Newspaper Interview w/ Tisha DeShields

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Smallvol#1 said:
Michelle Marciniak, her nickname was Spinderella for a spinning move she made on her shot.
I think only about three jucos...bobbit and bird on the two NC teams, can't remember the others. Know Pat had one really good transfer early..before rules were so tight. Can't remember her name, before my time.
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Trish Roberts is probably the early transfer you are thinking of.
 
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TennMann,

you need to get a grip. Sandvol was giving you good advice. Stow that high & mighty tude... or stick it up yer arse. Your choice, We survived here just fine before you & will after.
 
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Voluble2 said:
Trish Roberts is probably the early transfer you are thinking of.
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That's it. Thanks! Tried to find the info last night and couldn't.

So that makes at lease 5 JUCOs. Wonder if anyone can figure out the transfer ins? The Lady Vol history has transfers out...like Faith, Amber, M Munoz, but I could not find any designation for those who came in as transfers. Pat's last book may have that info.
 
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What "tude" , gule? I'm only stating facts. Facts learned from PLAYING the college game, not watching it my whole life. As for "stick it up yer arse".... Well, I think that bit of eloquence says all that needs to be known about you, but I would suggest laying off such statements and sticking to basketball conversation.
And about getting "a grip", I'd say I have a much more firm grip on this game than most having played, coached, and taught as a private individual instructor.
Having been off this or any other site like it for several years, I'd forgotten how those who never played the game think (or don't think) and the ridiculous things they say. The view from the court is very different from the couch where you've spent your life, gule.
But I tell you what...if you think it's just "tude", I'll lay $1000 on a game of 1-on-1 anywhere, anytime with you or sandvol....and I haven't played in 15-20 years. Then maybe you can try to stick it up my "arse" yourself.
Until you're ready to do that, why don't we just have some enlightening conversation about basketball, NOT speak rudely about the hard-working young women who give their all for their teams, and leave your "tude" elsewhere?
 
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In addition to Trish Roberts and Michelle Marciniak, the program enjoyed prosperity with transfers Cindy Brogdon (Mercer), Cindy Noble (Ohio St.), and Jill Rankin (Wayland Baptist)--3 more Olympians and All-Americans. They helped bring many victories.
 
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TennMann said:
What "tude" , gule? I'm only stating facts. Facts learned from PLAYING the college game, not watching it my whole life. As for "stick it up yer arse".... Well, I think that bit of eloquence says all that needs to be known about you, but I would suggest laying off such statements and sticking to basketball conversation.
And about getting "a grip", I'd say I have a much more firm grip on this game than most having played, coached, and taught as a private individual instructor.
Having been off this or any other site like it for several years, I'd forgotten how those who never played the game think (or don't think) and the ridiculous things they say. The view from the court is very different from the couch where you've spent your life, gule.
But I tell you what...if you think it's just "tude", I'll lay $1000 on a game of 1-on-1 anywhere, anytime with you or sandvol....and I haven't played in 15-20 years. Then maybe you can try to stick it up my "arse" yourself.
Until you're ready to do that, why don't we just have some enlightening conversation about basketball, NOT speak rudely about the hard-working young women who give their all for their teams, and leave your "tude" elsewhere?
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We periodically get the odd supposed former athlete that when they arrive and post everyone is supposed to shut up and defer to their superior understanding of the game. Most of us who post on here played sports while we were young. And, many of us have a better understanding of the game or sport than the college athletes who played them although we weren't physically gifted enough to play at major college level. I mean you're pretty stupid actually if your logic tells you that if you can beat me in 1 on 1 you have a better understanding of a game than I do. I have played sports and been a sports fan all my life and understand most sports I follow pretty well. Really TennMann, sports ain't rocket science or most athletes wouldn't be doing it. How about a 1 on 1 on a physics or calculus test? That might give a better determination of who might understand a sport better.
 
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Also, TM, why do you think DeShields is suffering from some psychological disorder? She just said she was unhappy. Whatever that means. I question her loyalty to her team mates who she recruited to UNC. That's all.
 
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Sanvol I definitely agree with you about the negative effects on DeShields's bb friends who agreed to come to UNC with her. 17 year olds don't always make the best decisions for their careers.
I just read about a Kansas State QB who is transferring for the third time - can't seem to be fully appreciated I guess. When Manning became the freshman starter the other great QB left and became a starter in Texas. The primary difference I believe is she left as a star, not an almost, or poor grades, or...

We would only hope she has a good personal talk with those friends and comrades on the court "she left behind."
 
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Boy, LOL!!! Y'all are funny on here.... Unless anybody on this board is in her personal circle and know her and have talked to her, you don't know. When she decides to say why she is unhappy, she will. If she decides not to say at all and move on like I think or assume she has done, then more power to her. Speculating and assuming is something I learned a long time ago not to do. Unless you hear it from the horse's mouth, you don't know.

Now if she ends up here at good ol Rocky Top, I wonder what those who mentioned "head case" and have had said some things, will have to say then? Especially after another season of what she did at UNC in an Lady Vols uni... I think she should have come to Rocky Top in the first place but it's not for me to judge her on why she left UNC.

Y'all are funny..... :p
 
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LurkerExposed said:
On the other side of the coin, UT took in a highly talented transfer named Julie-Ann Wombersen, and now no one can even say they remember her. So there are those stories....
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You're not joking. She's not even on the official UT Lady Vols history list at Utsports.com
 
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kzee2501 said:
Boy, LOL!!!

Now if she ends up here at good ol Rocky Top, I wonder what those who mentioned "head case" and have had said some things, will have to say then? Especially after another season of what she did at UNC in an Lady Vols uni... I think she should have come to Rocky Top in the first place but it's not for me to judge her on why she left UNC.

Y'all are funny..... :p
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LMAO - well since I'm the one that brought up the term 'head case' I feel I have the right to respond in kind.

She is a freakin head case! Doesn't matter if she is homesick, bipolar, Schizophrenic, or Psychotic - its all in her head! She hasn't blown a knee. She has a great situation in NC and she loves her teammates & coaches.

What if she comes to Rocky Top? She will still be a head case. If its as simple as homesickness what is so different here than NC? If its anything else why will it change? Is the climate that much better?

Oh, and TennMan - lighten up Jack. You take your self waaay too seriously. Nobody else does.
 
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meekfan said:
LMAO - well since I'm the one that brought up the term 'head case' I feel I have the right to respond in kind.

She is a freakin head case! Doesn't matter if she is homesick, bipolar, Schizophrenic, or Psychotic - its all in her head! She hasn't blown a knee. She has a great situation in NC and she loves her teammates & coaches.

What if she comes to Rocky Top? She will still be a head case. If its as simple as homesickness what is so different here than NC? If its anything else why will it change? Is the climate that much better?

Oh, and TennMan - lighten up Jack. You take your self waaay too seriously. Nobody else does.
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Meekfan's got a good point here. Take for example the Tucker situation with us last year. I truly felt for the girl and if you can research some of my posts regarding her I empathized with her. Even though she had committed to us she hadn't arrived, she didn't try to recruit other players and then run out on them, and you could tell she was having some difficulties she needed to overcome. I thought we should stay patient and if she decided to stay home that would be best-i.e. no harm no foul. But with DeShields I don't know how well any team mate could ever trust her. Would she be a cancer to the team? She might turn out fine and grow up but I would be cautious regarding her.
 
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In 1991 Tennessee coveted and earnestly recruited Michelle Marciniak but lost. Notre Dame won the recruiting battle for her services. Nevertheless, Tennessee was on its way to the nation's best recruiting haul, signing co-Parade Magazine player of the year Vonda Ward (who shared the honor with Marciniak), 1st-teamers Dana Johnson and Tiffany Woosley, and 3rd team Parade AA Rochone Dilligard.

Although Marciniak was an instant success at ND, it apparently wasn't the right fit. She sought a transfer and (after sitting out a year) graced our program with some very memorable highlights and helped bring a national championship, playing with the aforementioned stellar athletes as well as the likes of Nikki McCray, Nikki Caldwell, Abby Conklin, Latina Davis, and Pashen Thompson.

If DeShields were to pick Tennessee, could it "backfire"? Sure. But on the other hand, there is documented evidence that it could prove worthy to the player and the team. Seems there is some similarity to Marciniak's situation. I'm sure the coaches are weighing the possibilities and consequences while keeping the best interest of the team in mind.
 
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Putbacks said:
In 1991 Tennessee coveted and earnestly recruited Michelle Marciniak but lost. Notre Dame won the recruiting battle for her services. Nevertheless, Tennessee was on its way to the nation's best recruiting haul, signing co-Parade Magazine player of the year Vonda Ward (who shared the honor with Marciniak), 1st-teamers Dana Johnson and Tiffany Woosley, and 3rd team Parade AA Rochone Dilligard.

Although Marciniak was an instant success at ND, it apparently wasn't the right fit. She sought a transfer and (after sitting out a year) graced our program with some very memorable highlights and helped bring a national championship, playing with the aforementioned stellar athletes as well as the likes of Nikki McCray, Nikki Caldwell, Abby Conklin, Latina Davis, and Pashen Thompson.

If DeShields were to pick Tennessee, could it "backfire"? Sure. But on the other hand, there is documented evidence that it could prove worthy to the player and the team. Seems there is some similarity to Marciniak's situation. I'm sure the coaches are weighing the possibilities and consequences while keeping the best interest of the team in mind.
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That is a valid comparison except did Marciniak recruit a bunch of players to go with her to Notre Dame?
 
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Sandvol said:
That is a valid comparison except did Marciniak recruit a bunch of players to go with her to Notre Dame?
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Do we even know that Diamond did that? I have seen it stated on a lot of message boards as common knowledge but it doesn't really seem to fit with the other information that she was unhappy from pretty much the get go.

Is it possible the other girls talked her into it or she got swept up in the potential of playing with all of these other girls if they settled on a school that may not have been her first choice?

Or could it be that she is not playing for the coach she thought she would play for and does not like the current coach taking Hatchell's place?

And who is correct? Hatchell saying she is surprised that Diamond is leaving and does not know why she is unhappy or the posters who say Diamond was convinced by the coaches to stick out the first year, perhaps even as loyalty to the other girls who came with her, and that having done so she is still not happy there?

It could be as you say and she is a headcase, but it would be foolish to think we have enough information to know for certain one way or the other.

We all like to read between the lines and speculate. We should just keep in mind that that is all it is... speculation.

And I guess the last thing is that she is still pretty young. Even if everything you say is true it doesn't mean she still can't mature. It happens to most of us if we wait long enough. I'm putting up a good fight though.:gun:
 
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gule said:
my $ says she goes pro.
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You would probably be losing your money unless she goes to overseas to play. See the WNBA eligibility requirements below.

•Is at least 22 years old during the calendar year of the applicable season
•Has completed her intercollegiate basketball eligibility
•Has graduated from a four-year college or university
•Or has played at least two seasons for another professional basketball league
 
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Sandvol said:
That is a valid comparison except did Marciniak recruit a bunch of players to go with her to Notre Dame?
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I don't know the extent of Marciniak's recruitment of teammates to ND. There certainly wasn't the dramatic development that happened to North Carolina ever before in the history of the women's game that I recall. The unknown that Voluble has already stated is DeShield's extent of influence on those other players. IMO if they made their decision solely on hers, then there are a lot of "headcases" in Chapel Hill right now. Perhaps separation will provide some personal resolution for all involved. Who knows? I have a personal opinion that perhaps the best of the bunch that signed with the Tar Heels last year (Deshields included) is still in Chapel Hill. Her name is Allisha Gray. I regretted when we didn't get her (or Tyler Scaife or the KY player from Chicago whose name escapes me right now).

Still, if I were the coach assessing whether I accept or reject her transfer in, I don't put a lot of relevance in her lack of loyalty to her signing class teammates. We know that has disintegrated. She's leaving. However, her loyalty to her new team has to be evaluated seriously. I think you interview and assess whether or not she can help your team and trust the feedback of your current team members' comments and cues of genuine acceptance or rejection. That verdict can inspire a championship season with or without her.
 
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Putbacks said:
I don't know the extent of Marciniak's recruitment of teammates to ND. There certainly wasn't the dramatic development that happened to North Carolina ever before in the history of the women's game that I recall. The unknown that Voluble has already stated is DeShield's extent of influence on those other players. IMO if they made their decision solely on hers, then there are a lot of "headcases" in Chapel Hill right now. Perhaps separation will provide some personal resolution for all involved. Who knows? I have a personal opinion that perhaps the best of the bunch that signed with the Tar Heels last year (Deshields included) is still in Chapel Hill. Her name is Allisha Gray. I regretted when we didn't get her (or Tyler Scaife or the KY player from Chicago whose name escapes me right now).

Still, if I were the coach assessing whether I accept or reject her transfer in, I don't put a lot of relevance in her lack of loyalty to her signing class teammates. We know that has disintegrated. She's leaving. However, her loyalty to her new team has to be evaluated seriously. I think you interview and assess whether or not she can help your team and trust the feedback of your current team members' comments and cues of genuine acceptance or rejection. That verdict can inspire a championship season with or without her.
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I think it speaks to her character and whether her teammates can trust her. Hey, and I'm not the one who said she was a head case. To me a head case means some type of psychological disorder. I just think she is someone who is probably very self-centered. And, maybe not great team mate material. She has really not offered any kind of explanation to her coach or team mates other than she is unhappy. They deserve a better explanation than that. Also, be careful what you wish for.
 
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