Obama/Clinton state dept designates Israel as terrorist sponsor.

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nbakerld said:
But people are paying these loans back so it has to help somebody. In real estate with hard money the juice may be very high (60% was usually the min.), and it can still be very beneficial to the borrower. APR in and of itself doesn't determine the value of a loan.

We are talking about very small loans. Anywhere from $50 to $1000 (as I recall the average being about $200). So say this same vendor (bringing in a TR of $.90/day) gets that $100 loan so she pays $150 in a year. Since she brings in $.90/day, and no longer pays equipment rent, she can bring in $280/year (assuming a 6-day work week). At the end of year she can pay off the $150 and still triple her take-home income. Even if the loan is for $150 and she has to pay off $225, she still comes out better off in that first year, and then the rest of her life is gravy.
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$50 - 1000 is not a small loan for these individuals.

Since you appreciate Yunus's work, I would recommend looking up what he has said in the past two years re: micro-finance. It is not working anywhere near what you think.
 
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therealUT said:
$50 - 1000 is not a small loan for these individuals.

Since you appreciate Yunus's work, I would recommend looking up what he has said in the past two years re: micro-finance. It is not working anywhere near what you think.
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Do you have a link? I googled re: micro-finance and I'm coming up with stuff like this, which is merely telling me all the reasons why it's so expensive to run these MFI's, thus the high interest rates.

Re: Microfinance institutions' high lending rates
 
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nbakerld said:
Do you have a link? I googled re: micro-finance and I'm coming up with stuff like this, which is merely telling me all the reasons why it's so expensive to run these MFI's, thus the high interest rates.

Re: Microfinance institutions' high lending rates
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Do you have access to a university library site, where you can search international periodicals and journals?

If so, search through the Deccan Chronicle archives for Yunus.
 
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#30
So does Israel knowingly harbor terrorists or not? Simple question That doesn't need a 2000 word answer.
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pl3 said:
So does Israel knowingly harbor terrorists or not? Simple question That doesn't need a 2000 word answer.
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Israel certainly has a military that consistently shows a propensity to ignore civilian considerations when attacking.
 
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Jewbaccah said:
Or they have an enemy that uses Civilians as shields...
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Wonder where they learned that trick from? Probably from the Israeli's in 1947...???

The Israeli's used every "terrorist" trick in the book to gain the upper hand prior to the expiration of the British Mandate in Palestine. Then, once they could legally and legitimately have a military, they complained about those same tricks being used against them.

I have very little sympathy for the "plight" of the Israelis.
 
#35
#35
There is no plight they are doing fine. Their economy is great. You on the other hand have been brain washed and are on your way to becoming a terrorist, congrats.
 
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Jewbaccah said:
There is no plight they are doing fine. Their economy is great. You on the other hand have been brain washed and are on your way to becoming a terrorist, congrats.
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Please, don't stop there. I am very interested in what you have to say about my future.
 
#40
#40
Jewbaccah said:
I am not sure depends on what your cell leader thinks is best.
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It is quite teliing that you think any individual who does not show sympathy to Israel is a terrorist and/or a terrorist supporter. Three thousand yeas of history have shown that Jews in Israel are as ruthless and violent a people as any over the same epoch. The fact that the thre major Jewish holidays are celebrations of brutal military conquests does little to demonstrate that these people are not bloodthirsty warmongers.

Israelis feel as though they have some divine birthright to Jerusalem; I, however, pay no homage to Yahweh and, therefore, see no compelling reason as to why the world should grant Israel land and/or concessions.

Two generations of Jews have now displaced a nomadic people who traversed that land for thousands of years; the West, in its guilt over the Holocaust, has conceded this territory for no logical reason.

If these Jews were concerned about safety, they would move to Yonkers; however, they are concerned with rebuilding the Temple to worship the bloodthirsty god of the Old Testament. In doing so, they have fought, tooth and nail, against a Palestinian State, one that could use conventiona military means to fight for their objectives as opposed to guerilla warfare.

Israel wants to have its cae an eat it too; it wants to be able to maintain the current imbalance of powe, and cry out to the internationl community every time it is attacked through non-conventional warfare.

I, for one, do not give a damn for their "plight". Never have; never will.
 
#41
#41
What are you even talking about? Not sure you are all there. Do you need help? Can we send someone? Don't hurt Americans therealUT...just stay calm.
 
#42
#42
Jewbaccah said:
What are you even talking about? Not sure you are all there. Do you need help? Can we send someone? Don't hurt Americans therealUT...just stay calm.
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Another great reply. If you have no argument, feel free to refer to blogs and silly pictures, as you and OJ are simply GS lights.
 
#43
#43
therealUT said:
It is quite teliing that you think any individual who does not show sympathy to Israel is a terrorist and/or a terrorist supporter. Three thousand yeas of history have shown that Jews in Israel are as ruthless and violent a people as any over the same epoch. The fact that the thre major Jewish holidays are celebrations of brutal military conquests does little to demonstrate that these people are not bloodthirsty warmongers.

Israelis feel as though they have some divine birthright to Jerusalem; I, however, pay no homage to Yahweh and, therefore, see no compelling reason as to why the world should grant Israel land and/or concessions.

Two generations of Jews have now displaced a nomadic people who traversed that land for thousands of years; the West, in its guilt over the Holocaust, has conceded this territory for no logical reason.

If these Jews were concerned about safety, they would move to Yonkers; however, they are concerned with rebuilding the Temple to worship the bloodthirsty god of the Old Testament. In doing so, they have fought, tooth and nail, against a Palestinian State, one that could use conventiona military means to fight for their objectives as opposed to guerilla warfare.

Israel wants to have its cae an eat it too; it wants to be able to maintain the current imbalance of powe, and cry out to the internationl community every time it is attacked through non-conventional warfare.

I, for one, do not give a damn for their "plight". Never have; never will.
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You better bury those thoughts if you ever want to get into politics. It's the kiss of death.
 
#45
#45
Jewbaccah said:
There is no plight they are doing fine. Their economy is great. You on the other hand have been brain washed and are on your way to becoming a terrorist, congrats.
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Didn't see that one coming. I'd say Americans are much more likely to be "brainwashed" to take up the cause for Israel.
 
#46
#46
Truth. That is certainly the prevailing wind. Not even passing judgement on whether that is for better or worse...just fact.
 
#47
#47
BoseefusTheVol said:
You better bury those thoughts if you ever want to get into politics. It's the kiss of death.
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It has to stop sometime, though. I have no problem with Israel, but I'm tired of them getting special treatment and consideration for reasons tied to religion and events occurring thousands of years ago.

Palestinians are genetic descendants of the Hebrews too.
 
#48
#48
therealUT said:
It is quite teliing that you think any individual who does not show sympathy to Israel is a terrorist and/or a terrorist supporter. Three thousand yeas of history have shown that Jews in Israel are as ruthless and violent a people as any over the same epoch. The fact that the thre major Jewish holidays are celebrations of brutal military conquests does little to demonstrate that these people are not bloodthirsty warmongers.

Israelis feel as though they have some divine birthright to Jerusalem; I, however, pay no homage to Yahweh and, therefore, see no compelling reason as to why the world should grant Israel land and/or concessions.

Two generations of Jews have now displaced a nomadic people who traversed that land for thousands of years; the West, in its guilt over the Holocaust, has conceded this territory for no logical reason.

If these Jews were concerned about safety, they would move to Yonkers; however, they are concerned with rebuilding the Temple to worship the bloodthirsty god of the Old Testament. In doing so, they have fought, tooth and nail, against a Palestinian State, one that could use conventiona military means to fight for their objectives as opposed to guerilla warfare.

Israel wants to have its cae an eat it too; it wants to be able to maintain the current imbalance of powe, and cry out to the internationl community every time it is attacked through non-conventional warfare.

I, for one, do not give a damn for their "plight". Never have; never will.
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Well said, sir.
 
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#50
Especially shocking considering he spent most of his adult life fighting terrorists.
 
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