Obama asks for stay of execution in Texas.

#78
#78
Wasn't the argument he might have only gotten life in prison if he talked with the Consulate? I understand the principle of the argument, but this guy is was the worst possible poster boy for your cause.
 
#79
#79
He did the crime. He probably deserves death, but I am against capital punishment because I don't like the idea of a government with the power to kill. If they want a deterrent, make life in prison more miserable.
 
#80
#80
sjt18 said:
IOW's the ends do justify the means... you are just interested in different ends?
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No. My end is getting rid of a sorry SOB. I just don't think we should endanger Americans overseas and be perceived as breaking treaties to do it if we don't have to.
 
#81
#81
nbakerld said:
To me it's not about states rights vs federal government. It's about national sovereignty.
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As with his lawsuit against Arizona over its mere
upholding of Federal laws with SB1070, his unilateral
approval for access for Mexican drivers in the U.S.,
and his virtual amnesty for “Dreamer” illegal aliens,
Obama once again chose Mexico over the American
people.

This last disgraceful act by Obama was a slap
in the face to the Sauceda Family – who had
waited far too long for justice, as well as the
People of Texas, whose sovereignty clearly
means nothing to him.
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Read more at standwitharizona.com ...

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tim said:
Don't mess with Texas.
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The Texas position was that they weren't
subject to the decission of any foreign
court.

Long live the Republic of Texas.

Humberto Leal confessed to the brutal rape and
murder before he was executed, his last words
were; "Viva
Mexico."

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#83
#83
Why? Becausae he is a rapist and murderer??

Wouldn't that be profiling??

Islam isn't the only force of evil on Earth, read on:



Obama Pal and Terrorist Dohrn Linked to Mexican Killer Case

President Obama’s intervention on behalf of an illegal
alien killer can be traced back to a 2003 conference
that featured Bernardine Dohrn, Van Jones, and
representatives of the Soros-funded Open Society
Institute. “The purpose of the conference was to find
ways to insinuate international (read: United Nations)
laws and resolutions in American legal arenas, as Sandra
Babcock is attempting to do to free her client, Humberto
Leal,” Trent reports on her blog.

Babcock is the attorney for a killer described in liberal
media reports as “a Mexican national” who is in fact an
illegal alien convicted of the 1994 kidnapping, rape, and
murder of 16-year-old Adria Sauceda in San Antonio,
Texas. Leal was scheduled to be executed on Thursday
night in Texas before the Obama Administration
intervened on his behalf, claiming his rights as an illegal
in the U.S., under an international treaty, had not been
protected. Leal has had the benefit of 45 different
hearings and appeals and his guilt is beyond question.
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In intervening on behalf of Leal, Obama is acting on
behalf of the government of Mexico.
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Indeed, Babcock’s work has been funded by the
government of Mexico. According to Babcock’s
biography, “From 2000-2006 she served as director
of the Mexican Capital Legal Assistance Program, a
program funded by the Mexican Foreign Ministry to
assist Mexican nationals facing capital punishment
in the United States. For her work, she was awarded
the Aguila Azteca, the highest honor bestowed by
the government of Mexico upon citizens of foreign
countries, in 2003.”

Dohrn is the former leader of the communist terrorist
Weather Underground who, with her husband and
fellow terrorist Bill Ayers, hosted a fundraiser for
Barack Obama when he ran for the state Senate in
Illinois. She praised the followers of mass murderer
Charles Manson and Manson himself as a “true
revolutionary.”

Dohrn and Ayers signed a document, “Prairie Fire:
The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism,”
dedicated in part to Sirhan Sirhan, the Marxist
Palestinian who killed Robert F. Kennedy. This
endorsement played a role in the University of
Illinois denying Ayers, who had been a professor
of education at the school, emeritus status after
he retired.

For her part, Dohrn was jailed for seven months for
refusing to cooperate with a grand jury investigating
the murder of two policemen and a security guard in
the 1981 Brinks robbery. She is accused by former
FBI informant Larry Grathwohl, based on a meeting
he had with Ayers, of planting the bomb that killed
San Francisco Police Sergeant Brian V. McDonnell
in 1970.
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No doubt you support such morons as Dohrn. :crazy:

So we had a president and a potential president
assassinated by marxists but I don't understand
marxism? :loco:
 
#84
#84
List of America's enemies:

1. Wolves
2. Liberals
3. Islam
4. Socialism
5. Mexico

Who am I missing?
 
#87
#87
Details of the murder were particularly gruesome.

Adria Sauceda, 16, his victim, was found naked by authorities, according to court documents.

"There was a 30- to 40-pound asphalt rock roughly twice the size of the victim's skull lying partially on the victim's left arm," court documents read. "Blood was underneath this rock. A smaller rock with blood on it was located near the victim's right thigh.”

A "bloody and broken" stick roughly 15 inches long with a screw at the end of it was also protruding from the girl's vagina, according to the documents.

In his first statement to police, Leal said Sauceda bolted from his car and ran off. After he was told his brother had given detectives a statement, he changed his story, saying Sauceda attacked him and fell to the ground after he fought back. He said when he couldn't wake her and saw bubbles in her nose, he got scared and went home.

Last Friday, the Obama administration asked the U.S. Supreme Court to stop Texas from executing Leal, asking the court to delay the execution for up to six months to give Congress time to consider legislation that would enforce the U.N. treaty.

Congress had three years to pass the bill but did not. Hence, it was impossible to pass a bill that would spare Leal unless a stay is ordered.

Mexico's foreign ministry said in a statement that the government condemned Leal's execution and sent a note of protest to the U.S. State Department. The ministry also said Mexican ambassador Arturo Sarukhan attempted to contact the Texas governor, who refused to speak on the phone.

The governor's office declined to comment on the execution Thursday, but his office appeared to bristle at the idea of an international body influencing the state's sovereignty.

For 16 years, Leal has exercised his right to file appeals and motions so extensively, one judge in federal district court called his case "one of the most procedurally convoluted and complex habeas corpus proceedings" he ever reviewed.
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A good and just kill IMO.
 
#93
#93
A action taken by our POTUS to gain spanish speaking votes through propaganda in a state with his likely rival...all the while there is no doubt this individual killed and raped this girl...he received more due process then any man could ask for...and our POTUS turn it into a political FUBAR. Obama belongs on death row if any American dies due to this now. Obama already belongs dressed in all orange.
 
#94
#94
Jewbaccah said:
A action taken by our POTUS to gain spanish speaking votes through propaganda in a state with his likely rival...all the while there is no doubt this individual killed and raped this girl...he received more due process then any man could ask for...and our POTUS turn it into a political FUBAR. Obama belongs on death row if any American dies due to this now. Obama already belongs dressed in all orange.
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Your opinions and your grammar make me weep for the future.
 
#97
#97
Jewbaccah said:
Let the hate flow through you.
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I don't understand. Outsiders view this as the US breaking a treaty, as I said they might, and now you are saying Obama should pay the penalty for Texas playing their states' rights game? All because they had the right to refuse doesn't mean it was a sensible time to invoke that right.
 
#99
#99
IPorange said:
I don't understand. Outsiders view this as the US breaking a treaty, as I said they might, and now you are saying Obama should pay the penalty for Texas playing their states' rights game? All because they had the right to refuse doesn't mean it was a sensible time to invoke that right.
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Why do you even try? 99% of the people on this web site will never agree with you. Talking politics is like smashing your dick with a brick if you don't think with the group.
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