NIL Collectives Join Forces

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turbovol said:
How many of the current and existing NIL deals are actually resulting in merchandise sales with players' name/image/likeness
as opposed to players just getting money--which adds up to nothing more than bribery or, if you prefer, "revenue sharing" for a select
few on top of the major benefit they are already receiving--a free college education plus tutoring, coaching, free housing/food/medical care, counseling, etc. Have any of the many NIL deals that have been done been scrutinized? This notion that student-athletes getting /major/ benefits that the rest of the college student in America would kill for--a free college education--are poor, put-upon young people being exploited by colleges is utter nonsense.
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Or that the notion of these athletes are actually there for an education.
 
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Orange. said:
No, the deals are structured such that the player has to be at the original school to comply. This is done through local appearances and other things I'm not sure of. The player nullifies the agreement by leaving. Bru McCoy or Holman (should we get him) wouldn't receive USC or Bama NIL after they transfer here. Spyre is not going to set up USC NIL deals with sponsors in Cali.
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If Spyre had contacts in CA, they would. Spyre will do anything they are capable of to make a buck.
 
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NIL collectives > Association > new player protections > more lawyers > new dues paid by players to cover new Association benefits like 401Ks > new investment managers >

a "Welcome to the neighborhood" card from some guys with accents, who offer to come help the Association with some vexing problems they're about to have.

Here's the thing about money: In small amounts, it empowers consumers. In large amounts, it consumes.
 
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Orange. said:
No, the deals are structured such that the player has to be at the original school to comply. This is done through local appearances and other things I'm not sure of. The player nullifies the agreement by leaving. Bru McCoy or Holman (should we get him) wouldn't receive USC or Bama NIL after they transfer here. Spyre is not going to set up USC NIL deals with sponsors in Cali.
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I think it’s the other way around .. the parent company should still have the rights to those players. It protects the parent company from losing out those deals and another company making a brand new NIL deal.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I think it’s the other way around .. the parent company should still have the rights to those players. It protects the parent company from losing out those deals and another company making a brand new NIL deal.
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They can’t prohibit an athlete from transferring though, and Spyre isn’t going to pay an athlete at a different school. While Spyre does help athletes sign other deals, part of Spyres agreements include their event series where athletes attend and also get interviewed on podcasts for the benefit of UT fans.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I think it’s the other way around .. the parent company should still have the rights to those players. It protects the parent company from losing out those deals and another company making a brand new NIL deal.
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You got it… thus the collective agreement.
 
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I think the collective is designed to head off crooked NCAA rigging or "regulation" (as they call it) and to short-circuit the bribe-eaters in Washington from getting their paws on it. And who can deny the Birmingham office would be a horror as regulator.

But I cannot exclude the logical possibility that @txbo's interpretation is correct. Glad he supports NIL himself for our baseVols! Salute.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I think it’s the other way around .. the parent company should still have the rights to those players. It protects the parent company from losing out those deals and another company making a brand new NIL deal.
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No, NIL is supported by fans at each school. Your suggestion is what @txbo is worried about.
 
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Orange. said:
I think the collective is designed to head off crooked NCAA rigging or "regulation" (as they call it) and to short-circuit the bribe-eaters in Washington from getting their paws on it. And who can deny the Birmingham office would be a horror as regulator.

But I cannot exclude the logical possibility that @txbo's interpretation is correct. Glad he supports NIL himself for our baseVols! Salute.
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The collectives are already well out in front of the NCAA. At this point they are merely bystanders.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
What's this about the Saudi Arabia money for NIL for colleges just got bits a pieces of it!!!
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John Adams was trolling Tennessee's NIL. He made it up. He can't tolerate anything good happening for us.

(Of course, as I am trying to acknowledge, some people think it's a bad thing. I even see that @preacherman20 has liked one of @txbo's posts. Two people I very much respect here.)
 
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chuckiepoo said:
Hmm… haven’t read John Adams regularly since the late seventies. He can eat a sack of Richards.
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Some people are so miserable that they are out to convince everyone to slit their own wrist. And if they are not intentionally doing it, then the negativity oozes out so the other person will want to do it anyway. JA is one of those people.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
The collectives are already well out in front of the NCAA. At this point they are merely bystanders.
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If you consider the omnipresent fact of tampering coast to coast and then notice the only team I am aware of that the NCAA has ever punished for it, then, in my view, you know why the NCAA needs to keep its double-standard hands off of NIL. They always and only play favorites.

On the other hand, the stronghold of NCAA power is that they run the baseball and basketball tournaments. I don't see a problem with them keeping that role. But our baseball experts here would have better informed views on that. People do continually complain about seeding, but I'm not aware of anyone who could do that without similar complaints.
 
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Orange. said:
If you consider the omnipresent fact of tampering coast to coast and then notice the only team I am aware of that the NCAA has ever punished for it, then, in my view, you know why the NCAA needs to keep its double-standard hands off of NIL. They always and only play favorites.

On the other hand, the stronghold of NCAA power is that they run the baseball and basketball tournaments. I don't see a problem with them keeping that role. But our baseball experts here would have better informed views on that. People do continually complain about seeding, but I'm not aware of anyone who could do that without similar complaints.
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Walter Byers.
 
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