Not sure any longer

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Freak said:
Seriously, if you have an issue email me. I'm not gonna pretend like we don't miss stuff and make stupid decisions sometimes.

I guarantee you can easily pick out several valid posts/threads every weekend during and after games that should probably be dealt with. It's a zoo and if you think it's hard to read sometimes, you should try moderating.

I'll be honest, sometimes we just throw our hands up and wait for things to settle down. :)
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Seriously, you couldn't pay me the money I'd ask for to be a mod on this site. The ones that volunteer their time to do it automatically get my respect.
 
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This thread was great to re-read from the beginning and slowly watch some of our nega-vols make fools of themselves :birgits_giggle:
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Coach Jones talks a very good game, says all the right things etc. But I gotta say that today some of the decisions that this staff has made has me scratching my head.

The normal excuses that most use to defend the staff aren't gonna work today.

The adjustments that are made at the half will be telling. We have an outside chance here.
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lol...you should either stop drinking earlier or start later
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Coach Jones talks a very good game, says all the right things etc. But I gotta say that today some of the decisions that this staff has made has me scratching my head.

The normal excuses that most use to defend the staff aren't gonna work today.

The adjustments that are made at the half will be telling. We have an outside chance here.
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Still scratching? It could be fleas.
 
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BaldBiker said:
Dude just stop. Take what you have coming to you. You came on here spewing garbage, thinking you would be one of the first to start a thread this week giving your opinion on how crappy you think this coaching staff is. Your little half azzed statement about half time adjustments was nothing more than your way of setting things up to continue your rant in the second half.

What I took from this thread is that the "Legion of the Miserable" got really quiet in here in the second half. With nothing to Bi**h about, you had nothing to say. Do yourself a big favor.......stop posting. At minimum, don't start any more threads. You and the rest of the LOTM got Butch slapped yesterday. :the_finger:
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I live right down the road in Goodletsville. Lets ride over to Skulls have a beer and discuss it. I'm betting you won't be as big an ass in person.
 
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Freak said:
You don't see any difference between being critical of a few calls and starting a thread mid-game stating "I'm not sure anymore" and "the normal excuses aren't going to work anymore"?

Come on. You playing the victim card a bit hard based on what you posted. Jmo.
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Really? Didn't you start a thread yourself at halftime about "why no time out"?

If you just want a forum where everyone thinks the same things and agrees with one another why not just make it the rule?

What I don't understand is why even post in the thread in the first place. If someone disagrees ok, but why allow the name calling, and the rest of the BS?

I can guarantee you will never find or see a thread or reply where I have purposely insulted another member. Everyone has their opinion and is entitled to it. If I think its stupid, idiotic etc. I simply ignore it or not click on it.

But hey its your forum.
 
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What happened to the "I hope Butch watched Manning tonight" thread. That had gold all over it. :)

(I seriously want to know, btw...)
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
I live right down the road in Goodletsville. Lets ride over to Skulls have a beer and discuss it. I'm betting you won't be as big an ass in person.
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Personal threats now? Classy.

Didn't you just email me like two minutes ago wanting your account canceled?

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Really? Didn't you start a thread yourself at halftime about "why no time out"?
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What are you talking about, now? I did start a thread questioning the time out. I do that a lot. And people were willing to discuss whether or not it was the right move. it was a critique. I'm not sure I agree with the way Butch handled that. What's your point?

If you just want a forum where everyone thinks the same things and agrees with one another why not just make it the rule?
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Why would I make a rule that everyone should agree? That would defeat the point of having a forum. Although, based on your complaints, maybe that's the type of forum you're looking for.

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Of course here on Volnation now, if your the least bit critical your no longer a fan, just a negavol.
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I just posted my opinion that maybe the "I don't know anymore" title and "the same excuses are going to work" had more to do with the responses you are getting than any critique you may offer.

What I don't understand is why even post in the thread in the first place. If someone disagrees ok, but why allow the name calling, and the rest of the BS?
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So I'm not allowed to post now? I'm just posting my opinion like everyone else. You're free to take it or leave it.

If it's the name calling that's upsetting you. I'm not a fan of that either. But there are a lot of people on here who can't seem to debate without it. We've cleaned up dozens of posts since the game and honestly it gets tiresome. If you use the report button, we will be happy to take a look.

I can guarantee you will never find or see a thread or reply where I have purposely insulted another member. Everyone has their opinion and is entitled to it. If I think its stupid, idiotic etc. I simply ignore it or not click on it.
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Didn't you just threaten the poster above? And I assume you mean everyone is entitled to an opinion except for me, since I'm apparently not supposed to be posting.

Bottom line: lighten up. Not everyone will applaud you when you make comments AT HALFTIME like "I don't know anymore" and "the same excuses aren't going to work".
 
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Oh, and can you point me to the name calling and other BS in this thread that you are referring to? Just for the sake of clarity.

I assume you aren't referring to the post where you made a derogatory assumption about what type of parent a poster is, or the one where you were expecting a reasonable response, not one from your wife. Those two do seem kinda personal to me, actually.

After those two gems and you physically threatening the guy above, you've piqued my interest as to which insults in this thread are bothering you so.
 
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Freak said:
Personal threats now? Classy.

Didn't you just email me like two minutes ago wanting your account canceled?



What are you talking about, now? I did start a thread questioning the time out. I do that a lot. And people were willing to discuss whether or not it was the right move. it was a critique. I'm not sure I agree with the way Butch handled that. What's your point?



Why would I make a rule that everyone should agree? That would defeat the point of having a forum.

You posted:

I just posted my opinion that maybe the "I don't know anymore" title and "the same excuses are going to work" had more to do with the responsed you are getting than any critique you may offer.


So I'm not allowed to post now? I'm just posting my opinion like everyone else. You're free to take it or leave it.

If it's the name calling that's upsetting you. I'm not a fan of that either. But there are a lot of people on here who can't seem to debate without it. We've cleaned up dozens of posts since the game and honestly it gets tiresome. If you use the report button, we will be happy to take a look.



Didn't you just threaten the poster above? And I assume you mean everyone is entitle to an opinion except for me, since I'm apparently not supposed to be posting.

Bottom line: lighten up. Not everyone will applaud you when you make comments like "I don't know anymore" and "the same excuses are going to work".
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Threaten the poster above? No I invited him for a beer and the chance to discuss it. I guess its as classy as allowing members to call other members idiots, stupid etc. There has been at least one Mod and yourself in this thread where it has taken place.

I wasn't implying that you shouldn't be posting, my bad. It was meant in general terms. Of course you have every right to respond, its your forum after all.

Your right, it would defeat the purpose of a "forum". Thats exactly the point.

Its great to talk about all the good stuff and the positives. We could all sit back and feel good about the game and not talk about any of the glaring issues. Be kinda boring wouldn't ya think? Whats wrong with trying to discuss some of the issues? Like the fact that we let the third string tailback rush for over 100 yds, continuing to not jump the slant routes, playing outside in with our LB's on the weak side when they go unbalanced (which they scored on), letting them drive the field with less than 3min to go in the game to tie etc.? But it seems that if you do, your labeled a negavol or get attacked personally.
 
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Freak said:
Oh, and can you point me to the name calling and other BS in this thread that you are referring to? Just for the sake of clarity.

I assume you aren't referring to the post where you made a derogatory assumption about what type of parent a poster is, or the one where you were expecting a reasonable response, not one from your wife. Those two do seem kinda personal to me.

After those two gems and you physically threatening the guy above, you've piqued my interest as to which insults in this thread are bothering you so.
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I only wish I'd read this thread sooner. In service to VN, I vow to bump it daily, or at least in response to the OP's future Roy D Mercer moments. (Speaking of... Freak, is there any kind of ink blot captcha service you can use to profile people before giving them an account? lol)
 
#143
#143
Godfatha said:
Glad you're so sure of that. A lot of people were sure about Dooley, too.
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The early excitement for Dooley was wishful, hopeful, desperate thinking. We were all starved for a return to our rightful place after a few down yrs with CPF and a disastrous exit by Kiffin. We'd have felt that way about virtually any coach at that point.

Here's the difference....Dooley had a .400 win percentage when he came to town, with absolutely nothing to hang his hat on other than his last name. Butch.... well, we all know his record, his 4 outright/shared championships and how he has embraced our program, players and tradition. No comparison whatsoever to Dooley. New sheriff in town.... and yesterday was a big step toward seeing what the future holds with him in charge IMHO.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Threaten the poster above? No I invited him for a beer and the chance to discuss it. I guess its as classy as allowing members to call other members idiots, stupid etc. There has been at least one Mod and yourself in this thread where it has taken place.
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Posting that, with the expectation that anyone would believe it, is effectively calling us idiots.
 
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Freak said:
Oh, and can you point me to the name calling and other BS in this thread that you are referring to? Just for the sake of clarity.

I assume you aren't referring to the post where you made a derogatory assumption about what type of parent a poster is, or the one where you were expecting a reasonable response, not one from your wife. Those two do seem kinda personal to me, actually.

After those two gems and you physically threatening the guy above, you've piqued my interest as to which insults in this thread are bothering you so.
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Freak, I'm not gonna get into a debate with the forum owner. Losing proposition. Your right I probably should not have responded that way to those two posters. I have control of my keyboard and I choose to just let it be. You can jump on the bandwagon and hammer away. Your call.

I was a part owner in one of the largest biker forums in the US for quite some time. Its not an easy job and I'm not gonna make yours any harder.
 
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#147
FLSTF-VOL said:
Threaten the poster above? No I invited him for a beer and the chance to discuss it.
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We all know what you meant.

I guess its as classy as allowing members to call other members idiots, stupid etc. There has been at least one Mod and yourself in this thread where it has taken place.
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If I called someone an idiot, then I owe them an apology. Link?

I wasn't implying that you shouldn't be posting, my bad. It was meant in general terms. Of course you have every right to respond, its your forum after all.

Your right, it would defeat the purpose of a "forum". Thats exactly the point.
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That was my point. I was asking what your point was.


Its great to talk about all the good stuff and the positives. We could all sit back and feel good about the game and not talk about any of the glaring issues. Be kinda boring wouldn't ya think? Whats wrong with trying to discuss some of the issues? Like the fact that we let the third string tailback rush for over 100 yds, continuing to not jump the slant routes, playing outside in with our LB's on the weak side when they go unbalanced (which they scored on), letting them drive the field with less than 3min to go in the game to tie etc.? But it seems that if you do, your labeled a negavol or get attacked personally.
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I need to go back and read the original post, or maybe you do, because I don't think that's what I read.

Why can't you discuss it? I'll discuss it with you right now.

I agree that UGA's running game gashed us all night and it was, in fact their third string guy, doing it. Their offense looked much more physical running the football than did our defense. I'm honestly surprised they didn't run it more at times, but you can't argue with putting the ball in Murray's hands either.

The slant routes were a huge issue early. I'm not really sure what to say about it. Like you, I noticed it. I think it's partly due to some of our inherent weaknesses on defense, although we seemed to do a better job in the second half. What's your take?

I'll have to go back and look at where you're referencing with our linebackers, but if I understand you correctly, I think I noticed the same thing at Florida. I might be able to offer more insight once I've had a chance to watch the replay. Again, what's your take? Do you see this as a fundamental issue with the defensive scheme or missed assignments?

While we're on defense, I'll offer another critique. Our staff still needs to do a better job getting the plays in from the sidelines. I noticed it happening again yesterday. This is a bit concerning because it's a recurring issue not that we've had issues with since Oregon.

On the last drive, they had a senior quarterback who's one of the best in the league, at the helm. You have to like his chances in that situation, against anyone, not just us. At the time, I thought to myself that we needed an interception or at least a sack to stop them, but we weren't able to get either. Obviously the pass to the back down the sideline killed us, and again, it's that outside speed that continues to rear it's ugly head and present problems week after week.

Your turn.
 
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letting them drive the last 3 minutes? it wasn't like they were in a prevent...they got burned on the wheel route with the fullback,the exact same play we burned UGA with earlier on 4th down...
they also had a few bad calls on that last drive and a few on 3rd down and some very questionable pass interference calls kept the drive alive... they had 7 downs from the 10 yard line...

the 3rd string RB was fast... what's our D's biggest liability??? SPEED...
You can't coach it...

as far as scheming goes,I know there are better ways to defend certain
alignments,but they make a call,sometimes they have to audible,and with no
timeouts,maybe they were trying to correct it but couldn't....thats why I don't
get into the one play second guessing,too many things I don't know...I just look at
the big picture and overall improvement...
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Freak, I'm not gonna get into a debate with the forum owner. Losing proposition. Your right I probably should not have responded that way to those two posters. I have control of my keyboard and I choose to just let it be. You can jump on the bandwagon and hammer away. Your call.

I was a part owner in one of the largest biker forums in the US for quite some time. Its not an easy job and I'm not gonna make yours any harder.
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Don't miss my post above. Let's critique.

I'm not trying to put you in a losing proposition. I'm honestly just trying to have a discussion with you.

You're entitled to your opinion. My only rational for posting was to try to point out that a lot of times, it's not the "critiques" that cause people to respond unkindly, but quotes like "I don't know anymore" that lead people to believe you are throwing in the towel after six games. That's really all I was trying to say.
 
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triad280 said:
letting them drive the last 3 minutes? it wasn't like they were in a prevent...they got burned on the wheel route with the fullback,the exact same play we burned UGA with earlier on 4th down...
they also had a few bad calls on that last drive and a few on 3rd down and some very questionable pass interference calls kept the drive alive... they had 7 downs from the 10 yard line...

the 3rd string RB was fast... what's our D's biggest liability??? SPEED...
You can't coach it...

as far as scheming goes,I know there are better ways to defend certain
alignments,but they make a call,sometimes they have to audible,and with no
timeouts,maybe they were trying to correct it but couldn't....thats why I don't
get into the one play second guessing,too many things I don't know...I just look at
the big picture and overall improvement...
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All fair points. Although I don't think the pass interference really had an impact on the outcome. The personal foul might have though.

Like I mentioned above, we have to figure out how to get our defensive calls in more quickly. At one point, McCullers was still looking to the sideline when the ball was snapped.
 
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