Nobody eats their own like the Vols

[tennrich1]

Unfortunately, these aren't you normal trolls. They are cave trolls that only come out of their dens when their fragile psyches are damaged and there sure-fire bet fell through. They must be fed because their wallets are foolishly light and the brains are empty. Only reason I can figure that the posts for some make you think our team is 1-6 and in the bottom 25.

I almost never read the game threads cause of the ridiculousness of it. I did however scan over after the game Saturday night. I noticed by a large margin most of the clearly out of touch comments were made by posters I did not recognize. I THINK we we all understand what the op is saying. CLEARLY…a lot of the criticism is from a place of ignorance. Freedom to do it? Absolutely! But realize when you post embarrassing stuff…you’ll usually get called out for it.

 

[Voltradamus]

Why is criticizing a 20 year-old man who is making $8mil to play Quarterback in a system he's been in since January 2003 such a "no-go"?

Nobody is threatening his life or calling him names. The vast majority of critique is legitimate. He is missing throws. He is missing reads.




It's fixable but to this point it's been a liability. That's not trolling, just the truth.

That part.

 

[Jxn Vol]

You can't excuse bad behavior as people caring too much. People can't just say what pops into their head, and then you excuse it as "They care a lot!" That's some twisted logic. These are adults, hold their asses accountable for what they say. It's called empathy. I can guarantee you that none of the people associated with the football team wants to fail, especially the young men that puts their health on the line everyday.

I’m not excusing it. Do you feel you are in a position to “hold their asses accountable”. Probably not.

I just know that there will always be folks that we don’t agree with. Understanding that your reality is: nothing can be done about it other than type out your opinion on an anonymous message board.

Everything else you said is ancillary to the topic.

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

Exhibit A: today’s page 1 of VN. Some of you people disgust me.

Sports message boards just may not be for you. Try another type forum.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Why is criticizing a 20 year-old man who is making $8mil to play Quarterback in a system he's been in since January 2003 such a "no-go"?

Nobody is threatening his life or calling him names. The vast majority of critique is legitimate. He is missing throws. He is missing reads.




It's fixable but to this point it's been a liability. That's not trolling, just the truth.

What is the end goal of the "critiquing"?

Hoping CJH and company get on here and learn from the real experts?

 

[TNinSC]

idc if nico throws 10 picks and fumbles it 5 times if we pull out a win against bama!

 

[bpalmer28]

Sports message boards just may not be for you. Try another type forum.

I've been an active member of Tennessee message boards for 19 years

 

[swampfoxfan]

It's not just the trolls. There are a ton of posters that speak as if they are experts, yet don't really know that much about it. It's easy to spot. Many seem to have personal grievances with players and coaches. That sector of fans exist

Exactly, I've been watching and cheering on vol football over 60 years. We have good seasons and some not so good. I don't know squat about how to evaluate or coach players nor how to plan a game. But I trust the staff that has revived Tennessee football to the point we are in the championship conversation.

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

Nobody eats their own like the Vols​

Live in AL now and have been reading and hearing Bama fans trashing their coaches and players for 2 weeks running. Already want to fire the DC. Lived in FL and GA, fans there did the same when things were not going good. This is not a Vol fan original. Fan emotions run high in sports.

 

[agent|orange]

What is the end goal of the "critiquing"?

Hoping CJH and company get on here and learn from the real experts?

lol, says you on the sports forum. At least I know why I'm here, you seem to not know.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Why is criticizing a 20 year-old man who is making $8mil to play Quarterback in a system he's been in since January 2003 such a "no-go"?

Nobody is threatening his life or calling him names. The vast majority of critique is legitimate. He is missing throws. He is missing reads.




It's fixable but to this point it's been a liability. That's not trolling, just the truth.

Saying he needs to get better is not a problem we all agree. However the bust comments and blaming it all on him when he has very little support from a very experienced OL and acting like he won't get better is a major issue. Using what he makes off his NIL as an excuse to completely and disrespectfully bash a young starter because he isn't making all the Heisman throws behind a stagnant OL is BS. Yes Nico needs to get better and will in due time but expecting him to fix the lack of give a damn by his LT and magically sh1t confidence is another.

 

[agent|orange]

Exactly, I've been watching and cheering on vol football over 60 years. We have good seasons and some not so good. I don't know squat about how to evaluate or coach players nor how to plan a game. But I trust the staff that has revived Tennessee football to the point we are in the championship conversation.

I would be willing to bet that if we were flies on a wall hearing Heupel and Halzle talk, they'd agree with the critique here. They may not be blasting Nico in the face with it but neither are we, as fans, unless we tweet at or boo the players which I am beyond 100% against. If a player is in a slump and comes here, well, they're old enough to be drafted for war so they might want to tighten their britches a little if they're so fragile that VN breaks them.

But regardless, you said you didn't know anything about football.

Nico is 46/76 521 1TD/1INT so far in 3 SEC games. That's not even 200 yards/game and 1 TD in 3 games. He's not pushing it downfield and he's not scoring.

Even worse is the 7/23 for 105 yards in the 4th Quarter of those games split. You know so little of football to where you think that's good?

 

[agent|orange]

Saying he needs to get better is not a problem we all agree. However the bust comments and blaming it all on him when he has very little support from a very experienced OL and acting like he won't get better is a major issue. Using what he makes off his NIL as an excuse to completely and disrespectfully bash a young starter because he isn't making all the Heisman throws behind a stagnant OL is BS. Yes Nico needs to get better and will in due time but expecting him to fix the lack of give a damn by his LT and magically sh1t confidence is another.

I don't think he's a bust. I think he's struggling and the OL is only part of it. If a QB holds onto the ball and gets sacked, that's not 100% on the OL.

 

[BigALWiLson]

I don't think he's a bust. I think he's struggling and the OL is only part of it. If a QB holds onto the ball and gets sacked, that's not 100% on the OL.

He's getting sacked more times than not in 3 seconds dude. When he does make a play it gets called back for some damn penalty. Sure he may hold it to long on occasion but that happens when you have zero confidence and do not trust the guys in front of you.

 

[agent|orange]

He's getting sacked more times than not in 3 seconds dude. When he does make a play it gets called back for some damn penalty. Sure he may hold it to long on occasion but that happens when you have zero confidence and do not trust the guys in front of you.

I'm not saying it's all Nico or all the OL. Straight up he's missed wide open reads and throws when he has a completely clean pocket. He has had a clean pocket and open guys and has rolled out of a clean pocket and into pressure. He lets the early hits rattle him and when the OL provides a clean pocket he, as stated earlier, is rattled. Those are hallmarks of a rattled and young QB.

I'm pretty sure we agree and have no idea what we're actually arguing here.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I would be willing to bet that if we were flies on a wall hearing Heupel and Halzle talk, they'd agree with the critique here. They may not be blasting Nico in the face with it but neither are we, as fans, unless we tweet at or boo the players which I am beyond 100% against. If a player is in a slump and comes here, well, they're old enough to be drafted for war so they might want to tighten their britches a little if they're so fragile that VN breaks them.

But regardless, you said you didn't know anything about football.

Nico is 46/76 521 1TD/1INT so far in 3 SEC games. That's not even 200 yards/game and 1 TD in 3 games. He's not pushing it downfield and he's not scoring.

Even worse is the 7/23 for 105 yards in the 4th Quarter of those games split. You know so little of football to where you think that's good?

You would lose that bet

 

[BigALWiLson]

I'm not saying it's all Nico or all the OL. Straight up he's missed wide open reads and throws when he has a completely clean pocket. He has had a clean pocket and open guys and has rolled out of a clean pocket and into pressure. He lets the early hits rattle him and when the OL provides a clean pocket he, as stated earlier, is rattled. Those are hallmarks of a rattled and young QB.

I'm pretty sure we agree and have no idea what we're actually arguing here.

Lol maybe. I want to see the OL perform early to let him get in rhythm. If that can happen on the reg we may see a different QB. Heard does not impress me. He is way out of shape and lazy. Campbell is at least hurt. Need a New guy coaching them IMO. But we will see. I don't disagree Nico should play better. However we have a ton of things going into that. Coaches and Players have to do better to get where they want to go

 

[volnbama_]

Why is criticizing a 20 year-old man who is making $8mil to play Quarterback in a system he's been in since January 2003 such a "no-go"?

Nobody is threatening his life or calling him names. The vast majority of critique is legitimate. He is missing throws. He is missing reads.




It's fixable but to this point it's been a liability. That's not trolling, just the truth.

He’s been performing below expectations but he hasn’t been a liability. The OL has been a liability and the offense will continue to stall until they perform at a higher level

 

[agent|orange]

He’s been performing below expectations but he hasn’t been a liability. The OL has been a liability and the offense will continue to stall until they perform at a higher level

16/26 (61%, 6.5ypa) 169 yards 0 TD 1 INT is a liability, especially in a game that ended tied in regulation and the opposing QB that was running an offense getting 6.3 yards per play got injured in a fluke accident.

10/17 (58%, 6.2ypa) 107 0/2 is another QB's statline in a Florida game that we lost 34-3. What makes Nico not a liability but the 2nd QB one?

 

[Wezcoast]

Any competitive player puts plenty of pressure on themselves to improve when they aren't playing well. Feeling negative energy from the stands won't help him . Support and cheering for him just might though. Everytime Bru catches a pass the crowd chants BRUuu . Maybe do that for a linemen to get them fired up .

 

[Lawrence Wright]

What is the end goal of the "critiquing"?

Hoping CJH and company get on here and learn from the real experts?

To feel better about not having $8M in their bank account.

 

[swampfoxfan]

I would be willing to bet that if we were flies on a wall hearing Heupel and Halzle talk, they'd agree with the critique here. They may not be blasting Nico in the face with it but neither are we, as fans, unless we tweet at or boo the players which I am beyond 100% against. If a player is in a slump and comes here, well, they're old enough to be drafted for war so they might want to tighten their britches a little if they're so fragile that VN breaks them.

But regardless, you said you didn't know anything about football.

Nico is 46/76 521 1TD/1INT so far in 3 SEC games. That's not even 200 yards/game and 1 TD in 3 games. He's not pushing it downfield and he's not scoring.

Even worse is the 7/23 for 105 yards in the 4th Quarter of those games split. You know so little of football to where you think that's good?

Thanks for being a jerk. I didn't say I knew nothing about football, but probably know as much as you about what Coach JH looks for in a QB or how he develops them. Of course he might be calling you daily for advice, but I doubt it.

 

[Wezcoast]

He's getting sacked more times than not in 3 seconds dude. When he does make a play it gets called back for some damn penalty. Sure he may hold it to long on occasion but that happens when you have zero confidence and do not trust the guys in front of you.

That's hurting us as much or more than anything ; the penalties . If they'd stop the boneheaded mistakes it's a lot easier to get in rhythm.

 

[Matt2496]

Suggesting that the face of program should transfer and saying we should take back his NIL is not an expression of legitimate concerns.

Can you quote an example of this being said on VN? Someone who says something like this should be publicly shamed.

 

[volnbama_]

16/26 (61%, 6.5ypa) 169 yards 0 TD 1 INT is a liability, especially in a game that ended tied in regulation and the opposing QB that was running an offense getting 6.3 yards per play got injured in a fluke accident.

10/17 (58%, 6.2ypa) 107 0/2 is another QB's statline in a Florida game that we lost 34-3. What makes Nico not a liability but the 2nd QB one?

Obviously Nico’s stats are better than the stats from player 2. Higher completion percentage, more yards, less turnovers, and a win. Is number 2 Joe? Because he was a 5th or 6th year senior