Obama stimulus plan

[OrangeEmpire]

Yes.

You actually believe the s#$t you post over on the ID/evolution thread?

Right, how are the two comparable?

I never knew ID/Evolution was a freedom concern.

:dunno:

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Astounding. The very idea that every parent wants their children (and grandchildren) to have it better than they did penalized for having succeeded in doing so.

Insanity!

 

[T-TownVol]

For the love of God, you actually believe this s#$t?

What is your is mine!

 

[droski]

No, they got a really large amount.

if someone is working for the company you can transfer ownership legally over time at and at highly discounted rates (since a limited partnership is considered illiquid). they can also buy insurance policies that will pay the taxes and allow them the liquidity to keep the business or that will buy out the smaller partners. as i said. they had a really lousy estate lawyer.

 

[rjd970]

How about cutting the government?

Not a bad solution.

Inherited estates should still be taxed on principle though.

 

[truefan]

What the heck does that have to do with how much tax they should pay? What a goofy socialist idealogy that a company should pay more because they aren't offering a certain number of jobs.

It is our current situation. I didn't say they should pay more because they aren't providing jobs. I am saying they should have paid exactly the tax they were levied because of their record profits.

READ THE POST please

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Not a bad solution.

Inherited estates should still be taxed on principle though.

Why?

Because you don't have money?

Goodness, I don't other but I don't whine about it!

 

[rjd970]

Right, how are the two comparable?

I never knew ID/Evolution was a freedom concern.

:dunno:

They are comparable because we both believe stuff the other thinks is absolutely ridiculous. Calling it s#$t doesn't help.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

It is our current situation. I didn't say they should pay more because they aren't providing jobs. I am saying they should have paid exactly the tax they were levied because of their record profits.

READ THE POST please

So what is your solution?

 

[T-TownVol]

if someone is working for the company you can transfer ownership legally over time at and at highly discounted rates (since a limited partnership is considered illiquid). they can also buy insurance policies that will pay the taxes and allow them the liquidity to keep the business or that will buy out the smaller partners. as i said. they had a really lousy estate lawyer.

Sudden death of the fathers. Just because they did not have time to plan does not mean the government should get 50% of it.

 

[droski]

Astounding. The very idea that every parent wants their children (and grandchildren) to have it better than they did penalized for having succeeded in doing so.

how are they not better off in the future? you can pay for their education, you can put a down payment on a house, you just can't leave them over $3.5 mil.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

They are comparable because we both believe stuff the other thinks is absolutely ridiculous. Calling it s#$t doesn't help.

We have the freedom to believe what we want to believe. That is one of the most beautiful things about this country.

The government taking money that they have no business taking is a question of freedom. The government should not have that much power over the individual.

Find me something in government that is better than dog s$%t? Just one....

 

[rjd970]

Why?

Because you don't have money?

Goodness, I don't other but I don't whine about it!

Who's whining? I'm arguing principle.

This country is all about working hard to get ahead. If anybody should be taxed, it should be the ones that aren't doing a damn thing but still get ahead anyway.

 

[truefan]

stocks are down 107 as of right now, almost 500 points in 3 days.

if it's such a good idea, why is the stock market so scared.

Back to the original topic......the stock market was tanking long before the November election.

I suppose unemployment, lack of available credit and slow growth have nothing to do with it eitherhmy:

 

[OrangeEmpire]

how are they not better off in the future? you can pay for their education, you can put a down payment on a house, you just can't leave them over $3.5 mil.

Why?

Why do we give that much power to the government?

 

[allvol123]

In short, yes.

Your children didn't earn anything you give them, and you didn't earn anything your parents gave you.

As others have said, ridiculous. And so what did the government do to deserve any of it?

 

[droski]

Sudden death of the fathers.

that is why you have an insurance policy that pays to "buy" the company. i'm not trying to be an arse here, but i deal with these things all the time.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Who's whining? I'm arguing principle.

This country is all about working hard to get ahead. If anybody is should be taxed, it should be the ones that aren't doing a damn thing but still get ahead anyway.

Right, so we have established that inheritance = lazy good for nothing white kid playing xbox all day?

 

[droski]

Why?

Why do we give that much power to the government?

why do we give so much power to teh gov't to take 40% of our income?

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Back to the original topic......the stock market was tanking long before the November election.

I suppose unemployment, lack of available credit and slow growth have nothing to do with it eitherhmy:

It is called the FED!

 

[allvol123]

how are they not better off in the future? you can pay for their education, you can put a down payment on a house, you just can't leave them over $3.5 mil.

Nice, kind of like Obama-ism. You get to decide what is too much.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

why do we give so much power to teh gov't to take 40% of our income?

Preach sir, preach!

Why do you let this crap happen?

 

[rjd970]

Find me something in government that is better than dog s$%t? Just one....

Your job for starters.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Why do people not desire freedom!

It is beyond me!

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Your job for starters.

Horribly mismanaged.

Some pencil neck thought it was a good idea to fund half the departments budget on a gasoline tax that would last for twenty years.

Now that it is gone, for every cent that gas goes up costs the deparment 1 million dollars on the operations side!

Government = failure!