Obama-Ayers Connection

You got Alexander blocking windfarms here in E. TN.

You would be surprised at the type of people who oppose windfarms. Environmentalist, the average citizen who doesn't want to look out their window and see 50 every day. I don't know if it is valid or not but there is some study as to whether or not there are some side effects that people might be having living near these wind farms. There are even huge questions about the energy they produce even being worth the costs of operation, they don't produce much energy, and are expensive to maintain.

Ask yourself if you would want a windfarm built across the street from where you live.
 
I still don't get why the stock market fluctuating negatively affects McCain?
because people associate the current economic environment with the current administration, rightly or wrongly. Further exacerbating the problem, people associate McCain with the current admin. because he is a Repub, rightly or wrongly.
 
I can't speak for others but I am a conservative and after Bush's spending spree I would have most certainly seriously considered a democrat candidate if I thought for one minute he would be a more responsible spender than Bush was. I even looked into him early on hoping to see that in him. But, yet again I was disappointed and while looking into him other more troubling things came to light.

What I don't understand from you and those similar to you is that you go out of your way to find "connections" to Bush and the price of oil or any number of other conspiracies out there with no evidence what so ever. Yet in this case with Obama there is documented evidence of him being involved with people that would pretty much end any other candidates presidential ambitions yet you choose to completely ignore it or believe it to be untrue!


KB, imagine if mccain was friends eric rudolph, the abortion clinic bomber. can you imagine the stories against mccain? it would be in the new 24hrs a day.
the fact is, obama is friends with a lot of fringe, leftist people.

you cannot tell me that he hasn't been influenced by these people. if you don't believe he's been influence, then we deserve him as president.
 
I have not been following the wind farms in East TN issue, however, is Alexander trying to block it? My guess, and I am completely ignorant on this issue, is that Alexander is trying to keep government funds out of the project.

The wind sucks in East Tennessee anyway... I have been doing my research and East Tennessee doesnt have the wind necessary for a worthwhile project.

These turbines arent cheap and you just dont stick them anywhere
 
The Bomber as School Reformer by Sol Stern, City Journal 6 October 2008

Calling Bill Ayers a school reformer is a bit like calling Joseph Stalin an agricultural reformer. (If you find the metaphor strained, consider that Walter Duranty, the infamous New York Times reporter covering the Soviet Union in the 1930s, did, in fact, depict Stalin as a great land reformer who created happy, productive collective farms.) For instance, at a November 2006 education forum in Caracas, Venezuela, with President Hugo Chávez at his side, Ayers proclaimed his support for “the profound educational reforms under way here in Venezuela under the leadership of President Chávez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution. . . . I look forward to seeing how you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and deeply humane.” Ayers concluded his speech by declaring that “Venezuela is poised to offer the world a new model of education—a humanizing and revolutionary model whose twin missions are enlightenment and liberation,” and then, as in days of old, raised his fist and chanted: “Viva Presidente Chávez! Viva la Revolucion Bolivariana! Hasta la Victoria Siempre!”
 
Is Ayres on the ticket?

Who launched Obama's political career with the help of Wright and other left wing hate America fringe groups? Do you think his true political feelings are that much different than the people he was mentored by and was close to?

If it was one or maybe two questionable affiliations I might tend to agree with you TennNC but when most of the people you associated with are fringe lunatics there is most likely some truth to the claims.
 
Who launched Obama's political career with the help of Wright and other left wing hate America fringe groups? Do you think his true political feelings are that much different than the people he was mentored by and was close to?

If it was one or maybe two questionable affiliations I might tend to agree with you TennNC but when most of the people you associated with are fringe lunatics there is most likely some truth to the claims.

really? do we really need to go here?

kb, you're better than this. if you think enough people are going to buy the "guilt by association" approach, then here are a few obstacles for mccain:

McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam

The McCain/Hagee story picks up steam - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five - News - Phoenix New Timespage 1 - Phoenix New Times

if you really have obama conspiracy theories based on ayres or wright (which I don't think you do), then that's just unfortunate. I don't have them for mccain based on his relationships with keating, hagee, parsley, or george w. bush.

stick to the issues. stick to why you think mccain should be president. stick to why he's the right leader right now. there are plenty of good arguments to make there.
 
really? do we really need to go here?

kb, you're better than this. if you think enough people are going to buy the "guilt by association" approach, then here are a few obstacles for mccain:

McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam

The McCain/Hagee story picks up steam - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five - News - Phoenix New Timespage 1 - Phoenix New Times

if you really have obama conspiracy theories based on ayres or wright (which I don't think you do), then that's just unfortunate. I don't have them for mccain based on his relationships with keating, hagee, parsley, or george w. bush.

stick to the issues. stick to why you think mccain should be president. stick to why he's the right leader right now. there are plenty of good arguments to make there.

I really don't think there are here. We are in a lesser of two evils situation here. I don't really care for McCain today (four years ago I liked him).

We have two choices. McCain and Obama. Neither one of them has shown the correct leadership in our current economic situation. The list goes on why I really like neither guy. I just happen to dislike McCain less because I at least know what to expect.

Obama has made poor choices in launching his political career, there is no denying that. At least I know what to expect with McCain.
 
really? do we really need to go here?

kb, you're better than this. if you think enough people are going to buy the "guilt by association" approach, then here are a few obstacles for mccain:

McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam

The McCain/Hagee story picks up steam - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five - News - Phoenix New Timespage 1 - Phoenix New Times

if you really have obama conspiracy theories based on ayres or wright (which I don't think you do), then that's just unfortunate. I don't have them for mccain based on his relationships with keating, hagee, parsley, or george w. bush.

stick to the issues. stick to why you think mccain should be president. stick to why he's the right leader right now. there are plenty of good arguments to make there.

did not a judge exonerate mccain from his part?
 
Not to call Palin a terrorist by any stretch of the imagination, but I think one should look to her ties to the Alaskan Secessionists as much as Obama's ties to Ayers. I think neither are substantial issues, but if you make something of Obama Ayers, it's downright hypocritical to turn a blind eye to Palin's dealings with the AIP. Here's a video:

Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists (NEW VIDEO) - The Jed Report
 
Not to call Palin a terrorist by any stretch of the imagination, but I think one should look to her ties to the Alaskan Secessionists as much as Obama's ties to Ayers. I think neither are substantial issues, but if you make something of Obama Ayers, it's downright hypocritical to turn a blind eye to Palin's dealings with the AIP. Here's a video:

Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists (NEW VIDEO) - The Jed Report

Secession sounds like a good idea........ screw McCain and Obama!
 
really? do we really need to go here?

kb, you're better than this. if you think enough people are going to buy the "guilt by association" approach, then here are a few obstacles for mccain:

McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam

The McCain/Hagee story picks up steam - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five - News - Phoenix New Timespage 1 - Phoenix New Times

if you really have obama conspiracy theories based on ayres or wright (which I don't think you do), then that's just unfortunate. I don't have them for mccain based on his relationships with keating, hagee, parsley, or george w. bush.

stick to the issues. stick to why you think mccain should be president. stick to why he's the right leader right now. there are plenty of good arguments to make there.

Why does anyone have a problem with an association with two of the top Christian leaders? Have we become that anti-religiuous?
 
OE there are no examples here. Is the real problem that these men preach personal responsiblilty and expect a "sold out" life style?

If you truly want me to post 15,000 words of stuff I will be happy to, or I can pm you.

Personal responsibilty????????? :blink:

These men are pieces of trash!

:hi:
 

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