Official Jon Gruden Thread VIII

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VFL44 said:
From BabyVol

Here's what i heard late last night. I'm hearing TN is talking with several candidates due to the amount of money it's going to cost to bring in Gruden. TN wants to know who the other candidates plan to bring on staff with them if they come. Then they will weigh out which direction to go. The story I got was Gruden has agreed in principle to 8 years around 51 million. The hang up is how much it would cost to bring in the assistants he wants. As everyone has heard he likes Raheem Morris for DC. He wants Chad Morris as OC. The cost would be 1.5 million for each. Here's a big hang up....supposedly Morris just signed a deal with Clemson that has a steep penalty to buyout. Would cost us another couple of million. We might go back to Gruden and try to get him to go with someone else or he might be adamant....no idea. Supposedly Gruden and he are tight. Again....i just bring what I hear so take it or leave it.

My info this time is coming from money so it very well could be. My contacts inside athletic department have been mostly silent this go around. The only thing I've gotten from them is that Gruden was definitely our #1 target. I don't think much will be leaked from Hart this time
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Seems reasonable to me. They need to do their due diligence and get comparables.

I bet this info is delayed though and I suspect the decision was made based on what all the solids here are saying.
 
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1world1love said:
Yea. I remember now. You were also providing info in the previous thread right?
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Volgee4 was bringing info in the prior thread. I don't really consider this "info" per se, rather an explanation of how this process usually plays out in the real world. There's lots of misunderstanding about the nature of a MOU as opposed to a "real" contract.
 
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mkil5 said:
If we have Gruden and back out for financial reasons, I am going to be at a loss for words. If this situation were to arise, it has been nice knowing you Dave Hart.

Babyvol went on to say that the hang up is Gruden wants to bring in Raheem Morris as DC and Chad Morris in as OC, both for approximately $1.5M. The problem lies with Morris who signed a contract with a rather large buyout, $1M.

If one million is all the difference in getting Gruden vs not getting him... I don't even know... It's mind boggling to think how dumb that is.
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If the money men are willing to pay that kinda coin for a staff, they're not gonna let a million dollars mess things up.
 
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mkil5 said:
If we have Gruden and back out for financial reasons, I am going to be at a loss for words. If this situation were to arise, it has been nice knowing you Dave Hart.

Babyvol went on to say that the hang up is Gruden wants to bring in Raheem Morris as DC and Chad Morris in as OC, both for approximately $1.5M. The problem lies with Morris who signed a contract with a rather large buyout, $1M.

If one million is all the difference in getting Gruden vs not getting him... I don't even know... It's mind boggling to think how dumb that is.
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Honestly though, that $1.5 mil for each of the coordinators would be unprecedented I think, would it not?
 
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I am sorry but Gruden should not require 1.5m/yr assistants to feel confident in his ability to have success at UT. Easy to spend other people's money but if UT ends up with the highest paid staff in football I want an NC out of it.
 
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Also per babyvol TOS

Here's what i heard late last night. I'm hearing TN is talking with several candidates due to the amount of money it's going to cost to bring in Gruden. TN wants to know who the other candidates plan to bring on staff with them if they come. Then they will weigh out which direction to go. The story I got was Gruden has agreed in principle to 8 years around 51 million. The hang up is how much it would cost to bring in the assistants he wants. As everyone has heard he likes Raheem Morris for DC. He wants Chad Morris as OC. The cost would be 1.5 million for each. Here's a big hang up....supposedly Morris just signed a deal with Clemson that has a steep penalty to buyout. Would cost us another couple of million. We might go back to Gruden and try to get him to go with someone else or he might be adamant....no idea. Supposedly Gruden and he are tight. Again....i just bring what I hear so take it or leave it.
 
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SteelerVol said:
If 51mil + 1.5mil + 1.5mil is worth it, then

51mil + 1.5mil + 1.5mil + 2mil is also worth it.
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I think the 1.5 million contracts are per year. The staff salary will be higher than this. More like 70 or 80 million most likely for 5-7 years.
 
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I have blood in the AD's office. A family member that has gone so tight lipped that it is amazing.

My trail went silent after the 98 team got together celebrating Fulmer's induction into the college football hall of fame.

Hart is well connected and is conducting this search like the C-A would hunt for a bad guy.

I remain very confident.
 
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LurtzVol109 said:
Bayern Munich is my favorite club team. Pretty much has half the international team on it, and Germany is my favorie national team
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So you are an American who supports another country's team. And you intend to join the service?

So do you root for the Chinese in the Olympics?

Don't forget that those are our guys out there playing for the red white and blue. If you don't support them gtfo.

Just the way it is.
 
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mkil5 said:
If we have Gruden and back out for financial reasons, I am going to be at a loss for words. If this situation were to arise, it has been nice knowing you Dave Hart.

Babyvol went on to say that the hang up is Gruden wants to bring in Raheem Morris as DC and Chad Morris in as OC, both for approximately $1.5M. The problem lies with Morris who signed a contract with a rather large buyout, $1M.

If one million is all the difference in getting Gruden vs not getting him... I don't even know... It's mind boggling to think how dumb that is.
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I am likely ignorant about this, but why pay that amount for Chad Morris when Gruden will call plays? Would Gruden not call plays? I would think Jeremy Bates or Jay Graham as OC with Gruden calling plays would be a good option
 
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UTVolinExile said:
Volgee4 was bringing info in the prior thread. I don't really consider this "info" per se, rather an explanation of how this process usually plays out in the real world. There's lots of misunderstanding about the nature of a MOU as opposed to a "real" contract.
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Sure. Although all of it was informative to me.
 
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f77f00 said:
I am sorry but Gruden should not require 1.5m/yr assistants to feel confident in his ability to have success at UT. Easy to spend other people's money but if UT ends up with the highest paid staff in football I want an NC out of it.
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If I had the money to spend (as bad as we've been), I'd spend it. Of course, I don't, so I'm not going to tell those who do how they should spend their money. But you're right, at that price, it had better return at least one national title (preferably at least two).
 
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OrangeInKy said:
I am likely ignorant about this, but why pay that amount for Chad Morris when Gruden will call plays? Would Gruden not call plays? I would think Jeremy Bates or Jay Graham as OC with Gruden calling plays would be a good option
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This is just my gut feeling, but I think the money amount he posted is wrong.
 
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BJWeeks said:
Lets get it done AD. Dont screw it up. I don't care if Gruden wanted 10 Million make it happen.
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I agree at this point. UT football is dead in the water without a big hire. We are losing national respect with each and every passing year. Kids coming out of high school don't even remember us being any good. I believe that a Gruden hire could put us in the elite program category for years to come. It could do for us what Spurrier did for Florida football...before anyone gets mad NO I don't mean we are Florida before him because they had no tradition of anything in football. I just mean it has the potential to change who we are for decades long after Gruden has left.
 
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VolMaster14 said:
If the money men are willing to pay that kinda coin for a staff, they're not gonna let a million dollars mess things up.
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I totally agree and would hope that this is the case.

We have been hearing that it would take a major screw up for it to not happen. This would be it.

To reiterate, I do agree with you.
 
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