Official Global Warming thread (merged)

[theutvolunteers]

The global leader meltdowns over this are great.

"Deeply disappointed"
"We'llKeep working to save our earth"

 

[Biopsyman]

Obama already complaining... no power lol

 

[carlos86]

I'm just laughing at the people who are saying Elon Musk is an idiot. He has a degree in Physics and Ph.D. in applied physics & materials science. Yea I guess he's an idiot.

 

[luthervol]

What a drama queen, so trump doesn't want America to be penalized for passing some treaty based on BS data from people who have a marxist agenda. Are you an American? Or world citizen?

Is it really that simple for Trump supporters? I guess it must be.

I'm a Bufordian.
No I'm a Hall Countyian.
No, on second thought I'm a metro Atlantan.
Scratch that, make me a northwest Georgian.
What the heck, I'll be a Georgian.
Really though, I'm truly a southerner.
I guess you should make that a southeasterner.
Okay, I'm an American.
Maybe a North American.
I'll even be a western hemisphereian or a northern hemispherian.
World citizen? ...never, are you kidding?

 

[golfballs]

**** yo treaty n****!

 

[golfballs]

I'm just laughing at the people who are saying Elon Musk is an idiot. He has a degree in Physics and Ph.D. in applied physics & materials science. Yea I guess he's an idiot.

He's a mountebank

 

[Grand Vol]

He's a mountebank

He's Canadian Law Enforcement?

 

[PKT_VOL]

Best move as POTUS, so far

This worthless symbolic move is better than his SCOTUS nomination?

 

[carlos86]

So I guess SECDEF Mattis is wrong????

Secretary of Defense James Mattis has asserted that climate change is real, and a threat to American interests abroad and the Pentagon’s assets everywhere

http://www.businessinsider.com/jame...-change-as-national-security-challenge-2017-3

 

[05_never_again]

He is an easy target. However, if the Tesla line was cheaper and had a better infrastructure, he'd be making money hand over fist. But it's a win/lose situation for him. Accept subsidies to expand the line/infrastructure (possibly bring cost down in the long run) or don't accept subsidies charge full rate and slow expansion.

The real question is should taxpayers, by government decree, be forced to pay for his projects? Or any private business's projects? If the subsidies are there, Musk (or any other CEO) is going to take them; he has an obligation to his shareholders.

But is that a legitimate use of government money? Even if his company is successful, how do I benefit? By having the privilege to buy one of his cars? Isn't it a better idea to let people voluntarily invest in his company if they want to, and get some type of return on their investment other than "that guy's company got off the ground?"

The reason he has his hand out is because the market doesn't want to give it to him yet, but the government, in their infinite wisdom, wants to experiment with other people's money.

 

[golfballs]

**** yo treaty n****!

Wiping coal dust all over it

 

[Septic]

Best move as POTUS, so far

Given what he's accomplished so far, it's one of his only moves. You can call it "best" but that's like choosing between the savory smell of fresh dog turds and that of the rich aroma of fresh cat turds.

 

[golfballs]

He's Canadian Law Enforcement?

A huckster of the highest order

 

[Carl Pickens]

I'm just laughing at the people who are saying Elon Musk is an idiot. He has a degree in Physics and Ph.D. in applied physics & materials science. Yea I guess he's an idiot.

Intelligence does not mean one cannot also be ignorant

 

[golfballs]

Given what he's accomplished so far, it's one of his only moves. You can call it "best" but that's like choosing between the best smell of fresh dog turds and fresh cat turds.

Fresh smell of carbon emissions

 

[Carl Pickens]

So I guess SECDEF Mattis is wrong????

Secretary of Defense James Mattis has asserted that climate change is real, and a threat to American interests abroad and the Pentagon’s assets everywhere

http://www.businessinsider.com/jame...-change-as-national-security-challenge-2017-3

It's all conjecture at this point .... no one knows for sure

 

[Grand Vol]

The real question is should taxpayers, by government decree, be forced to pay for his projects? Or any private business's projects? If the subsidies are there, Musk (or any other CEO) is going to take them.

Is that a legitimate use of government money? Even if his company is successful, how do I benefit? By having the privilege to buy one of his cars? Isn't it a better idea to let people voluntarily invest in his company if they want to, and get some type of return on their investment other than "that guy's company got off the ground?"

The reason he has his hand out is because the market doesn't want to give it to him yet, but the government, in their infinite wisdom, wants to experiment with other people's money.

I've answered this before, but no, I don't believe in the subsidy business with our government. Paying farmers to raise or not to raise crops, tax breaks, subsidies to the fossil fuel industry (a huge WTF question) etc. A lot of his subsidy stuff is tax breaks, so it's not like the government is "handing" him other people's money. Still the principle behind it though.

Anyway, he's done far more with government subsidies than other green energy companies. Still can't support the whole concept, but where others have failed, he's managed to make some pretty interesting breakthroughs.

 

[UT_Dutchman]

Considering the earth is billions of years old 650,000 years is a tiny sample size.

That's because if you go back any further all their statistics become mute. As usual they only use a sample size that fits their agenda.

 

[Grand Vol]

A huckster of the highest order

 

[05_never_again]

I've answered this before, but no, I don't believe in the subsidy business with our government. Paying farmers to raise or not to raise crops, tax breaks, subsidies to the fossil fuel industry (a huge WTF question) etc. A lot of his subsidy stuff is tax breaks, so it's not like the government is "handing" him other people's money. Still the principle behind it though.

Anyway, he's done far more with government subsidies than other green energy companies. Still can't support the whole concept, but where others have failed, he's managed to make some pretty interesting breakthroughs.

That's fair.

 

[AirVol]

I'm just laughing at the people who are saying Elon Musk is an idiot. He has a degree in Physics and Ph.D. in applied physics & materials science. Yea I guess he's an idiot.

Yet he flys all over in his new G650 jet. Contrails man, also rockets sh!t into space. Yay, electric guru, yay.

 

[UT_Dutchman]

Wow, curveball thrown - wasn't expecting the race card
[twitter]https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/870357069089689600[/twitter]

This just gets dumber.

 

[Grand Vol]

Yet he flys all over in his new G650 jet. Contrails man, also rockets sh!t into space. Yay, electric guru, yay.

If you had his money, you'd be rocking the Gulfstream as well.

 

[UT_Dutchman]

Out: International relations, peace, negotiating trade and other agreements.

In: Protectionism, economic calamity, war.

War! C'mon gaitor bait your chicken little stance is becoming a joke.

 

[gcbvol]

I've answered this before, but no, I don't believe in the subsidy business with our government. Paying farmers to raise or not to raise crops, tax breaks, subsidies to the fossil fuel industry (a huge WTF question) etc. A lot of his subsidy stuff is tax breaks, so it's not like the government is "handing" him other people's money. Still the principle behind it though.

Anyway, he's done far more with government subsidies than other green energy companies. Still can't support the whole concept, but where others have failed, he's managed to make some pretty interesting breakthroughs.

Agreed. Fascinating how people/businesses taking advantage of tax loopholes and the like are smart, but how dare Elon Musk take advantage of a business opportunity.