New SEC Divisions

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norrislakevol said:
Let it cycle through. If you are vulnerable because of co-morbidities then make sure to get vaccinated. It's not that hard.
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I agree with this. I don’t agree with your previous statement because testing athletes is important 1) to reduce exposure for those those that are vulnerable/unvaccinated 2) reduce spread to other athletes that impacts eligibility 3) creates a safe environment where people don’t have to worry about covid and can focus on their jobs.

I also think you’re wrong with regards to herd immunity. We’re not there and we’re not even close. Saying we need to “let it run its course” while things are returning to “normal” is irresponsible.

I’m not attacking you personally, its a shared sentiment amongst many. I disagree with that entire stance and population that believes it.
 
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UTvols#1 said:
You guys better wake up something bigger than football is coming..These teams are joining because the financial fallout that is about to happen ,they all realize they need each other ...Folks covid ain't over ..The hidden war is still raging...Call me crazy but the next two years are gonna get crazy and frankly tough ...GBO...
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norrislakevol said:
Let it cycle through. If you are vulnerable because of co-morbidities then make sure to get vaccinated. It's not that hard.
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I’m also having one of those “I’m going to be difficult/argumentative ” mornings…if you can’t tell.

Still friends?
 
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JT3 said:
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You know, honestly, if it were to happen, I wouldn't mind so much having FSU and Clemson in the conference, but I'm not a fan of tOSU or Michigan. If we are going to expand to a 20 team super conference, at least go for Virginia and Virginia Tech.
 
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volsknx said:
I remember Miami being asked twice to cone to the SEC. Both times they said nope.

At the time it was said they didn’t want to play big boy football and trifle through an SEC schedule. First was in mid 80’s and second time was before USCe and Arky.
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After getting manhandled in the '86 Sugar Bowl, and then by Bama in '92, I'm sure they wanted no part of the SEC...
 
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knox-townVOL said:
How stupid would Ohio State be to make that move lol. They currently get to sleepwalk through a G5 conference that parades around as a P5 conference all the way to the playoffs every year.

I mean for goodness’ sake, we’ve been down for over a decade and are still 4-0 against the Big 10 in that span.
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The money would be unimaginable. Big 10 really only is a huge money conference bc of Ohio state and Michigan. I could definitely see this being discussed.
 
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I have no clue EXACTLY what college sports and it’s conferences will look like in 10 years….but it’s overtly clear it will be MASSIVELY different than what it is now. I would think one would have to be silly to think it’ll stay even close to what it is now.
 
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So stupid. Would be the end of CFB as we know it. If you're not an SEC "cool kid" and invited to the party, you're dead. And one day...who knows...we might not be a cool kid any longer. Even if not, put yourself in the shoes of those other teams. Or imagine it was the B1G taking over football and bama, lsu, uga, uf was getting pilfered and went to the B1G.

It's total BS for so many programs and the sport will be worse off in the long run.
 
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UTvols#1 said:
You guys better wake up something bigger than football is coming..These teams are joining because the financial fallout that is about to happen ,they all realize they need each other ...Folks covid ain't over ..The hidden war is still raging...Call me crazy but the next two years are gonna get crazy and frankly tough ...GBO...
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Who told you this? Name your source?
 
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Volunteer08 said:
I agree with this. I don’t agree with your previous statement because testing athletes is important 1) to reduce exposure for those those that are vulnerable/unvaccinated 2) reduce spread to other athletes that impacts eligibility 3) creates a safe environment where people don’t have to worry about covid and can focus on their jobs.

I also think you’re wrong with regards to herd immunity. We’re not there and we’re not even close. Saying we need to “let it run its course” while things are returning to “normal” is irresponsible.

I’m not attacking you personally, its a shared sentiment amongst many. I disagree with that entire stance and population that believes it.
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I understand that you are not attacking me personally, but time for living in fear is over. It got blown waaaay out of proportion. Fools even shut down the economy. Dumbest thing ever.

If you are vulnerable then you should have been vaccinated by now if you want to be. The shot has been out there long enough, no excuses.

No need to worry about athletes catching COVID. Most people under 30 have only minor symptoms if any at all. If you feel bad, then don't play until you feel better.

I am definitely not wrong about herd immunity. If you were exposed naturally then you have immunities. If you received the vaccine then you have immunities. According to the Mayo Clinic, about 50 percent of all U.S. citizens are fully vaccinated, add to that the people who have had natural exposure and you are near herd immunity. The important thing is that somewhere around 89 percent of people over 65 have been vaccinated. Time to stop the fear. Time to go back to normal everywhere.
 
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norrislakevol said:
I understand that you are not attacking me personally, but time for living in fear is over. It got blown waaaay out of proportion. Fools even shut down the economy. Dumbest thing ever.

If you are vulnerable then you should have been vaccinated by now if you want to be. The shot has been out there long enough, no excuses.

No need to worry about athletes catching COVID. Most people under 30 have only minor symptoms if any at all. If you feel bad, then don't play until you feel better.

I am definitely not wrong about herd immunity. If you were exposed naturally then you have immunities. If you received the vaccine then you have immunities. According to the Mayo Clinic, about 50 percent of all U.S. citizens are fully vaccinated, add to that the people who have had natural exposure and you are near herd immunity. The important thing is that somewhere around 89 percent of people over 65 have been vaccinated. Time to stop the fear. Time to go back to normal everywhere.
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It’s time to mandate vaccines for this just like we do for so many other shots. If people are too scared of a shot then they can be scared while they homeschool their kids and don’t attend college. That would get us to actual herd immunity and back to normal.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
It’s time to mandate vaccines for this just like we do for so many other shots. If people are too scared of a shot then they can be scared while they homeschool their kids and don’t attend college. That would get us to actual herd immunity and back to normal.
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We're almost at herd immunity already. The age group of 65 and older is at herd immunity right now at an 89 percent fully vaccinated rate. No one under 30 really needs the shot at all. That age groups chance of dying or being hospitalized is so small it's not even worth mentioning. If you are older or have co-morbidities then take it. Once again, it's not that hard.
 
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Ohio State fans HATE the SEC so much that they rationalize this as being impossible because of Academics. Which has literally nothing to do with these moves. And academics will matter even less when players are getting paid. Of course they also hated Urban Meyer before they worshipped the ground he walked on
 
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Mose Phillip's Watch said:
SEC is in talks with Ohio State, MI, Fla. State, Clemson for a 20 team super conference.

It's getting ready to get crazy
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I have an idea:

-Separate all the D1 football schools into two major Conferences: 1 has a playoff and one goes to bowls.

-Then, separate all the schools into pool style play based on geography (relative).

-Then identify the best representative(s) from each pool and send them to the most important bowl games.

-Then have some sort of post-post-season wherein the two best remaining teams play for college football supremacy.

Ran out of blue font in my typewriter ribbon.
 
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Honestly, I could see the SEC going to about 32-45 teams.* The NCAA completely failing (at least in Division I), and three or four mega-conferences taking over their own governance.

The SEC will thrive. The B10 will survive, and probably the PAC, too. Those two might group up into one, if they can figure out how to get all the egos out of the way.

The B12 and ACC are likely dead, if this plays out to that extent. Over half the ACC will come to the Mega-SEC (whatever it comes to be called), and the B10 will take what's left. The SEC and PAC will split some of what's in the B12, but a few of those schools might have to drop to Division II or eke out a miserable existence as independents.

I honestly can't see how independents survive, though, if this does play out. Being in some organizing body will be necessary, just to get enough games to make up a season. Cross-conference play will cease to exist. At least for a while.

Group of 5 conferences will see a similar merger. Every one of them will be poached by the Power conferences, but what's left can group up and make a decent new litttle-brother-mega.

The fun thing will be seeing what happens in the years AFTER that realignment. Will, one day, the winner of the Mega-SEC and the winner of the Mega-B10-PAC meet in a new "championship bowl"?

Whatever happens, we are certainly suffering the Chinese curse of living in interesting times.



* Current SEC 14 plus 10 or 11 from the ACC (Clemson, UNC, NC State, Duke, Wake, Miami, FSU, Va Tech, Ga Tech, Louisville, and maybe Virginia though they could go to the B10 instead), 4 to 6 from the B12 (Oklahoma, Okla State, Texas, Texas Tech, and maybe TCU and/or Baylor), one from the B10 (Nebraska), and anywhere from 5-15 from G5 conferences (UCF, USF, Memphis, Houston, Western Kentucky, App State, MTSU, Charlotte, UAB, La Tech, Southern Miss, Coastal Carolina, Ga State, UL Monroe, Arky State, etc.)
 
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p.s. Perhaps what the SEC is _reportedly_ trying to do by talking with Ohio State and Clemson is this: lure in the biggest team from the B10 and ACC, which would open the door to them bringing along the more competitive members of their respective former homes. Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and others from B10, along with most of the ACC. This would shortcut the problem my previous post anticipated: a college football division I landscape divided into Mega-SEC and Mega-B10+PAC. If we could bring in the best of the B10, the PAC would have nowhere to turn. And probably wouldn't survive. Certainly not thrive.

That would ensure that the Mega-SEC champion is widely recognized as the national champ, every single year.

So maybe that's what Sankey's trying to do, IF the latest rumors are true.
 
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