Obama Breaks Spending Record

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HendersonVol said:
If we economically don't lead the world anymore, then yes. It probably wouldn't come as a result of a war, but there are several ways to attack us without declaring war. We are very powerful at this point and have enough economic power to avoid being attacked. This won't always be the case. Wasting money, time, and lives on undue wars is a quick way to end this.
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please elaborate on the bolded portion.
 
#102
#102
HendersonVol said:
If we economically don't lead the world anymore, then yes. It probably wouldn't come as a result of a war, but there are several ways to attack us without declaring war. We are very powerful at this point and have enough economic power to avoid being attacked. This won't always be the case. Wasting money, time, and lives on undue wars is a quick way to end this.
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bite my tounge....bite my tongue :pinch:
 
#103
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T-TownVol said:
That is not the point that you so boldly stated.
BHO is doing every thing he can to turn the entire world against the effort so he can pull us out and he be hailed as the hero.
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If you're talking about Iraq, then I agree with what he's doing. Get out while we can. We never should have been there. I doubt you're talking about Afghanistan.

for the love of god. you do know public education is up to the states right?
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Don't oversimplify things to try and make me look stupid. You can do a lot to improve education by throwing money at it. Note that I didn't say you could fix it by throwing money at it, but that you can improve it. If my taxes went up a little and that money actually went towards education, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

right now the socialists in this world love our president and last time i checked we havent' gotten our "the rest of the country likes our presdeint" check (or any tangible benefit for that matter) in the mail like obama promised.
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I like to think of that check as not being attacked. So far so good. If that doesn't last, I was wrong.
 
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HendersonVol said:
If you're talking about Iraq, then I agree with what he's doing. Get out while we can. We never should have been there. I doubt you're talking about Afghanistan.



Don't oversimplify things to try and make me look stupid. You can do a lot to improve education by throwing money at it. Note that I didn't say you could fix it by throwing money at it, but that you can improve it. If my taxes went up a little and that money actually went towards education, I wouldn't have a problem with that.



I like to think of that check as not being attacked. So far so good. If that doesn't last. I was wrong.
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Money is not the problem with education, politicians have thrown money at the problem for as long as I can remember and it never gets any better. So to say just put more money towards education is simply the wrong way to attack it.
 
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HendersonVol said:
For one, finance the extremists and people who will do it.
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wait the people financing the extremists ALREADY HATE US. unless you think people in france are going to start giving money to al queda.

HendersonVol said:
IDon't oversimplify things to try and make me look stupid. You can do a lot to improve education by throwing money at it. Note that I didn't say you could fix it by throwing money at it, but that you can improve it. If my taxes went up a little and that money actually went towards education, I wouldn't have a problem with that. .
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then please go vote a socialist as the governor of your state rather than president of this country. do you really think a significant % of the stimilus bill went to education?
 
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droski said:
wait the people financing the extremists ALREADY HATE US. unless you think people in france are going to start giving money to al queda.



then please go vote a socialist as the governor of your state rather than president of this country.
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This is what I'm saying. What if we piss off the people that like us enough to start financing terrorists?

My state screwed up education with the best of them. I'd like the federal government to step in and give them a little guidance (and cash) if they were capable. And no, I don't think a significant portion of the stimulus went to education. Never said that.
 
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HendersonVol said:
This is what I'm saying. What if we piss off the people that like us enough to start financing terrorists?

My state screwed up education with the best of them. I'd like the federal government to step in and give them a little guidance (and cash) if they were capable.[/QUOTE]

Brilliant!
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#109
#109
HendersonVol said:
If you're talking about Iraq, then I agree with what he's doing. Get out while we can. We never should have been there. I doubt you're talking about Afghanistan.



Don't oversimplify things to try and make me look stupid. You can do a lot to improve education by throwing money at it. Note that I didn't say you could fix it by throwing money at it, but that you can improve it. If my taxes went up a little and that money actually went towards education, I wouldn't have a problem with that.



I like to think of that check as not being attacked. So far so good. If that doesn't last, I was wrong.
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1. I don't think you need any help with that.
2. You have been cashing that check for eight years but have distain for the POTUS that wrote it? See statement #1.
 
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KentheOrange said:
1. I don't think you need any help with that.
2. You have been cashing that check for eight years but have distain for the POTUS that wrote it? See statement #1.
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See, I haven't called anyone in here stupid. That's just unnecessary. I'm fairly intelligent and we probably don't disagree nearly as much as you think.

I have disdain for the POTUS who cost us American lives in Iraq with no clear plan.
 
#111
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HendersonVol said:
You're right. Our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan were clearly successful.

Is it better to finance a war with debt or finance ridiculous stimulus with debt?
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Thats easy. War!

We are killing people that want to, and have killed Americans in the past, and continue to do so even today.

You won't need that great "government run", "socialized" health care, if your dead.
 
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#112
BeecherVol said:
Thats easy. War!

We are killing people that want to, and have killed Americans in the past, and continue to do so even today.

You won't need that great "government run", "socialized" health care, if your dead.
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I feel differently about just randomly killing people.
 
#114
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HendersonVol said:
I wasn't wrong about Obama. Anyone that knew what was going on knew he was going to spend money on "social" issues. That's his MO. If he improves the education in this country, I think the wasted spending might be worth it (but that's another issue). There were several reasons I voted for Obama. One of them wasn't because I thought he would do everything right.
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We already spend great amounts of money on education and we get a poor return for that money. I fail to see how throwing more money at education and other "social" issues will improve anything. Education will not improve in this country until there is a higher value placed upon it by the children and parents who receive it. One of the best ways to make sure this never happens is by expanding social and entitlement programs that reward bad behavior and poor work ethic.
 
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#115
OK so let me get this straight. you voted for obama because:

a) you are worried mccain would have angered our allies in france and other countries enough that they would start funding terrorists to attack the US

b) you support increased spending for education despite the fact that obama has almost no control over education spending or education in general

c) you didn't like george bush's wasteful spending, yet you were well aware obama was a socialist before voting for him.
 
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#116
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You need to learn the difference between looking stupid and being stupid.

The plan was clear. The problem was not knowing what the Iraq people would do after the threat of immediate death, or rape then death was removed as punishment for Saddam's version of disobedience coupled with the minority suddenly losing power.
 
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droski said:
OK so let me get this straight. you voted for obama because:

a) you are worried mccain would have angered our allies in france and other countries enough that they would start funding terrorists to attack the US

b) you support increased spending for education despite the fact that obama has almost no control over education spending or education in general

c) you didn't like george bush's wasteful spending
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A.) I never mentioned France, but yes, I was worried Mccain would stay the course and anger allies.

B.) I do support federal spending to the states if it was actually used to improve education. Odds are that money for this would not get spent on education.

C.) I don't like Bush and Obama's wasteful spending.
 
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KentheOrange said:
You need to learn the difference between looking stupid and being stupid.

The plan was clear. The problem was not knowing what the Iraq people would do after the threat of immediate death, or rape then death was removed as punishment for Saddam's version of disobedience coupled with the minority suddenly losing power.
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An actual plan includes taking into account problems with people that have and always will hate each other.
 
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