NIL Collectives Join Forces

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knoxvol52 said:
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Has nothing to do with Golf this time was on Sports Source in a segment this past Sunday. Sorry I can't do all those fancy downloads to this site using a crummy tablet!!!!
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sorry, I thought you were joking. The LIV/PGA thing…I’ll give it a look, thanks for the heads up.
 
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How many of the current and existing NIL deals are actually resulting in merchandise sales with players' name/image/likeness
as opposed to players just getting money--which adds up to nothing more than bribery or, if you prefer, "revenue sharing" for a select
few on top of the major benefit they are already receiving--a free college education plus tutoring, coaching, free housing/food/medical care, counseling, etc. Have any of the many NIL deals that have been done been scrutinized? This notion that student-athletes getting /major/ benefits that the rest of the college student in America would kill for--a free college education--are poor, put-upon young people being exploited by colleges is utter nonsense.
 
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vol66 said:
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Best I can tell it stems from a story in the Athletic written by a guy that’s a frequent guest on the Sports Source show, it’s behind a pay wall but the link above summarizes the story.
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Thanks for your help sounded to me like some schools like Vandy and Missouri and so on would accept it. The big hitters not so much that was my understanding but I could be wrong wouldn't be the first or last time!!!
 
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txbo said:
Leeches working together to monopolize this new industry. The'll make more money than the professional sports agents ever did.
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Yeah, I ain’t sure how I feel about it to be honest, gotta think on it. Couple all this stuff with schools like Duke offering free tuition to every in state student whose parents make under a certain amount. it’s a lot.

Edit: clarification
 
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vol66 said:
Yeah, I ain’t sure how I feel about it to be honest, gotta think on it. Couple all this stuff with schools like Duke offering free tuition to every in state student…it’s a lot.
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I'm very much a hypocrite on the subject. I appreciate the capitalism but I think it will ruin college sports as we know it. I've also participated in NIL but only in baseball.
 
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txbo said:
I'm very much a hypocrite on the subject. I appreciate the capitalism but I think it will ruin college sports as we know it. I've also participated in NIL but only in baseball.
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As for the collectives getting together to help lay down some rules in the NCAA’s absence, I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing, but like you, I can see where the gap between the haves and have nots may widen. Again, not sure how I feel about all this yet.
 
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It's just really weird commentary from the NCAA also, I mean, it's like they're saying "we were here first, do what we say." But at the same time, they're not associated with any legal aspect of state laws (I don't think, at least), so what could they possibly want to get out of this other than saving themselves from dissolution?
 
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vol66 said:
As for the collectives getting together to help lay down some rules in the NCAA’s absence, I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing, but like you, I can see where the gap between the haves and have nots may widen. Again, not sure how I feel about all this yet.
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Their efforts are largely to create barriers to entry are self serving. They want to monopolize the collective industry.
 
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txbo said:
Their efforts are largely to create barriers to entry are self serving. They want to monopolize the collective industry.
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Not saying they're not, but OTOH they maybe looked to head off regulation from the NCAA or heaven forfend Washington. The NCAA has never regulated anything. They rig by playing favorites, and some schools they refuse to sanction no matter how bad the incident. The problem imo is that there exists no just referee one can turn to. For that reason, I am reduced to supporting whatever would best help our team. I think the new developments benefit Tennessee across the board. We can pay just like the teams cheating with impunity have always paid with an NCAA blind eye to them. More money for baseball. And look at the renovation money!
 
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I realize a lot of long time baseball fans are concerned about the changes, so I won't advocate for them anymore here. But I would ask people to consider the pros as well as the cons. I guess it's more clear cut as beneficial in football and basketball where the "cheating with impunity" teams are more obvious. But I do think (subject to correction from people here like you who know light-years more about baseball than I do) that NIL is helping baseball too.
 
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Orange. said:
I realize a lot of long time baseball fans are concerned about the changes, so I won't advocate for them anymore here. But I would ask people to consider the pros as well as the cons. I guess it's more clear cut as beneficial in football and basketball where the "cheating with impunity" teams are more obvious. But I do think (subject to correction from people here like you who know light-years more about baseball than I do) that NIL is helping baseball too.
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96 million reasons to at least consider it.
 
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Orange. said:
I realize a lot of long time baseball fans are concerned about the changes, so I won't advocate for them anymore here. But I would ask people to consider the pros as well as the cons. I guess it's more clear cut as beneficial in football and basketball where the "cheating with impunity" teams are more obvious. But I do think (subject to correction from people here like you who know light-years more about baseball than I do) that NIL is helping baseball too.
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Like I said earlier, I support NIL for baseball. I've even participated....but I've done it directly with the kids. Baseball has gotten the short straw on scholarships for decades.

I'm not even saying the collectives are bad. What I am saying is they were created to make money. This new association is set up to protect the interests of the collectives.

BTW.... I do the exact same thing in my industry. I belong to associations that exist solely to protect my interests.
 
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The feeling I get is that these collectives want to make sure if a kid decides to transfer , within the affiliated collectives , the previous collective still has ownership. Similar to a licensing deal. A kid could sign a TN deal , transfer to USC, but their NIL deal is still with the TN NIL.
 
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txbo said:
Like I said earlier, I support NIL for baseball. I've even participated....but I've done it directly with the kids. Baseball has gotten the short straw on scholarships for decades.

I'm not even saying the collectives are bad. What I am saying is they were created to make money. This new association is set up to protect the interests of the collectives.

BTW.... I do the exact same thing in my industry. I belong to associations that exist solely to protect my interests.
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I was wondering, reading your earlier post, if you were participating directly, doing something with players. That is great! Thanks on behalf of all fans!
 
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Dougie_D said:
The feeling I get is that these collectives want to make sure if a kid decides to transfer , within the affiliated collectives , the previous collective still has ownership. Similar to a licensing deal. A kid could sign a TN deal , transfer to USC, but their NIL deal is still with the TN NIL.
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No, the deals are structured such that the player has to be at the original school to comply. This is done through local appearances and other things I'm not sure of. The player nullifies the agreement by leaving. Bru McCoy or Holman (should we get him) wouldn't receive USC or Bama NIL after they transfer here. Spyre is not going to set up USC NIL deals with sponsors in Cali.
 
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