O'Donnell is such a .... !!

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N'est-ce Pas said:
The TP has good tenets if the religious idiots like Palin and this chick GTFO.
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At some point, people are going to realize that the portion of the TP that is actually focused on financial reform is tiny, tiny, tiny.

The portion that parrots that, doesn't understand it, but figures it gives them cover to push a world view based on 1953 America, is much, much, bigger.
 
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sjt18 said:
or Al Franken... or Joe Biden... or Nancy Pelosi... or Howard Dean...
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Not a witch, don't blame AIDS on taking the Bible out of schools, don't think that mice have fully functioning human brains, and don't equate masturbation with adultery.

Next?
 
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N'est-ce Pas said:
The TP has good tenets if the religious idiots like Palin and this chick GTFO.
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Nice. Keep it classy guy.

Good grief. Where do you people get off? You'd be the first to object to someone denying you a say because you aren't religious but the first to deny someone else a say because of their religion... and your biggest problem with Christians is probably their hypocrisy, right?
 
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sjt18 said:
Nice. Keep it classy guy.

Good grief. Where do you people get off? You'd be the first to object to someone denying you a say because you aren't religious but the first to deny someone else a say because of their religion... and your biggest problem with Christians is probably their hypocrisy, right?
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I don't give a damn if they worship tree branches and cattle, but I don't want to hear about it, and it has no place in political discourse.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not a witch,
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Neither is she.
don't blame AIDS on taking the Bible out of schools,
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I think she actually said that the spread of AIDS was associated with the sexual revolution... which is a valid cause-effect association.
and don't equate masturbation with adultery.

Next?
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So if she said that homosexuals should be allowed to marry then that is a valid moral pov... or that NAMBLA deserves to be heard... or that sexual promiscuity is so compulsory that 2nd graders should have graphic sex ed and learn that it is OK to touch... she would be very modern and sophisticated? But if she expresses a pov that encourages self control of thoughts and urges then she should be denigrated, right?

Matthew 5:27-29
27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


Thoughts lead to attitudes. Attitudes determine actions.

Control your thoughts... control your actions.
 
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N'est-ce Pas said:
I don't give a damn if they worship tree branches and cattle, but I don't want to hear about it, and it has no place in political discourse.
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Yes it does. It has every bit as much a place as whatever philosophical pov you derive your opinions from.

I am not talking about the imposition of religion and neither are they. I am talking about the perfectly valid and historically American act of deriving political beliefs from a worldview shaped by strongly held religious beliefs. Read the founders. Many made absolutely no bones about the fact that they believed their political views to be congruent with and subject to their orthodox Christian beliefs.
 
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sjt18 said:
I am not talking about the imposition of religion and neither are they. I am talking about the perfectly valid and historically American act of deriving political beliefs from a worldview shaped by strongly held religious beliefs. Read the founders. Many made absolutely no bones about the fact that they believed their political views to be congruent with and subject to their orthodox Christian beliefs.
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Most of the founders were demagogic deists. The BoR was influenced by English common law, which was around before the Bible made its way to the British Isles.
 
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lawgator1 said:
At some point, people are going to realize that the portion of the TP that is actually focused on financial reform is tiny, tiny, tiny.

The portion that parrots that, doesn't understand it, but figures it gives them cover to push a world view based on 1953 America, is much, much, bigger.
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Link???

N'est-ce Pas said:
I don't give a damn if they worship tree branches and cattle, but I don't want to hear about it, and it has no place in political discourse.
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Study U.S. history much?
 
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sjt18 said:
Neither is she. I think she actually said that the spread of AIDS was associated with the sexual revolution... which is a valid cause-effect association.

So if she said that homosexuals should be allowed to marry then that is a valid moral pov... or that NAMBLA deserves to be heard... or that sexual promiscuity is so compulsory that 2nd graders should have graphic sex ed and learn that it is OK to touch... she would be very modern and sophisticated? But if she expresses a pov that encourages self control of thoughts and urges then she should be denigrated, right?

Matthew 5:27-29
27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


Thoughts lead to attitudes. Attitudes determine actions.

Control your thoughts... control your actions.
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My comment about mild retardation may have been too kind.
 
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N'est-ce Pas said:
Most of the founders were demagogic deists.
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No. And I challenge you to show more than a handful were professing deists.
The BoR was influenced by English common law, which was around before the Bible made its way to the British Isles.
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No. It wasn't. The BoR among other things guarantees individual property rights, religious freedom, and expressed "negative rights" for gov't very clearly in the 10th Amendment. In many cases, the BoR's was an ANSWER to the abuses under British common law. The fundamental difference was that the Founders established the sovereignty of the individual who was entitled to inalienable rights endowed by his CREATOR. The British had long been governed under the divine right of kings. IOW's, kings were chosen by God Himself and endowed with all "rights" which could then be distributed as "privileges" to the masses as the king saw fit.

FTR, the gospel made it to the British Isles before the death of John the Apostle. The Latin version of the Bible made it there before the Roman Empire fell. Some of the earliest "vulgar" translations were made in the British Isles.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Because her remarkable naivete and overly simplistic view of the world, bordering on reflecting mild retardation, is startlingly representative of the TP.
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Unlike your historically failed but "sophisticated" view of the world that doesn't border on retardation at all... it is retardation in absolute full bloom. The refusal to learn from history is in fact retarded.
 
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personally I view statements like this

"We have been guided by a Republican administration who believes in this simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it and they have an antipathy towards the means of redistributing wealth"

by current members of Congress as more important to discuss than "masturbation is adultery"
 
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BTW, what does any of the mud being slung at O'Donnell have to do with the countries immediate problems? Could it be just one more proof that the left wants to talk about anything but the actual issues and ideas?
 
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sjt18 said:
BTW, what does any of the mud being slung at O'Donnell have to do with the countries immediate problems? Could it be just one more proof that the left wants to talk about anything but the actual issues and ideas?
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Umm... I hate to tell you this, but the politicians on the right are no better.
 
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sjt18 said:
BTW, what does any of the mud being slung at O'Donnell have to do with the countries immediate problems? Could it be just one more proof that the left wants to talk about anything but the actual issues and ideas?
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So since the country is in a cluster, we need to elect this f***ing retard? The mindless defense you people come up with for this woman is staggering.
 
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The mud is the entertainment value of politics.

What have they done, and what are they gonna try to do is the point.
 
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#96
She clearly got the original story mixed up - it was a cloning conversation and the actual story was human brain cells being injected into mice to test interactions and responses. She mangled the story big time. But if I had a nickle for every stupid or mangled comment made by a politician I'd be a millionaire. And if I limited it to only Dem politicians I'd still be a millionaire.

The funny thing is the obsession of people like Maher and even LG. He can't vote for her. He says she's insignificant. But yet there's this desire to spend time in his day to read quotes and then repost them on a message board. It's like they hate them but yet deep down really desire them. It's like the person who says "This food is disgusting! Try it!" There is repulsion but yet a desire to dwell. Freud might have a field day with LG. The focus seems to be on Palin and O'Donnell.
 
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Seems to me that Mr. Independent would love to have her running as the R Candidate.

These posts are strikingly familiar to the ones about Palin. Seems like he spends a lot of time on people who in his opinion have no chance.
 
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sjt18 said:
BTW, what does any of the mud being slung at O'Donnell have to do with the countries immediate problems? Could it be just one more proof that the left wants to talk about anything but the actual issues and ideas?
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Glass houses, dude.

The "right" loves to accuse Obama of being a muslim, having been born in Kenya, and setting out to destroy America.

Idiocy and politicians of any party go together like ham and eggs.
 
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