Obama Less Popular Than Bush

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#76
FDR's high ratings have nothing to do with the New Deal and everything to do with World War II. Is Obama going to get the US involved in another world war just so Cadillac can produce Sherman tanks?
 
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#77
BigPapaVol said:
Anybody seen the Nixon tributes? Imagine the Clinton stuff.
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We've had much worse Presidents, both good Presidents who made 1 serious mistake as President that tarnished their reputation forever.
 
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oklavol said:
13 different historical rankings on this page, every one of them have FDR in the top 3, and most in the top 1 or 2:

Historical rankings of United States Presidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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rankings from a slew of academics, who are nearly uniformly liberal or worse, means little to me. Additionally, rankings hardly signify uniformity. Those willing to take in the modern age and the disastrous effects of his welfare society, who would typically blast the govt as a solution, probably place FDR well down the list.
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BigPapaVol said:
rankings from a slew of academics, who are nearly uniformly liberal or worse, means little to me. Additionally, rankings hardly signify uniformity. Those willing to take in the modern age and the disastrous effects of his welfare society, who would typically blast the govt as a solution, probably place FDR well down the list.
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Who do you want rankings from? Delegates to the Republican National Convention?
 
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oklavol said:
We've had much worse Presidents, both good Presidents who made 1 serious mistake as President that tarnished their reputation forever.
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I'm not saying there haven't been worse. I guess all have had their moments and all have had their foibles. Few faced such weighty circumstances as did those guys that top the list. That's the greatest determinant of historical standing, rather than some mythical leadership potion.
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MG1968 said:
then prove me wrong. don't pull a truefan and tell me I'm not smart enough nor qualified to judge history. Show me where I'm wrong and that Southern democrats in the period after WWII weren't a bunch of racist bastards.
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If you would do your own leg work you would find out there isn't reputable material out there to support that idea.
 
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oklavol said:
I'm suppose to believe you don't know that Grant is on the 50 dollar bill because he led the North to victory in the Civil War?
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Which he did before becoming President, if I'm not mistaken. As President he did nothing even remotely deserving enshrinement on our money. His administration was as scandal-ridden as any we've witnessed. Research the history of our paper money and you'll find a several not-so-great Presidents and non-Presidents on our money. That titan of democracy Grover Cleveland used to be on our $1000 bill when we still made them. We're making dollar coins now with every President's face on them. Being well thought-of by whomever makes the decision does the most to determine whether or not you make the cut.
 
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Chemvol said:
Which he did before becoming President, if I'm not mistaken. As President he did nothing even remotely deserving enshrinement on our money. His administration was as scandal-ridden as any we've witnessed. Research the history of our paper money and you'll find a several not-so-great Presidents and non-Presidents on our money. That titan of democracy Grover Cleveland used to be on our $1000 bill when we still made them. We're making dollar coins now with every President's face on them. Being well thought-of by whomever makes the decision does the most to determine whether or not you make the cut.
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I'm amazed at the circle people spin because they don't want to admit their argument doesn't hold water.
 
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oklavol said:
There's only a handful of U.S. Presidents who ended up with their face on U.S. currency, FDR happens to be one of them for reason.
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Andrew Jackson is also in that "prestigious" company.

Please continue to use supporting evidence of this caliber in all your arguments. I need a good laugh every now and then.
 
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therealUT said:
Andrew Jackson is also in that "prestigious" company.

Please continue to use supporting evidence of this caliber in all your arguments. I need a good laugh every now and then.
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Jackson is one of the top 10 greatest Presidents in historical rankings:

Historical rankings of United States Presidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess you would have us believe they take the worst Presidents and put their faces on the U.S. currency :rolleyes:

Aren't your the same guy who was explaining why Lincoln and Washington weren't very good Presidents? Enough said.
 
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oklavol said:
If you would do your own leg work you would find out there isn't reputable material out there to support that idea.
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robert byrd
al gore sr.
george wallace
orville faubus
bull connor

are some of the notables.
 
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#96
Blah Blah blah, liberals hated Bush, conservatives hate Obama, liberals wanted to move to Canada when Bush was elected, conservatives say the end is near since Obama was elected. everybody will moan and groan thats the promise of each president ...Derka Derka Derka ... sherpa shew..... Oh whats that? Jesus Christ is running for President and for my sins in 2012? Awesome but he is a card carrying memeber of the ACLU? or is it the NRA? Because Al Frankin or Rush told me one of those cards is very evil.
 
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wounded mullet said:
Blah Blah blah, liberals hated Bush, conservatives hate Obama, liberals wanted to move to Canada when Bush was elected, conservatives say the end is near since Obama was elected. everybody will moan and groan thats the promise of each president ...Derka Derka Derka ... sherpa shew..... Oh whats that? Jesus Christ is running for President and for my sins in 2012? Awesome but he is a card carrying memeber of the ACLU? or is it the NRA? Because Al Frankin or Rush told me one of those cards is very evil.
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Both of those guys represent awful fiscal presidents, but only one was awful enough to run up a two trillion dollar pro forms deficit (meaning it's going to be higher in reality).
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oklavol said:
That is complete BS. Bush left the white house with the lowest Approval Rating in history. No one cares at this point that he had the highest approval rating history after 9/11. We all know what a failure he was as President.
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It clearly states AFTER FIRST MONTH IN OFFICE.
 
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#100
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oklavol said:
I'm suppose to believe you don't know that Grant is on the 50 dollar bill because he led the North to victory in the Civil War?
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I thought we were talking about presidents.
Grant was not president when the Yanks won the war.

He is on the list as one of the WORST presidents, no?

So we have proven than not all the presidents on currency were great presidents.
 
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