Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

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Wilson27 said:
Biggest problem Bammers had with Fulmer is he kicked their asses so many times. They just used that whole getting turned in thing.
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Chicken and the egg argument. He beat them because they were down much of his tenure.....and they were down at least in part because of his role in turning them in.

There is little doubt that Fulmer was the beneficiary of a significantly weakened Bama for a period of time.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Chicken and the egg argument. He beat them because they were down much of his tenure.....and they were down at least in part because of his role in turning them in.

There is little doubt that Fulmer was the beneficiary of a significantly weakened Bama for a period of time.
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Boro, what do you think of the supposed Gruden - Arky signing, I don't think it's true but i'm kinda freakin' out over here.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I wonder what would happen if Gruden went to another college team...I'm pretty sure everyone will be asking for Hart's head. I don't think Hart is that dumb to let him go anywhere else besides Tennessee for the college level.

I'd be more concerned about The Browns and Jimmy Haslam.

If good ole' Jimmy wants Gruden to the Browns and Gruden accepts, well, that's it.

BUT, I can easily see this scenario.

Haslam keeps the current HC for the Browns. Tells Gruden to go and get some college experience, new contacts, etc... and become the HC for TN. In 3 years, if the current HC at the Browns does not deliver, Gruden is basically UPSTREAMED to the Browns.
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IMO if he has future plans to coach again in the NFL, he won't come to UT. He could probaly get any NFL HC job that will be open this year. He doesn't need us to land a job in the NFL. For some reason, I'm more concerned with the Eagles potential job opening. They have one of the best rosters in the NFL. So that COULD be the opportunity he's been looking for. I sure hope me and GRU don't share this idea. Nothing would make me happier than him coming to Knoxville and hopefully, retire from coaching as a Vol (10-15 years from now).
 
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agr708 said:
Holmgren is leaving isnt he?
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Already out. That's why he won't go to Cleveland. Had the Browns retained Holmgren, then I could understand the concern of Gruden to Browns. He's not going to go to a place that just dismissed his mentor.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Bath salt/ meth induced delusions IMO.

Maybe someone in Fayetteville smoked a Jeffrey.
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Based upon the source if my info last week, I would be shocked. I guess anything is possible in these things, but......no. Not possible.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Chicken and the egg argument. He beat them because they were down much of his tenure.....and they were down at least in part because of his role in turning them in.

There is little doubt that Fulmer was the beneficiary of a significantly weakened Bama for a period of time.
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Oh yeah, it goes without saying Bama was down during that period but Fulmer even beat them the ONE year they won the SEC 99
 
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dsimplified said:
IMO if he has future plans to coach again in the NFL, he won't come to UT. He could probaly get any NFL HC job that will be open this year. He doesn't need us to land a job in the NFL. For some reason, I'm more concerned with the Eagles potential job opening. They have one of the best rosters in the NFL. So that COULD be the opportunity he's been looking for. I sure hope me and GRU don't share this idea. Nothing would make me happier than him coming to Knoxville and hopefully, retire from coaching as a Vol (10-15 years from now).
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That might all be true, but with all that time away from the sidelines, who knows what his thoughts have been on the topic. There are merits both ways, but a good coach can entrench himself for a longer duration in college, than in the NFL. It is so hard to stay on top. Even Bellicheck can't do it.
 
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Whats up active Grudenites and lurking borderline converts!!

So to answer some questions in one reply from posts back through the thread:

32, 3 boys, 6,2, and 5mo. 6' 325#

For all the worriers...

No.

No.

No.

Hell no.

Stay calm, keep the faith, and I'll be over here watering the gwass...

So funny...I was actually chanting hire Gruden before they hired Lame Kitten. How many years have passed and now its near reality...
 
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Wilson27 said:
Oh yeah, it goes without saying Bama was down during that period but Fulmer even beat them the ONE year they won the SEC 99
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I didn't diminish his accomplishment by pointing that out. He did what good coaches do and won. But it can't be overlooked that the streak against them may not have been so long without the issues.
 
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Hyams says Dooley is gone if we lose to Bama and South Carolina....way to put yourself out ther as usual Jimmy
 
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I'm not sold on Gruden being interested in UT, but come on guys. Why in the hell would Gruden go to Arkansas over UT??? I think you can relax on that one.
 
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