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I don't see anything wrong with wanting to live there... and it's probably not even his primary residence. I would be a homebody if I lived in a place like that.

The far more pressing issue than pulling out of the Paris Agreement. Our politicians leaving office vastly more wealthy than when they were elected, and a debt of nearly 20 trillion dollars. And still, no one gives a ****.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/us/obama-buys-house-washington-kalorama.html

http://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/laura-and-george-w-bush-prairie-chapel-ranch-texas-article

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/politics/clinton-homes.html
 
“As a Christian, I believe that there is a creator in God who is much bigger than us,” Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.) told constituents last week at a town hall in Coldwater, Mich. “And I’m confident that, if there’s a real problem, he can take care of it.”

I can't believe I didn't think of this. No wonder trumps base doesn't give a rip about evidence...

It all makes sense now.
 
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The far more pressing issue than pulling out of the Paris Agreement. Our politicians leaving office vastly more wealthy than when they were elected, and a debt of nearly 20 trillion dollars. And still, no one gives a ****.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/us/obama-buys-house-washington-kalorama.html

http://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/laura-and-george-w-bush-prairie-chapel-ranch-texas-article

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/politics/clinton-homes.html

I am not a fan of Al Gore, believe it or not. A good portion of his wealth was acquired by selling his television network (Current TV) to Al Jazeera for $100 million. That is being a pure sellout.
 
I can't believe I didn't think of this. No wonder trumps base doesn't give a rip about evidence...

It all makes sense now.

I'm a Christian and find that stance extremely alarming. Nowhere in scripture is it stated that we should dump all over the earth and expect a "heavenly bailout." Absolutely ludicrous.
 
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I can't believe I didn't think of this. No wonder trumps base doesn't give a rip about evidence...

It all makes sense now.

I agree it's silly. Now, for an admittedly off-top question.

Will you do the same to equally condemn Muslims elsewhere?
 
I agree it's silly. Now, for an admittedly off-top question.

Will you do the same to equally condemn Muslims elsewhere?

Certainly, was there a muslim representative who is denying climate change because allah will handle it?

Let me at em'.

I'man equal opportunity religion basher. They're all equally silly.
 
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Certainly, was there a muslim representative who is denying climate change because allah will handle it?

Let me at em'.

I'man equal opportunity religion basher. They're all equally silly.

I left out their terrorism, treatment of women and the alphabet community. I take responsibility for that.

I know you know I meant other than the climate change stuff. This Christian dude you quoted is weird though.
 
This is good (I gave you a like)... It's what I've been asking for and I enjoy a good scientific debate on this. I just don't often get one from conservatives. I will need time to look it over when I get home - but be prepared for a strong rebuttal later. :wink2:

Np. I tried not to pull a typical volnation "You ignorant and xenophobic" retort.
 
The far more pressing issue than pulling out of the Paris Agreement. Our politicians leaving office vastly more wealthy than when they were elected, and a debt of nearly 20 trillion dollars. And still, no one gives a ****.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/us/obama-buys-house-washington-kalorama.html

http://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/laura-and-george-w-bush-prairie-chapel-ranch-texas-article

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/politics/clinton-homes.html

Why do think Obama got into politics? Dude was driving a Ford escape before being president :eek:lol:
 
I left out their terrorism, treatment of women and the alphabet community. I take responsibility for that.

I know you know I meant other than the climate change stuff. This Christian dude you quoted is weird though.

Yep, I think the murdering islamic extremists and those that are silent about it are some of the most vile people to ever to inhabit the planet. They disgust me in every imaginable way. I wish them nothing but slow, drawn out painful deaths.
 
Why do think Obama got into politics? Dude was driving a Ford escape before being president :eek:lol:

Not bad for a muslim kid from kenya.

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Did you actually read the source you quoted?

"Due to the fact that on average only between 50 and 60 volcanoes erupt each year, there is not nearly an adequate amount of volcanic activity to equal or to surpass the amount of anthropogenic sourced pollution (USGS, 2009). Even supervolcanoes, that have had only 8 eruptions within the span of millions of years, do not have enough frequency to equalize with anthropogenic source pollution (USGS, 2014)"

Yeah I read the source. We have around 150 active volcanoes on the earth and they are always venting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, erupting or not. Considering the earth is 5,000,000,000 years old and humans have only been able to influence the atmosphere in a wide scale for about 250 years, the human impact in the grand scheme of things is minimal.
 
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Yep, I think the murdering islamic extremists and those that are silent about it are some of the most vile people to ever to inhabit the planet. They disgust me in every imaginable way. I wish them nothing but slow, drawn out painful deaths.

I don't even know you right now.
 
We don't need to look at the age of the earth for climate change comparisons. Only for the time mankind has been here. And, actually, only for the time mankind has been here and the climate has been reasonably favorable for man to complete his diaspora throughout the habitable latitudes (changes in latitudes, changes in ..oh well) after the withdrawal of the ice sheets. In other words, since the end of the last Ice Age. It's called the Holocene (wholly new) Epoch and began 12,500 to 11,500 years ago, call it 12,000.

Britian's Industrial revolution began about 1750, 267 years ago, call it 250 before a lot of stacks were pumping out smoke.

That's 'only' 2.1% of the current epoch.

We absolutely can, and easily using CURRENT paleoclimatologic technique on ice cores, seabed cores, etc. (I linked this data in a current article earlier) derive an accurate temperature curve over the relatively short time of the Holocene.

One of the reasons the ice sheets retreated as they did was that the early Holocene temperatures were warmer than now. Then things cool, and warm, and cool, and the Little Ice Age happens, and we warm up again.

But at no time over the Holocene, "The Time of Comfortable Living for Mankind" if you will, has the rate of temperature increase been as great as it is now.

We have some fraction of responsibility for that. Significant?

I don't care.

We may or may not be able to reverse climate change (this warming trend) EVEN IF ALL MANKIND'S TECHNOLOGICAL FORCE was put into changing our wasteful ways. We just don't know.

What we do know is we continue to build houses as if with tissue paper and matchsticks.

We continue to build, and rebuild, and rebuild in flood plains.

We continue to pollute the earth and the oceans.

Our atmospheric green house gas pollution footprint is only a fraction of the whole.

We brag about reducing pollution in America but the vast majority (there ya go Septic-correct usage) of items we buy are made outside our borders in nations who are experiencing worse environmental fouling of their lands and air than we ever did before passing clean air and water acts.

We're sh!++ing our own nest.
 
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Hang on, lemme check.

vast

/vast

adjective

1. of very great extent or quantity; immense.
Usage: "There was a vast difference between the number of votes of Trump and Clinton"

synonyms: huge, extensive, expansive, broad, wide, sweeping, boundless, immeasurable, limitless, infinite; More

noun archaic
1. an immense space.



Yep, vast was the term I was looking for.

65,853,516 Clinton
62,984,825 Trump

When 128,838,341 votes were cast between the two (not counting third party and write-ins here-I'm sure you think Mickey Mouse won though), a difference of 2,868,691 or 2.2% IS NOT VAST.

Vast would absolutely have given HiLIARly the Electoral College win which, ...

In the REPUBLIC of the United States is how we elect our presidents, and Trump won.

Thank God.

Now, if you still insist that 2.2% is vast, there's a job for you near Orlando - in Disney World - as Mickey Mouse's sidekick- Goofy.
 
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I mean, the difference was LESS THAN 3/4 of the population of ONE of America's large cities. Vast!!!???

Piffle, keep that up an I'm sendin Luther over to your house with a 12 pack of Charmin, your gonna need it.
 
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If you really need an answer to the question you posed then you aren't paying attention. The science is settled, if you choose to ignore the facts then you are simply blinded by your hyper-partisanship.

Trump has once again decided to not be a leader, meanwhile, the rest of the world is laughing at us for electing an imbecile.

Absurd.

Science is never settled. Such a ludicrous concept would defeat the whole purpose and methodology of science. Such a concept is piss-poor pseudoscience masquerading as valid philosophy of science.
 
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Absurd.

Science is never settled. Such a ludicrous concept would defeat the whole purpose and methodology of science. Such a concept is piss-poor pseudoscience masquerading as valid philosophy of science.

At various times science settled that the earth was flat, the sun rotated around us, gold could be made from lead, morphine was an ok thing to give children for a cough, etc.
 
Absurd.

Science is never settled. Such a ludicrous concept would defeat the whole purpose and methodology of science. Such a concept is piss-poor pseudoscience masquerading as valid philosophy of science.

And that is why you have people who believe the whole climate change doom and gloom fear mongering propaganda. Funny thing is that climate science is about one of the most unreliable sciences out there. I think some people never watch weather predictions..
 

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