No More "Boy" Scouts

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Orange_Crush said:
Actually, you completely missed the point.

And I have no idea. Without knowing, should I have inferred "he" instead? Or "them"? Or "xi"? Which would make you more comfortable to the points I made, and you seem to have missed?
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He's like lawgator, he doesn't really care about what he posts, it's just a mental exercise.
 
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#228
Orange_Crush said:
Actually, you completely missed the point.

And I have no idea. Without knowing, should I have inferred "he" instead? Or "them"? Or "xi"? Which would make you more comfortable to the points I made, and you seem to have missed?
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What is the point exactly? That gender separation is such a foundational and important component of the past scouting system that inclusion is a betrayal of values?
 
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n_huffhines said:
What is the point exactly? That gender separation is such a foundational and important component of the past scouting system that inclusion is a betrayal of values?
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The point is that it's not the same organization as you insinuated, and the difference is more than a rename. They renamed it because it changed. It's the equivalent of you saying we would be betraying chic file a because they changed their name to six guys burgers and fries, after announcing they'll no longer be serving chicken sandwiches.

It's not the same organization, and the name change is only a symptom of why.

That s was my point. You said you don't understand. Maybe now you do.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
The point is that it's not the same organization as you insinuated, and the difference is more than a rename. They renamed it because it changed. It's the equivalent of you saying we would be betraying chic file a because they changed their name to six guys burgers and fries, after announcing they'll no longer be serving chicken sandwiches.

It's not the same organization, and the name change is only a symptom of why.

That s was my point. You said you don't understand. Maybe now you do.
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None of that eluded me, it's irrelevant to OP. You're the one missing my point. I am questioning why people are dancing on their grave? So what if CFA changes to 6 guys? You want them to fail now? You think CFA taught responsibility and 6 guys doesn't? Why?
 
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n_huffhines said:
None of that eluded me. You're the one missing my point. I am questioning why people are dancing on their grave? So what if CFA changes to 6 guys? You want them to fail now? You think CFA taught responsibility and 6 guys doesn't? Why?
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Is it your contention that gender definition and transgenderism isn't a great social and political divide?

I'm not sure that i see a lot of people dancing on their demise. In my circles, I see a lot of people that predicted their demise for turning against the traditional values most people viewed them as supporting and are now saying they told us so.

And if anyone is celebrating their demise, it's probably seen as a victory against sjw culture and an example that gutless surrender to culture war bullying doesn't work out.

It may just be perception or wishful thinking but I assume that's what you are seeing.

But to claim it's the same org that raised us is demonstrably false, and you just agreed that it's false after having made the statement.

WTH?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Is it your contention that gender definition and transgenderism isn't a great social and political divide?

I'm not sure that i see a lot of people dancing on their demise. In my circles, I see a lot of people that predicted their demise for turning against the traditional values most people viewed them as supporting and are now saying they told us so.

And if anyone is celebrating their demise, it's probably seen as a victory against sjw culture and an example that gutless surrender to culture war bullying doesn't work out.

It may just be perception or wishful thinking but I assume that's what you are seeing.

But to claim it's the same org that raised us is demonstrably false, and you just agreed that it's false after having made the statement.

WTH?
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That's actually a good explanation.

Your semantic arguments are big bummer, tho.
 
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n_huffhines said:
None of that eluded me, it's irrelevant to OP. You're the one missing my point. I am questioning why people are dancing on their grave? So what if CFA changes to 6 guys? You want them to fail now? You think CFA taught responsibility and 6 guys doesn't? Why?
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Not sure this is entirely relevant but I do believe some organizations would rather close up shop than cave to liberal idiocy.
 
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Septic said:
You have no idea what was or wasn't needed or what the new 'system' entails. Your manufactured outrage is likley based on Facebook memes and headlines that play on insecurities.
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No I can use common sense to dicern that the Boy Scouts is an organization for boys and the the Girl Scouts was for the girls. The only manufactured outrage is from idiot liberals ^ who feel the need to infiltrate everything with their idiotic ideology. If a girl thinks she’s a boy or vice versa they have bigger issues than trying to ruin everything in an effort to cater to them.
 
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C-south said:
No I can use common sense to dicern that the Boy Scouts is an organization for boys and the the Girl Scouts was for the girls. The only manufactured outrage is from idiot liberals ^ who feel the need to infiltrate everything with their idiotic ideology. If a girl thinks she’s a boy or vice versa they have bigger issues than trying to ruin everything in an effort to cater to them.
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Thanks for confirming that the full breadth of your opinion comes from partisan butthurt with literally zero knowledge of the orginazation other than the name.
 
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Septic said:
Thanks for confirming that the full breadth of your opinion comes from partisan butthurt with literally zero knowledge of the orginazation other than the name.
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There’s no butthurt in realizing that genders are actually different and having organizations for each is ok and even beneficial. Either of these organizations should be able to define the requirements to become a member regardless of someone’s confusion and mental disorder.
 
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C-south said:
There’s no butthurt in realizing that genders are actually different and having organizations for each is ok and even beneficial. Either of these organizations should be able to define the requirements to become a member regardless of someone’s confusion and mental disorder.
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Stop embarrassing yourself. The two organizations are fundamentally different to the core but I wouldn't suspect that you'd know that since the crux of your argument is that there is a gender included in the corporate name.

Does the Boys and Girls Club of America trigger your masculine insecurities because of the name too?

Given that the boy's program in the BSA will in no way shape or form be affected by the change, why then would it matter if the BSA opened up a program that is absolutely the same requirements for girls who want to camp, hike and fish with Dad while working towards a goal? All the while learning what it means to be self-reliant, independent and otherwise to have fun with the purpose of being a better citizen.

No, your focus is on what's between their legs - not what is in the best interest of the youth. The hang-ups in your noggin and all of the insecure facebook meme reposters are a "you problem" based flatly on ignorance.
 
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Septic said:
Stop embarrassing yourself. The two organizations are fundamentally different to the core but I wouldn't suspect that you'd know that since the crux of your argument is that there is a gender included in the corporate name.

Does the Boys and Girls Club of America trigger your masculine insecurities because of the name too?

Given that the boy's program in the BSA will in no way shape or form be affected by the change, why then would it matter if the BSA opened up a program that is absolutely the same requirements for girls who want to camp, hike and fish with Dad while working towards a goal? All the while learning what it means to be self-reliant, independent and otherwise to have fun with the purpose of being a better citizen.

No, your focus is on what's between their legs - not what is in the best interest of the youth. The hang-ups in your noggin and all of the insecure facebook meme reposters are a "you problem" based flatly on ignorance.
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How many girls were in your troop?
 
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Obsessed said:
How many girls were in your troop?
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None, there are no girl/boy Troops anywhere.

The guidelines are established, it's up to the chartering organization to allow for a separate girl troop or not.

My charter is exploring the idea but it will depend on the demand.
 
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