understand if she gave a long political speech attacking Trump or other conservative candidates but just making an appearance or even given an endorsement doesn't deserve the hate against her.

Yeah, the people the OP posted are stupid. I imagine Ben Shapiro is one of them going after Swift. Sometimes, they do it more for hits/controversy than the cause. I think they like losing because it gives them more views when people are angry/frustrated.

It's like you just described network news or something.

 

[MurphyVol]

I don't particularly care for her music, but I heard she may be the youngest female self made billionaire in US history.

Pretty astonishing since she doesn't have a side gig (fashion, liquor, etc) like other billionaire celebrities

 

[n_huffhines]

I don't particularly care for her music, but I heard she may be the youngest female self made billionaire in US history.

Pretty astonishing since she doesn't have a side gig (fashion, liquor, etc) like other billionaire celebrities

It's really impressive. She did the thing everybody is trying to do, and did it bigger and better than basically any solo artist ever. She's still got to catch a few people, but that's coming. No substantive controversies, either. She's seemingly well-liked by everybody who gets familiar with her.

I listened to a pod that was talking about the business of her tour, and she has a hand in everything. She's very tapped into her fans. It's down to the last detail. She's aware of the bathroom situation at the venues she plays (often stadiums aren't equipped to handle mostly-female audiences). She prevents her vendors from gouging fans on merch, etc.

 

[volbound1700]

It's like you just described network news or something.

Eventually you start to come to grips with the fact that no matter which side wins, we are going to lose.

Only reason USA is doing well right now is because our enemies/rivals (China and Russia included) are all doing worse.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So I am lost, did Taylor Swift same something political recently that bothered people? What is the story here?

It’s always bad when a woman makes it big without being told what she should do by a man.

Other than that I don’t know either

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

It’s always bad when a woman makes it big without being told what she should do by a man.

Other than that I don’t know either

She's a woman, she's got the sway to move young suburban independent women voters, she's a self made billionaire (i.e., one that did not start with several hundred million 50 years ago), and she endorsed Biden in 2020....

 

[hog88]

She's a woman, she's got the sway to move young suburban independent women voters, she's a self made billionaire (i.e., one that did not start with several hundred million 50 years ago), and she endorsed Biden in 2020....

That’s a sad commentary on our young suburban women.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I can’t believe this is a thing.

 

[85SugarVol]

She's a woman, she's got the sway to move young suburban independent women voters, she's a self made billionaire (i.e., one that did not start with several hundred million 50 years ago), and she endorsed Biden in 2020....

Lol I just don’t get it. The angst over her.

Ain’t no Swifties pulling that lever for Don Don. And she would never endorse him anyways.

They are locked in for Biden, irrespective of her endorsement.

 

[Orangeslice13]

She's a woman, she's got the sway to move young suburban independent women voters, she's a self made billionaire (i.e., one that did not start with several hundred million 50 years ago), and she endorsed Biden in 2020....

So…….
I gave up on giving a sh!t what entertainment people think.
It’s either that or don’t watch movies….listen to music…..ect

 

[Orangeslice13]

I can’t believe this is a thing.

Me too.
I’m still not sure it really is a thing

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Me too.
I’m still not sure it really is a thing

If we could just get back to a bi-partisan Public Enemy No 1 like Jackson Mahomes or Brittany Mahomes I think everybody would be a lot happier.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Even with auto tune, Swift is a mediocre singer at best.

She is a really good songwriter. She has written or co-written almost all of her own songs. That’s impressive.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

She gets shown on TV for 30 seconds during a 3 hour Chiefs game, and the Boycott NFL crowd that isn't supposed to be watching anyway is mad about it

And then crybaby liberals get on social media and cry about it.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

That’s a sad commentary on our young suburban women.

Yet, we have many in this thread that will believe anything, no matter how nonsensical, that their echo chamber posts on social media...

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Lol I just don’t get it. The angst over her.

Ain’t no Swifties pulling that lever for Don Don. And she would never endorse him anyways.

They are locked in for Biden, irrespective of her endorsement.

Trump lost the 2020 election because he lost the suburban female vote. Going out and trashing Taylor Swift isn't going to win those votes back...

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

So…….
I gave up on giving a sh!t what entertainment people think.
It’s either that or don’t watch movies….listen to music…..ect

It's the popular, female self-made billionaire thing that DJT can't stand.....

 

[85SugarVol]

Trump lost the 2020 election because he lost the suburban female vote. Going out and trashing Taylor Swift isn't going to win those votes back...

Oh he should absolutely leave her alone. It’s dumbass move to poke her.

So we know what he’ll do.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Oh he should absolutely leave her alone. It’s dumbass move to poke her.

So we know what he’ll do.

I mean Travis has no issues poking her...