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crusse10 said:
Does that mean 51%? Does that mean 95%?
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We've averaged 1-2 a year for the 7 years Ive coached.

So if those are each different players, our average team is 90 players. If we take he high number of two that's 1 out of 45 kids a year.

So slightly over 2% of kids
 
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crusse10 said:
I fail to see how any of that matters
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You're throwing out a random numbers like 3 concussions.

I played qb, te, and cb. In four years of Hs ball I only had 1 concussion.

I ask this question because I want to know where you're coming up with these assumptions of yours? You make it seem as if brain injuries are inevitable. That's not the case. Many players never suffer a concussion.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You're throwing out random numbers like 3 concussions.

I played qb, te, and cb. In four years of Hs ball I only had 1 concussion
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and in college you'd have gotten at least 1, with 2 not out of the question

how is 3 all that random?
 
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crusse10 said:
and in college you'd have gotten at least 1, with 2 not out of the question

how is 3 all that random?
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Why do you say that? There's plenty of UT players that have never had a concussion.

Did AJ miss a single game with a concussion?
 
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crusse10 said:
and in college you'd have gotten at least 1, with 2 not out of the question

how is 3 all that random?
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It's random because you just pulled it out of your ass based on your belief that everyone who looks too hard at a football gets a brain injury.
 
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The NFL reports that they have .67 concussions every game.

So that's 2 for every three games, or 5 2/3 of a concussion per team per year.

An NFL roster has 53 players on it.

So each year a player plays the game, they have a 10.69 percent chance of receiving a concussion.

That's not exactly impressive. And it 100% shows how inflated your belief that everyone has 3 concussions is.
 
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Vol8188 said:
The NFL reports that they have .67 concussions every game.

So that's 2 for every three games, or 5 2/3 of a concussion per team per year.

An NFL roster has 53 players on it.

So each year a player plays the game, they have a 10.69 percent chance of receiving a concussion.

That's not exactly impressive. And it 100% shows how inflated your belief that everyone has 3 concussions is.
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so in the NFL every single game has a higher probability of having a concussion than not having a concussion?
 
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Vol8188 said:
So your number of concussions you assumed everyone had was complete bull****?
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I think it's fair to say that the entire 53-man roster isn't likely to have a concussion, though. Take the Packers, for instance. Players that took roughly 90% of the snaps or more on the season (on offense) are Rodgers, Linsley, Bakhtiari, Sitton, Lang, Bulaga, Nelson, and Cobb. That's 8 of 11 positions. Players that took roughly 10% of the snaps or less on the season (on offense) are Flynn, Sherrod, L. Taylor, Tretter, Gerhart, Janis, Dorsey, Bostick, Perillo, R. Taylor, Harris, and Daniels. That's 12 players. Add in the two kicking specialists, that's 14. That 53-man roster is now 39 players playing very frequently.

For Defense, the numbers are slightly more fluid. Players who played roughly 70% or more are Matthews, Peppers, Hawk, Williams, Shields, Burnett, and Clinton-Dix, or 7 of 11. Defensive players who played roughly 30% or less of snaps are D. Jones, Pennel, Robinson, Lattimore, B. Jones, Elliott, House, Bush, and Richardson, or 9 players. Taking those 9 guys out of the the 39 players left puts us at 30.

Sure you've got some guys on special teams and sometimes that's where injuries occur, but that's been cut significantly. Overall you've got about 30 guys taking the overwhelming majority of snaps, so that's a more accurate number to use for these kind of stats per player.
 
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crusse10 said:
so in the NFL every single game has a higher probability of having a concussion than not having a concussion?
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And just so we're clear, you're wrong about this too. .67 was the amount in 2010.

.43 concussions per game in 2015.
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=12248483&src=desktop
 
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crusse10 said:
I think it's fair to say that the entire 53-man roster isn't likely to have a concussion, though. Take the Packers, for instance. Players that took roughly 90% of the snaps or more on the season (on offense) are Rodgers, Linsley, Bakhtiari, Sitton, Lang, Bulaga, Nelson, and Cobb. That's 8 of 11 positions. Players that took roughly 10% of the snaps or less on the season (on offense) are Flynn, Sherrod, L. Taylor, Tretter, Gerhart, Janis, Dorsey, Bostick, Perillo, R. Taylor, Harris, and Daniels. That's 12 players. Add in the two kicking specialists, that's 14. That 53-man roster is now 39 players playing very frequently.

For Defense, the numbers are slightly more fluid. Players who played roughly 70% or more are Matthews, Peppers, Hawk, Williams, Shields, Burnett, and Clinton-Dix, or 7 of 11. Defensive players who played roughly 30% or less of snaps are D. Jones, Pennel, Robinson, Lattimore, B. Jones, Elliott, House, Bush, and Richardson, or 9 players. Taking those 9 guys out of the the 39 players left puts us at 30.

Sure you've got some guys on special teams and sometimes that's where injuries occur, but that's been cut significantly. Overall you've got about 30 guys taking the overwhelming majority of snaps, so that's a more accurate number to use for these kind of stats per player.
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How about a team we both watch. How many UT football players had concussions this season?
 
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Vol8188 said:
How about a team we both watch. How many UT football players had concussions this season?
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Let's get this straight, you made a claim regarding a 53-man roster and I refuted it. Now you want to dismiss the topic?
 
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Using 2015 NFL concussion data of .43 concussions per game over a 20 game NFL season would mean each team has a probability of .215 that someone on their team has a concussion is a given game.

that would be an average of 4.3 concussions per team.

Meaning an NFL player only has an 8% chance of receiving a concussion over the entire season. That's not exactly impressive.
 
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crusse10 said:
Let's get this straight, you made a claim regarding a 53-man roster and I refuted it. Now you want to dismiss the topic?
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I'm saying I don't watch the packers. But you are assuming also that players can get injured in practice or on special teams. And special teams is were the majority of injuries actually happen.

And no, 30 is not a very accurate number to use.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I'm saying I don't watch the packers. But you are assuming also that players can get injured in practice or on special teams. And special teams is were the majority of injuries actually happen.

And no, 30 is not a very accurate number to use.
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You wanted to talk percentages, so use percentages of players who play most of the games. No reason to have Matt Flynn count in the overall number of players who could get a concussion.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Using 2015 NFL concussion data of .43 concussions per game over a 20 game NFL season would mean each team has a probability of .215 that someone on their team has a concussion is a given game.

that would be an average of 4.3 concussions per team.

Meaning an NFL player only has an 8% chance of receiving a concussion over the entire season. That's not exactly impressive.
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you need to weight it based on snaps

jim bob cooter was never at risk of a concussion holding a clipboard
 
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Vol8188 said:
Using 2015 NFL concussion data of .43 concussions per game over a 20 game NFL season would mean each team has a probability of .215 that someone on their team has a concussion is a given game.

that would be an average of 4.3 concussions per team.

Meaning an NFL player only has an 8% chance of receiving a concussion over the entire season. That's not exactly impressive.
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Hey man, if you wanna have a 1/10 chance of getting brain damage every year because of your job, go for it. I don't want that for my kids.
 
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crusse10 said:
Let's get this straight, you made a claim regarding a 53-man roster and I refuted it. Now you want to dismiss the topic?
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You realize that you're now redefining the argument from "all NFL players have a concussion each year" to "all starters have a concussion"
 
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crusse10 said:
Hey man, if you wanna have a 1/10 chance of getting brain damage every year because of your job, go for it. I don't want that for my kids.
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Why are you so convinced your kid will be an NFL starter if you allow them to play on the youth team?
 
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