Obama Breaks Spending Record

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HendersonVol said:
It doesn't change the fact that the article is meaningless. Spending attributed to a President only is a silly thing to measure.
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Shovig this bs stimulus disaster, pending fed healthcare, union strengthening, handing an auto company to the unions at the expense of lenders and fixing pay at financial institutions can all be laid at the feet of our chief financial clown.

The article was garbage, but it's getting at the stimulus package via debt spending which scares the crap out of the people funding our debt. It's right.
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BigPapaVol said:
Shovig this bs stimulus disaster, pending fed healthcare, union strengthening, handing an auto company to the unions at the expense of lenders and fixing pay at financial institutions can all be laid at the feet of our chief financial clown.

The article was garbage, but it's getting at the stimulus package via debt spending which scares the crap out of the people funding our debt. It's right.
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This is no doubt true, but the previous regime's financial policies were no better.
 
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HendersonVol said:
It doesn't change the fact that the article is meaningless. Spending attributed to a President only is a silly thing to measure.
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i think you ignoring the fact that the stimilus bill was essentially written by the obama administration and paid back all his buddies. normally i'd agree with you, but this time your boy is to blame.
 
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HendersonVol said:
This is no doubt true, but the previous regime's financial policies were no better.
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This is approaching the ridiculous argument of our lost basketball fans who prop up Pearl, despite glaring coaching holes, because he's better than his borderline idiotic predecessor.
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HendersonVol said:
If spending was down significantly, Fox would have certainly never written this article and MSNBC would have given Bush no partial credit. I'm just saying it would be more credible if the facts were represented better. I'd actually like to see a breakdown of how much of the spending was planned by Bush and Obama. They don't care about reporting facts. They are just pushing the agenda.
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The spending was done by a heavily democrat congress. Bush didn't have much say in the agenda that was pushed during his last year, spending included.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
This is approaching the ridiculous argument of our lost basketball fans who prop up Pearl, despite glaring coaching holes, because he's better than his borderline idiotic predecessor.
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I am not propping anyone up. We have a ton of bad options. I just simply said the article is biased crap.
 
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HendersonVol said:
I am not propping anyone up. We have a ton of bad options. I just simply said the article is biased crap.
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Fair enough.

How's this: Obama is an economic idiot, regardless of anything his predecessor might have done?
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droski said:
what in particular about mccain was more evil than obama?
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It was less about Mccain and more about republican party leadership. I know Mccain has the military experience and all, but I wasn't sold at all on international relations.
 
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HendersonVol said:
It was less about Mccain and more about republican party leadership. I know Mccain has the military experience and all, but I wasn't sold at all on international relations.
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But you were sold on Obama's? Based upon...?
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#44
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BigPapaVol said:
Fair enough.

How's this: Obama is an economic idiot, regardless of anything his predecessor might have done?
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I never said otherwise. Placing the blame for spending on a President is breaking the issue down to it's very basic core. It does not represent reality in any way.
 
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HendersonVol said:
It was less about Mccain and more about republican party leadership. I know Mccain has the military experience and all, but I wasn't sold at all on international relations.
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i see and you liked what exactly about obama's zero history in internatioal relations?
 
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KB5252 said:
out of curiosity, why did you vote for him?
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In short, I was incredibly scared of where we were going with international policy of smash and conquer. I felt like Republican party leadership screwed up 2 wars and left us incredibly vulnerable at home and abroad. International opinion of us changed drastically in the past few years and in a global economy that's dangerous.

I watched 8 years of one kind of screwing up, and was willing to give the other guys their shot to screw up.
 
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HendersonVol said:
In short, I was incredibly scared of where we were going with international policy of smash and conquer. I felt like Republican party leadership screwed up 2 wars and left us incredibly vulnerable at home and abroad. International opinion of us changed drastically in the past few years and in a global economy that's dangerous.

I watched 8 years of one kind of screwing up, and was willing to give the other guys their shot to screw up.
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why do we give a crap about internatioal opinion of our policies? please explain specifically how this effects the united states.
 
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droski said:
why do we give a crap about internatioal opinion of our policies? please explain specifically how this effects the united states.
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I'd say it's pretty important to have international backing if you're going to start wars that you can't possibly win. Like I said, I'm not a vehement supporter of any kind. If there was a true fiscal conservative on the ballot, I would have voted for them.
 
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HendersonVol said:
In short, I was incredibly scared of where we were going with international policy of smash and conquer. I felt like Republican party leadership screwed up 2 wars and left us incredibly vulnerable at home and abroad. International opinion of us changed drastically in the past few years and in a global economy that's dangerous.

I watched 8 years of one kind of screwing up, and was willing to give the other guys their shot to screw up.
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Ask and ye shall receive.

What about voting for the best man or woman for the job? I will not put words into your mouth but it sounds to me like no republican was going to get your vote. You, like many others were caught up in the Obama hype and fell for the bumper sticker sales pitch.....after all, besides no more Bush it was all Obama had to sell to the public. In essence this is just a much longer way of saying what you said above in bold.
 
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