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But who has Villanova beaten? The only power 5 team they played was Baylor and Iowa State and they lost to both. They took a loss to Creighton and two losses to Uconn even when Uconn was at its worst. If the committee looks closely at what they have done, then that shoud not be a number 4. Then they have North Carolina Sitting on a 4 seed, but they have lost 5 of their last 9 with 3 bad losses. Tennessee has a better shot to host than North Carolina for sure and depending on tomorrows outcome with Villanova and Uconn, Villanova needs to be moved down. They have a crappy resume. Then you have UCLA with two losses to unranked Washington State in the last 5 games. I am not buying they are a 4 seed either. With the inner turmoil going on at Texas, they will be lucky to get to the final of the Big 12. Creme has UCLA and Texas as automatic qualifiers. I wouldn't use his bet slip if I wanted to win anything.
Sorry, I had a dumb question.
 
But who has Villanova beaten? The only power 5 team they played was Baylor and Iowa State and they lost to both. They took a loss to Creighton and two losses to Uconn even when Uconn was at its worst. If the committee looks closely at what they have done, then that shoud not be a number 4. Then they have North Carolina Sitting on a 4 seed, but they have lost 5 of their last 9 with 3 bad losses. Tennessee has a better shot to host than North Carolina for sure and depending on tomorrows outcome with Villanova and Uconn, Villanova needs to be moved down. They have a crappy resume. Then you have UCLA with two losses to unranked Washington State in the last 5 games. I am not buying they are a 4 seed either. With the inner turmoil going on at Texas, they will be lucky to get to the final of the Big 12. Creme has UCLA and Texas as automatic qualifiers. I wouldn't use his bet slip if I wanted to win anything.
Do tell . . .
 
Didn't you hear those interviews last week after they lost to Baylor? Harmon basically threw her team under the bus following that game calling them lazy and not wanting to win. I would have cited that interview, but it is no where to be found. Imagine that.
That's not what she said; but, feel free to invent more quotes.

Did you see that Vic supported her comments about not every player giving their maximum effort against Baylor? That's the gist.

Did you see how the team played the next game out on Saturday afternoon at Kansas State to win a share of the Big 12 title and the #1 seed in the upcoming conference tourney? Sounds like Rori's motivational tactics worked.

Watch this "internal turmoil" . . .


 
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That's not what she said; but, feel free to invent more quotes.

Did you see that Vic supported her comments about not every player giving their maximum effort against Baylor? That's the gist.

Did you see how the team played the next game out on Saturday afternoon at Kansas State to win a share of the Big 12 title and the #1 seed in the upcoming conference tourney? Sounds like Rori's motivational tactics worked.

Watch this "internal turmoil" . . .



Co-Champions with twice the talent of Oklahoma. They will be lucky to make it to the big 12 championship and yes VIC basically through that team under the bus too. Great job motivating the team to get that win over bottom of the League Kansas State. Had they taken care of the likes of Texas Tech and Oklahoma State during league play, they wouldn't have had to share it. With the Loss of Kim Mulkey from that conference the standard has dropped significantly.
 
It can't hurt UT if Villanova loses.


Villanova is one of the teams I think will embarrass the AP/coaches poll the most. They are ranked 11 and i would not be at all shocked to see them exit in the first round. They are way too dependent on one player.

If they were in the SEC they’d have about 4 conference wins because Siegeist wouldn’t be able to score or rebound like she does against the majority of the SEC teams. I know it’s all hypothetical, but I’m just not that impressed. They have no balance.
 
Yeah but will it actually help? This is UConn I'll be rooting for, so I need higher standards.

Actually, I know not much can help us now. Our cake is baked. I just hope we don't get a murderous first round draw.


I don’t suspect so. I think Villanova will be (erroneously) seeded ahead of us regardless of the outcome today.

Washington State winning the PAC-12 was also not ideal for us. Going to be hard for the committee to not have them host after that and they are 23-10.

Still think our SOS should get us the top 16 see but it’s gonna be close.
 
Co-Champions with twice the talent of Oklahoma. They will be lucky to make it to the big 12 championship and yes VIC basically through that team under the bus too. Great job motivating the team to get that win over bottom of the League Kansas State. Had they taken care of the likes of Texas Tech and Oklahoma State during league play, they wouldn't have had to share it. With the Loss of Kim Mulkey from that conference the standard has dropped significantly.

I won’t be shocked to see Texas win the Big 12 tourney, but I think they’ll be an early out in the NCAA. They have been very inconsistent this season. Gonzales doesn’t have the consistent ability to score against top defenders. If she doesn’t put up 20+ every game they lose.
 
I don’t suspect so. I think Villanova will be (erroneously) seeded ahead of us regardless of the outcome today.

Washington State winning the PAC-12 was also not ideal for us. Going to be hard for the committee to not have them host after that and they are 23-10.

Still think our SOS should get us the top 16 see but it’s gonna be close.
I think were looking at a five or six with me thinking we get the five. I just hope it is the first five so we can get in with one of those Big Ten teams or Va Tech if they get the one seed. The schedule we decided to play cost us home court this season in the NCAA. LSU will have the home court and a big advantage over the teams in there with them as a two seed. We could've beat all those teams they beat and had at least six more wins. I think the data will say yes we are number one in SOS but that isn't helping you much when it comes to seeding. LSU way up there close to 100 SOS got a great advantage just through scheduling. In the end if they make the sweet sixteen and we lose on the road in the 32 all that will be remembered will be they were a sweet sixteen team and we were not. The message to me seems yes schedule two or three top teams not 10. Play those other seven against 100 to 150 ranked teams and come out with that big win total and then your at home when it actually matters.
 
I think were looking at a five or six with me thinking we get the five. I just hope it is the first five so we can get in with one of those Big Ten teams or Va Tech if they get the one seed. The schedule we decided to play cost us home court this season in the NCAA. LSU will have the home court and a big advantage over the teams in there with them as a two seed. We could've beat all those teams they beat and had at least six more wins. I think the data will say yes we are number one in SOS but that isn't helping you much when it comes to seeding. LSU way up there close to 100 SOS got a great advantage just through scheduling. In the end if they make the sweet sixteen and we lose on the road in the 32 all that will be remembered will be they were a sweet sixteen team and we were not. The message to me seems yes schedule two or three top teams not 10. Play those other seven against 100 to 150 ranked teams and come out with that big win total and then your at home when it actually matters.

I agree with this assessment. I too think we will get the 5 seed and likely the #1 5 seed. That’s always a dangerous place to be though as we will be playing a couple tough teams even in the first two rounds.

Holding out hope for the outside chance we host. They would never admit it, but I do know fan attendance plays a part in that decision as well. Nobody likes watching teams play on national TV in an empty arena. Not good for the sport.
 
The schedule we decided to play cost us home court this season in the NCAA. LSU will have the home court and a big advantage over the teams in there with them as a two seed. We could've beat all those teams they beat and had at least six more wins
Yep. I was thinking about that Saturday night when the announcers said 10 million times how much the schedule paid off in the win. Remains to be seen whether it truly offsets the damage of the losses, depending on what we're faced with in the early rounds.

And it didn't have to be Cupcakes at Kim's Bakery for six more wins. Just one or two more wins against mid majors instead of losses against potential top 10ers would have probably pushed us over into hosting. KJH went for the Daily Double and lost her money, might not make Final Jeopardy.
 
I agree with this assessment. I too think we will get the 5 seed and likely the #1 5 seed. That’s always a dangerous place to be though as we will be playing a couple tough teams even in the first two rounds.

Holding out hope for the outside chance we host. They would never admit it, but I do know fan attendance plays a part in that decision as well. Nobody likes watching teams play on national TV in an empty arena. Not good for the sport.
Creme has North Carolina as a four and that is the only one I don't agree with. Who would replace them Louisville or Tennessee would seem to be the top choices. Both made Championship games in their league and NC with a conference record of 11 and 7 is kind of not worthy of a four seed even if they did beat a few overrated ACC teams in their league.
 
Yep. I was thinking about that Saturday night when the announcers said 10 million times how much the schedule paid off in the win. Remains to be seen whether it truly offsets the damage of the losses, depending on what we're faced with in the early rounds.

And it didn't have to be Cupcakes at Kim's Bakery for six more wins. Just one or two more wins against mid majors instead of losses against potential top 10ers would have probably pushed us over into hosting. KJH went for the Daily Double and lost her money, might not make Final Jeopardy.


Hope she has learned from this. SEC is tough enough most seasons. We do not need to kill our confidence in the OOC. We were 6-6 at one point to start the year. That’s a gut punch of a record for a talented group to have hanging over their head.

The Ohio State game in particular I thought was the dumbest coaching decision I have seen in some time. Opening on the road against a team that presses 40 minutes full court was a horrendous idea. People jumped down my throat about Horston needing a homecoming game.

I’d guarantee you Horston would rather be hosting in the NCAA tourney than have played that game at Ohio State. If you’re gonna give a player a homecoming it should be almost a sure win anyway most times. I hated that game so much.
 
Creme has North Carolina as a four and that is the only one I don't agree with. Who would replace them Louisville or Tennessee would seem to be the top choices. Both made Championship games in their league and NC with a conference record of 11 and 7 is kind of not worthy of a four seed even if they did beat a few overrated ACC teams in their league.

No way they get a 4. ACC as a whole was weak this season.
 
I agree with this assessment. I too think we will get the 5 seed and likely the #1 5 seed. That’s always a dangerous place to be though as we will be playing a couple tough teams even in the first two rounds.

Holding out hope for the outside chance we host. They would never admit it, but I do know fan attendance plays a part in that decision as well. Nobody likes watching teams play on national TV in an empty arena. Not good for the sport.

Looking at Charlie Creme's current projected 4 seeds, we'd be favored over all of them on a neutral court (per HHS), which is kind of why homecourt advantage for anyone in these early rounds is sucky. That said, we'd be favored to beat UNC or UCLA on the road (even though UCLA beat us this year on a neutral court), whereas we'd be projected to lose to Villanova by 3 on the road or beat them by 5 at home.

If we're a 5, the only 12 I really wouldn't want is South Dakota State. We're only projected to beat them by 2 on a neutral court, whereas we'd be a 9 point favorite over Toledo or 14 points over West Virginia/St. John's.
 
Creme has North Carolina as a four and that is the only one I don't agree with. Who would replace them Louisville or Tennessee would seem to be the top choices. Both made Championship games in their league and NC with a conference record of 11 and 7 is kind of not worthy of a four seed even if they did beat a few overrated ACC teams in their league.
Another irony that us and Louisville had such similar seasons, identical 23-11 records. Both of us got miserable in the Bahamas. Our conference record is better 13-3 - 12-6, but is our conference overall considered weaker? Is our win in tourney over LSU better than theirs over a depleted Notre Dame?

I don't usually buy BVS, but this year I truly think no one wants to reward the LVs for anything. Everyone feels let down and disappointed and doesn't trust us. I only hope we don't get the ultimate butt kick and get a bad 5 instead of a good 6.

I'll just be super glad to get out of the SEC where people know us so well. Watching Horston and Jackson on film does not equal playing against Horston and Jackson.
 
Another irony that us and Louisville had such similar seasons, identical 23-11 records. Both of us got miserable in the Bahamas. Our conference record is better 13-3 - 12-6, but is our conference overall considered weaker? Is our win in tourney over LSU better than theirs over a depleted Notre Dame?

I don't usually buy BVS, but this year I truly think no one wants to reward the LVs for anything. Everyone feels let down and disappointed and doesn't trust us. I only hope we don't get the ultimate butt kick and get a bad 5 instead of a good 6.

I'll just be super glad to get out of the SEC where people know us so well. Watching Horston and Jackson on film does not equal playing against Horston and Jackson.
I see NC as the four that can be replaced. I don't know who will get it whomever does will be in the SC bracket probably as the fourth four team. If were the first five we'll probably be in with Indiana or Va Tech if they are the one seed. Not really sure of that as Iowa could be that team very close between those two. If I thought we could escape the first two on the road somewhere would love to be in Va Tech or Indiana bracket. We lost to both but in one no Rickea and in the other no Jordan.
 
Looking at Charlie Creme's current projected 4 seeds, we'd be favored over all of them on a neutral court (per HHS), which is kind of why homecourt advantage for anyone in these early rounds is sucky. That said, we'd be favored to beat UNC or UCLA on the road (even though UCLA beat us this year on a neutral court), whereas we'd be projected to lose to Villanova by 3 on the road or beat them by 5 at home.

If we're a 5, the only 12 I really wouldn't want is South Dakota State. We're only projected to beat them by 2 on a neutral court, whereas we'd be a 9 point favorite over Toledo or 14 points over West Virginia/St. John's.

I would not put any stock in his predictions. He is egregiously off most years for someone who claims to be a “bracketologist” again, whatever that is.


West Virginia is absolutely not a team I would like to play. Coach P is an excellent coach and they had some really quality wins this season. They beat a good Iowa State team and just beat a pretty hot OSU team.

Oklahoma State is a team to watch in the Big 12 tourney. They are so fun to watch and they really take on their coaches firey personality. I wouldn’t be at all shocked to see them come away with the title. They are a tough bunch and play with a lot of heart. They won several games they shouldn’t have either.

Hoyt is going to recruit well there and I think they will be at the top of the Big 12 within 2 seasons.

Baylor will be looking for a new coach after next season. As soon as the rest of the players Kim recruited are gone they will be a sub .500 team without a doubt. Collen is no coach.

They have two players in LPB and Fontleroy that I suspect will be in the portal and I wouldn’t be mad to have either one. Two really talented kids that are going to languish at a crappy program with a crappy coach if they don’t leave.
 

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